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> On 30 Nov 2023, at 22:36, Enellis via skim-app-develop <ski...@li...> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have noticed that the PDF view is empty for a short time during reloading while I was using the automatic reload function. After some research I found out that this is due to an artificially created delay in PDFKit. With the following change by directly using the undocumented method [PDFView setDocument:waitDuration:], which is called internally when using [PDFView setDocument:], the PDF view reloads the document almost immediately. (It works like a charm used alongside Typst's incremental pdf builds created instantly while typing.)
> 
> Index: SKPDFView.m
> ===================================================================
> --- SKPDFView.m (Revision 13817)
> +++ SKPDFView.m (Arbeitskopie)
> @@ -607,7 +607,7 @@
>     if ([self document])
>         [self unregisterForDocumentNotifications];
> 
> -    [super setDocument:document];
> +    [super performSelector:@selector(setDocument:waitDuration:) withObject:document withObject:0];
> 
>     if (document)
>         [self registerForDocumentNotifications];
> 
> I don't know whether this is suitable for production, but I wanted to let you know.
> 
> Cheers,
> Enellis



That’s not a good idea. That method its not documented, so we don’t know how it works, what side effects it has, and whether it exists in the first place. It may work for you. It may work now. But in the next OS version? You have no idea, and you cannot do. We sometimes do use private methods, but it is to work around bugs in the system, or to do things that are otherwise impossible. It is not a good idea to use it to make things a little bit nicer.Because usually, it will break you up and lead to a serious bug in the future. Speaking from experience.

Christiaan

Hi,

I have noticed that the PDF view is empty for a short time during reloading while I was using the automatic reload function. After some research I found out that this is due to an artificially created delay in PDFKit. With the following change by directly using the undocumented method [PDFView setDocument:waitDuration:], which is called internally when using [PDFView setDocument:], the PDF view reloads the document almost immediately. (It works like a charm used alongside Typst's incremental pdf builds created instantly while typing.)

Index: SKPDFView.m
===================================================================
--- SKPDFView.m (Revision 13817)
+++ SKPDFView.m (Arbeitskopie)
@@ -607,7 +607,7 @@
     if ([self document])
         [self unregisterForDocumentNotifications];

-    [super setDocument:document];
+    [super performSelector:@selector(setDocument:waitDuration:) withObject:document withObject:0];

     if (document)
         [self registerForDocumentNotifications];

I don't know whether this is suitable for production, but I wanted to let you know.

Cheers,
Enellis

> On 9 Oct 2021, at 01:10, slbtty <she...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> Hi, dear skim authors
> 
> I want to know where the “remember last page” are stored for each PDF.
> 
> I know the notes are stored in the extended attributes, but it doesn't
> seem to store the last page when I close a PDF file.
> 
> When I use my Linux box, I have a script to read “last page opened”
> from my PDF reader, and thus I can get an automatic reading tracker,
> and I want to do the same on Mac.
> 
> Is it stored in a directory? Or need special method to extract from
> extended attributes?
> 
> Thanks,
> slbtty



With the bookmarks preferences.

Christiaan

Hi, dear skim authors

I want to know where the “remember last page” are stored for each PDF.

I know the notes are stored in the extended attributes, but it doesn't
seem to store the last page when I close a PDF file.

When I use my Linux box, I have a script to read “last page opened”
from my PDF reader, and thus I can get an automatic reading tracker,
and I want to do the same on Mac.

Is it stored in a directory? Or need special method to extract from
extended attributes?

Thanks,
slbtty

Yes it is. But check the licence agreement, it mentions the conditions.

Christiaan

Is it okay that I could use the Skim core to another app?


Sent from my iPhone

Here are the output and the test code, anything else, please tell me freely.

*2016-09-29 15:17:09.868360 SkimText[17818:2051126] /Rect*

*Program ended with exit code: 0*

*---------------------------------------------------------------------------------*

#import <Foundation/Foundation.h>

#import <Quartz/Quartz.h>

int main(int argc, const char * argv[]) {

    @autoreleasepool {

        // insert code here...

