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From: Marek V. <mvo...@ce...> - 2001-10-30 13:16:37
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Nazdarek vsichni,
prave doslo k updatu stranky o projektech. Massiv byl vypsan, taky tam
pisou neco o te skolni projektove schuzi.
-- Markoid
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From: Stepan V. <sv...@vo...> - 2001-10-23 20:53:23
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On Monday 22 October 2001 22:51, Marek Vondrak wrote: > omlouvam se vsem, kteri se pokouseli prelozit priklady, nebot v nich > byla chyba. Tady posilam opravu. Doufam, ze se stihnete na to > mrknout, protoze by bylo dobre, kdyby se v patek mohla uskutecnit > dalsi schuzka, kde by se projednaly pripominky k tomuto a probraly > dalsi zasadni veci (jako, zda pouzijeme STL nebo ne) tak, aby se > mohlo jiz zacit neco opravdu psat. > Taky bych rad, kdyby nekdo (siPAQ) zkusil ty priklady prelozit pod > GCC, zda to vubec prechrousta (watcom, msvc, borlandc o.k.). Zatim jsem to moc nezkoumal. Prelozit to jde, jenom misto __int64 se musi pouzit long long (gcc 2.95; gcc 3.0 to snad uz umi, je-li to standard). Vyhodi to ale spoustu warningu, vsechny na jedno brdo - varovani ohledne toho, jake pretypovani pouzil (kdyz tam je vice moznosti). Ty spousty pretypovavacich operatoru se mi nelibily na prvni pohled, imho by se vubec nemely pouzivat, zvlaste ne v kombinaci s konstruktory a operator=, ktere umeji delat konverzi "z". Ja bych teda radsi psal 'while (first.is_valid())' nebo neco takoveho, nez potom cumel kudyma to vlastne pretypovalo. Jeste to ale musim hloubeji prozkoumat. -- Stoupa |
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From: Marek V. <MVO...@Ba...> - 2001-10-22 19:51:54
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From: Marek V. <MVO...@Ba...> - 2001-10-22 19:49:46
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Nazdarek,
omlouvam se vsem, kteri se pokouseli prelozit priklady, nebot v nich
byla chyba. Tady posilam opravu. Doufam, ze se stihnete na to
mrknout, protoze by bylo dobre, kdyby se v patek mohla uskutecnit
dalsi schuzka, kde by se projednaly pripominky k tomuto a probraly
dalsi zasadni veci (jako, zda pouzijeme STL nebo ne) tak, aby se
mohlo jiz zacit neco opravdu psat.
Taky bych rad, kdyby nekdo (siPAQ) zkusil ty priklady prelozit pod
GCC, zda to vubec prechrousta (watcom, msvc, borlandc o.k.).
-- Markoid
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From: Marek V. <MVO...@mi...> - 2001-10-22 10:17:01
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Cau,
tady posilam navrh, jak by se mohlo programovat v nasem
objektovem modelu. Prostudujte zejmena demo.cpp, kde je videt, priklad
na implementaci spojoveho seznamu ve skriptu. Objekty pouzivaji
vyhradne specialni atributy (properties), ktere tak mohou byt
systemem replikovany, podobne i pointery na jine objekty (napr.
pointer na dalsi polozku v seznamu) je automaticky
replikovana property, kterou lze navic normalne dereferencovat jako
obycejny pointer - nemusi se tedy rozlisovat nativni pointer a id
objektu, resit veci jako ted