        NSLog(@"%@", kPDFAnnotationKey_Rect);

    }

    return 0;

}

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...>
wrote:

> No, it’s not in the source code. they’re only defined on Sierra, so I
> cannot use them. But I need the values to use them instead to make some
> fixes for Sierra. So I was asking if you could make a simple test project
> to figure them out. For instance, a trivial app that links to the Quartz
> framework, and in the application delegate imports PDFKit and adds a line
> like
>
> NSLog(@“%@“, kPDFAnnotationKey_Rect);
>
> Running that should give the value in the console.
>
> Christiaan
>
> On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:46, Shouwei Li <ca...@gm...> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I checked out the reversion 9134, but did not find some constants like
> kPDFAnnotationKey_Rect.
>
> Actually, I am not familiar with the source code of  skim. If possible,
> would you please tell me what should I do in more detail, I will follow
> your instruction and send you back the output. Is that ok?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...>
> wrote:
>
>> Could you have a look at this? Can you check this with the current source?
>>
>> Also, could you figure out in a simple test project what the actual value
>> of constants like kPDFAnnotationKey_Rect is? Is it something like “/Rect”
>> or “Rect”?
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Christiaan
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 14:58, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>> There’s in particular bug # 1109.
>>
>> Christiaan
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 14:55, Shouwei Li <ca...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>> Is there a ticket to trace this issue, or some explanation in detail?
>>
>> I can try but can not promise to find out the root cause. If you want me
>> to test something, that's no problem for sure.
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 13:55, Shouwei Li <ca...@gm...> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have Sierra environment, what could I do to help you?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 10:51 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there anyone here who has Sierra, and can help fix problems there It
>>>> seems PDFKit is really making a mess of thing there. And as I don’t have
>>>> Sierra (and can’t have it), I have no way of figuring out the problems.
>>>>
>>>> Christiaan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Best Regards!
>>> Sjouwen Li
>>>
>>>
>>> You you know a bit about objective c development?
>>>
>>> I don’t really know what’s going on, that’s the problem. It seems in
>>> particular that annotations don’t work properly anymore, in several ways.
>>> And I have no idea why and exactly what. But I cannot test myself, and
>>> that’s the only way to figure out what Apple broke.
>>>
>>> Christiaan
>>>
>>> --
>> Best Regards!
>> Shouwei Li
>>
>>
>>
> --
> Best Regards!
> Shouwei Li
>
>
>
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Best Regards!
Shouwei Li

No, it’s not in the source code. they’re only defined on Sierra, so I cannot use them. But I need the values to use them instead to make some fixes for Sierra. So I was asking if you could make a simple test project to figure them out. For instance, a trivial app that links to the Quartz framework, and in the application delegate imports PDFKit and adds a line like

NSLog(@“%@“, kPDFAnnotationKey_Rect);

Running that should give the value in the console.

Christiaan

> On Sep 29, 2016, at 11:46, Shouwei Li <ca...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I checked out the reversion 9134, but did not find some constants like kPDFAnnotationKey_Rect.
> 
> Actually, I am not familiar with the source code of  skim. If possible, would you please tell me what should I do in more detail, I will follow your instruction and send you back the output. Is that ok?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm... <mailto:cmh...@gm...>> wrote:
> Could you have a look at this? Can you check this with the current source?
> 
> Also, could you figure out in a simple test project what the actual value of constants like kPDFAnnotationKey_Rect is? Is it something like “/Rect” or “Rect”?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> Christiaan
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 14:58, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm... <mailto:cmh...@gm...>> wrote:
>> 
>> There’s in particular bug # 1109.
>> 
>> Christiaan
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 14:55, Shouwei Li <ca...@gm... <mailto:ca...@gm...>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is there a ticket to trace this issue, or some explanation in detail?
>>> 
>>> I can try but can not promise to find out the root cause. If you want me to test something, that's no problem for sure.  
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm... <mailto:cmh...@gm...>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 13:55, Shouwei Li <ca...@gm... <mailto:ca...@gm...>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I have Sierra environment, what could I do to help you?
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 10:51 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm... <mailto:cmh...@gm...>> wrote:
>>>> Is there anyone here who has Sierra, and can help fix problems there It seems PDFKit is really making a mess of thing there. And as I don’t have Sierra (and can’t have it), I have no way of figuring out the problems.
>>>> 
>>>> Christiaan
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> Best Regards!
>>>> Sjouwen Li
>>> 
>>> You you know a bit about objective c development? 
>>> 
>>> I don’t really know what’s going on, that’s the problem. It seems in particular that annotations don’t work properly anymore, in several ways. And I have no idea why and exactly what. But I cannot test myself, and that’s the only way to figure out what Apple broke.
>>> 
>>> Christiaan
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Best Regards!
>>> Shouwei Li
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best Regards!
> Shouwei Li

Hi,

I checked out the reversion 9134, but did not find some constants like
kPDFAnnotationKey_Rect.

Actually, I am not familiar with the source code of  skim. If possible,
would you please tell me what should I do in more detail, I will follow
your instruction and send you back the output. Is that ok?

Thanks!


On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...>
wrote:

> Could you have a look at this? Can you check this with the current source?
>
> Also, could you figure out in a simple test project what the actual value
> of constants like kPDFAnnotationKey_Rect is? Is it something like “/Rect”
> or “Rect”?
>
> thanks,
>
> Christiaan
>
> On Sep 23, 2016, at 14:58, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...> wrote:
>
> There’s in particular bug # 1109.
>
> Christiaan
>
> On Sep 23, 2016, at 14:55, Shouwei Li <ca...@gm...> wrote:
>
> Is there a ticket to trace this issue, or some explanation in detail?
>
> I can try but can not promise to find out the root cause. If you want me
> to test something, that's no problem for sure.
>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 13:55, Shouwei Li <ca...@gm...> wrote:
>>
>> I have Sierra environment, what could I do to help you?
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 10:51 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there anyone here who has Sierra, and can help fix problems there It
>>> seems PDFKit is really making a mess of thing there. And as I don’t have
>>> Sierra (and can’t have it), I have no way of figuring out the problems.
>>>
>>> Christiaan
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Best Regards!
>> Sjouwen Li
>>
>>
>> You you know a bit about objective c development?
>>
>> I don’t really know what’s going on, that’s the problem. It seems in
>> particular that annotations don’t work properly anymore, in several ways.
>> And I have no idea why and exactly what. But I cannot test myself, and
>> that’s the only way to figure out what Apple broke.
>>
>> Christiaan
>>
>> --
> Best Regards!
> Shouwei Li
>
>
>
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>
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>


-- 
Best Regards!
Shouwei Li

Could you have a look at this? Can you check this with the current source?

Also, could you figure out in a simple test project what the actual value of constants like kPDFAnnotationKey_Rect is? Is it something like “/Rect” or “Rect”?

thanks,

Christiaan

> On Sep 23, 2016, at 14:58, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> There’s in particular bug # 1109.
> 
> Christiaan
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 14:55, Shouwei Li <ca...@gm... <mailto:ca...@gm...>> wrote:
>> 
>> Is there a ticket to trace this issue, or some explanation in detail?
>> 
>> I can try but can not promise to find out the root cause. If you want me to test something, that's no problem for sure.  
>> 
>> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm... <mailto:cmh...@gm...>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 13:55, Shouwei Li <ca...@gm... <mailto:ca...@gm...>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have Sierra environment, what could I do to help you?
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 10:51 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm... <mailto:cmh...@gm...>> wrote:
>>> Is there anyone here who has Sierra, and can help fix problems there It seems PDFKit is really making a mess of thing there. And as I don’t have Sierra (and can’t have it), I have no way of figuring out the problems.
>>> 
>>> Christiaan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Best Regards!
>>> Sjouwen Li
>> 
>> You you know a bit about objective c development? 
>> 
>> I don’t really know what’s going on, that’s the problem. It seems in particular that annotations don’t work properly anymore, in several ways. And I have no idea why and exactly what. But I cannot test myself, and that’s the only way to figure out what Apple broke.
>> 
>> Christiaan
>> 
>> -- 
>> Best Regards!
>> Shouwei Li

There’s in particular bug # 1109.

Christiaan

> On Sep 23, 2016, at 14:55, Shouwei Li <ca...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> Is there a ticket to trace this issue, or some explanation in detail?
> 
> I can try but can not promise to find out the root cause. If you want me to test something, that's no problem for sure. 
> 
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm... <mailto:cmh...@gm...>> wrote:
> 
>> On Sep 23, 2016, at 13:55, Shouwei Li <ca...@gm... <mailto:ca...@gm...>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have Sierra environment, what could I do to help you?
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 10:51 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm... <mailto:cmh...@gm...>> wrote:
>> Is there anyone here who has Sierra, and can help fix problems there It seems PDFKit is really making a mess of thing there. And as I don’t have Sierra (and can’t have it), I have no way of figuring out the problems.
>> 
>> Christiaan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Best Regards!
>> Sjouwen Li
> 
> You you know a bit about objective c development? 
> 
> I don’t really know what’s going on, that’s the problem. It seems in particular that annotations don’t work properly anymore, in several ways. And I have no idea why and exactly what. But I cannot test myself, and that’s the only way to figure out what Apple broke.
> 
> Christiaan
> 
> 
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Christiaan

Is there a ticket to trace this issue, or some explanation in detail?

I can try but can not promise to find out the root cause. If you want me to
test something, that's no problem for sure.

On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...>
wrote:

>
> On Sep 23, 2016, at 13:55, Shouwei Li <ca...@gm...> wrote:
>
> I have Sierra environment, what could I do to help you?
>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 10:51 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...>
> wrote:
>
>> Is there anyone here who has Sierra, and can help fix problems there It
>> seems PDFKit is really making a mess of thing there. And as I don’t have
>> Sierra (and can’t have it), I have no way of figuring out the problems.
>>
>> Christiaan
>>
>>
>
> --
> Best Regards!
> Sjouwen Li
>
>
> You you know a bit about objective c development?
>
> I don’t really know what’s going on, that’s the problem. It seems in
> particular that annotations don’t work properly anymore, in several ways.
> And I have no idea why and exactly what. But I cannot test myself, and
> that’s the only way to figure out what Apple broke.
>
> Christiaan
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> skim-app-develop mailing list
> ski...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-develop
>
>


-- 
Best Regards!
Shouwei Li

> On Sep 23, 2016, at 13:55, Shouwei Li <ca...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> I have Sierra environment, what could I do to help you?
> 
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 10:51 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm... <mailto:cmh...@gm...>> wrote:
> Is there anyone here who has Sierra, and can help fix problems there It seems PDFKit is really making a mess of thing there. And as I don’t have Sierra (and can’t have it), I have no way of figuring out the problems.
> 
> Christiaan
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Best Regards!
> Sjouwen Li

You you know a bit about objective c development? 

I don’t really know what’s going on, that’s the problem. It seems in particular that annotations don’t work properly anymore, in several ways. And I have no idea why and exactly what. But I cannot test myself, and that’s the only way to figure out what Apple broke.

Christiaan

I have Sierra environment, what could I do to help you?

On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 10:51 PM, Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...>
wrote:

> Is there anyone here who has Sierra, and can help fix problems there It
> seems PDFKit is really making a mess of thing there. And as I don’t have
> Sierra (and can’t have it), I have no way of figuring out the problems.
>
> Christiaan
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> skim-app-develop mailing list
> ski...@li...
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/skim-app-develop
>
>


-- 
Best Regards!
Shouwei Li

Is there anyone here who has Sierra, and can help fix problems there It seems PDFKit is really making a mess of thing there. And as I don’t have Sierra (and can’t have it), I have no way of figuring out the problems.

Christiaan

> On Nov 10, 2015, at 12:06, Shouwei Li <ca...@gm...> wrote:
> 
> Hi Guys,
> 
> I am a newbie who wants to extended some features for Skim, I already checkout the source code from branch, but I did not find a guide about how to build the dev environment or how to compile the source code on OSX(10.11).
> Would you please kindly offer me some reference?
> 
> Thank you! 
> 
> -- 
> Best Regards!
> Shouwei Li

Check out the Wiki.

Christiaan

Hi Guys,

I am a newbie who wants to extended some features for Skim, I already
checkout the source code from branch, but I did not find a guide about how
to build the dev environment or how to compile the source code on
OSX(10.11).
Would you please kindly offer me some reference?

Thank you!

-- 
Best Regards!
Shouwei Li

> Am 31.03.2015 um 14:39 schrieb Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...>:
> 
> 
> On Mar 31, 2015, at 14:20, Jan Weiß wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> Am 31.03.2015 um 12:10 schrieb Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...>:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2015, at 11:51, Jan Weiß wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This is the text of the mail which was censored by the list software:
>>>>> I just improved the FindBar layout a little bit. If this is to be improved further, we could add custom arrows with an aspect ratio that is more square. Like those in the NSTextFinder find bar (as used in TextEdit).
>>>> 
>>>> Don’t you have admin access to the mailing list? Someone should have…
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Jan
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Unfortunately I don't have admin access to this list. If the change is tweaking of the find bar, perhaps you can say what you did exactly and I can apply it. We probably would not have accepted these particular changes anyway, because, at least for now, I'd like to keep the old xib  format for backward flexibility. Also, the find bar *is* layed out according to the HIG guides.
>> Yes. But the margins are too tight. You could selectively add my geometry tweaks.
>> 
> 
> I don't think they are. They are actually the same as in some other (Apple) apps. And I don't think it's a good idea to make them wider.
I totally agree. But the vertical margins are too tight.

>> Who does have admin access? Perhaps SF can help, if it got lost or the admin is not available anymore.
>> 
> 
> Probably Mike McCracken is the admin, I think he created the list.
Do you have a way of contacting him? This is a trivial matter now, but it might become important for contributors at some point. Let’s better resolve that now. :)

Jan

> Christiaan
> 
>>> Christiaan
>>> 
>>>>> Am 31.03.2015 um 11:06 schrieb Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 31, 2015, at 2:20, Jan Weiß wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Am 30.03.2015 um 14:01 schrieb ski...@li...:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well, that means I did not see it. Please discuss what you would like to change. See if you can send it in a smaller mail, perhaps in parts.
>>>>>> I would love to, but these are patches for xib/nib files and they are huge without me being able to change that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jan
>>>>> 
>>>>> What kind of changes are they?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Christiaan
> 
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On Mar 31, 2015, at 14:20, Jan Weiß wrote:

> 
>> Am 31.03.2015 um 12:10 schrieb Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...>:
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 31, 2015, at 11:51, Jan Weiß wrote:
>> 
>>> This is the text of the mail which was censored by the list software:
>>>> I just improved the FindBar layout a little bit. If this is to be improved further, we could add custom arrows with an aspect ratio that is more square. Like those in the NSTextFinder find bar (as used in TextEdit).
>>> 
>>> Don’t you have admin access to the mailing list? Someone should have…
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Jan
>>> 
>> 
>> Unfortunately I don't have admin access to this list. If the change is tweaking of the find bar, perhaps you can say what you did exactly and I can apply it. We probably would not have accepted these particular changes anyway, because, at least for now, I'd like to keep the old xib  format for backward flexibility. Also, the find bar *is* layed out according to the HIG guides.
> Yes. But the margins are too tight. You could selectively add my geometry tweaks.
> 

I don't think they are. They are actually the same as in some other (Apple) apps. And I don't think it's a good idea to make them wider.

> Who does have admin access? Perhaps SF can help, if it got lost or the admin is not available anymore.
> 

Probably Mike McCracken is the admin, I think he created the list.

Christiaan

>> Christiaan
>> 
>>>> Am 31.03.2015 um 11:06 schrieb Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...>:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Mar 31, 2015, at 2:20, Jan Weiß wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 30.03.2015 um 14:01 schrieb ski...@li...:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, that means I did not see it. Please discuss what you would like to change. See if you can send it in a smaller mail, perhaps in parts.
>>>>> I would love to, but these are patches for xib/nib files and they are huge without me being able to change that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jan
>>>> 
>>>> What kind of changes are they?
>>>> 
>>>> Christiaan

> Am 31.03.2015 um 12:10 schrieb Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...>:
> 
> 
> On Mar 31, 2015, at 11:51, Jan Weiß wrote:
> 
>> This is the text of the mail which was censored by the list software:
>>> I just improved the FindBar layout a little bit. If this is to be improved further, we could add custom arrows with an aspect ratio that is more square. Like those in the NSTextFinder find bar (as used in TextEdit).
>> 
>> Don’t you have admin access to the mailing list? Someone should have…
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Jan
>> 
> 
> Unfortunately I don't have admin access to this list. If the change is tweaking of the find bar, perhaps you can say what you did exactly and I can apply it. We probably would not have accepted these particular changes anyway, because, at least for now, I'd like to keep the old xib  format for backward flexibility. Also, the find bar *is* layed out according to the HIG guides.
Yes. But the margins are too tight. You could selectively add my geometry tweaks.

Who does have admin access? Perhaps SF can help, if it got lost or the admin is not available anymore.

> Christiaan
> 
>>> Am 31.03.2015 um 11:06 schrieb Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...>:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2015, at 2:20, Jan Weiß wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Am 30.03.2015 um 14:01 schrieb ski...@li...:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Well, that means I did not see it. Please discuss what you would like to change. See if you can send it in a smaller mail, perhaps in parts.
>>>> I would love to, but these are patches for xib/nib files and they are huge without me being able to change that.
>>>> 
>>>> Jan
>>> 
>>> What kind of changes are they?
>>> 
>>> Christiaan
>>> 
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On Mar 31, 2015, at 11:51, Jan Weiß wrote:

> This is the text of the mail which was censored by the list software:
>> I just improved the FindBar layout a little bit. If this is to be improved further, we could add custom arrows with an aspect ratio that is more square. Like those in the NSTextFinder find bar (as used in TextEdit).
> 
> Don’t you have admin access to the mailing list? Someone should have…
> 
> Cheers,
> Jan
> 

Unfortunately I don't have admin access to this list. If the change is tweaking of the find bar, perhaps you can say what you did exactly and I can apply it. We probably would not have accepted these particular changes anyway, because, at least for now, I'd like to keep the old xib  format for backward flexibility. Also, the find bar *is* layed out according to the HIG guides.

Christiaan

>> Am 31.03.2015 um 11:06 schrieb Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...>:
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 31, 2015, at 2:20, Jan Weiß wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>>> Am 30.03.2015 um 14:01 schrieb ski...@li...:
>>>> 
>>>> Well, that means I did not see it. Please discuss what you would like to change. See if you can send it in a smaller mail, perhaps in parts.
>>> I would love to, but these are patches for xib/nib files and they are huge without me being able to change that.
>>> 
>>> Jan
>> 
>> What kind of changes are they?
>> 
>> Christiaan
>> 
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Christiaan

This is the text of the mail which was censored by the list software:
> I just improved the FindBar layout a little bit. If this is to be improved further, we could add custom arrows with an aspect ratio that is more square. Like those in the NSTextFinder find bar (as used in TextEdit).

Don’t you have admin access to the mailing list? Someone should have…

Cheers,
Jan

> Am 31.03.2015 um 11:06 schrieb Christiaan Hofman <cmh...@gm...>:
> 
> 
> On Mar 31, 2015, at 2:20, Jan Weiß wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> Am 30.03.2015 um 14:01 schrieb ski...@li...:
>>> 
>>> Well, that means I did not see it. Please discuss what you would like to change. See if you can send it in a smaller mail, perhaps in parts.
>> I would love to, but these are patches for xib/nib files and they are huge without me being able to change that.
>> 
>> Jan
> 
> What kind of changes are they?
> 
> Christiaan
> 
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On Mar 31, 2015, at 2:20, Jan Weiß wrote:

> 
>> Am 30.03.2015 um 14:01 schrieb ski...@li...:
>> 
>> Well, that means I did not see it. Please discuss what you would like to change. See if you can send it in a smaller mail, perhaps in parts.
> I would love to, but these are patches for xib/nib files and they are huge without me being able to change that.
> 
> Jan


What kind of changes are they?

Christiaan

> Am 30.03.2015 um 14:01 schrieb ski...@li...:
> 
> Well, that means I did not see it. Please discuss what you would like to change. See if you can send it in a smaller mail, perhaps in parts.
I would love to, but these are patches for xib/nib files and they are huge without me being able to change that.

Jan

On Mar 29, 2015, at 18:11, Jan Weiß wrote:

> 
>> Am 29.03.2015 um 14:00 schrieb ski...@li...:
>> 
>> What patches?
>> 
>> Christiaan
> 
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Well, that means I did not see it. Please discuss what you would like to change. See if you can send it in a smaller mail, perhaps in parts.

Christiaan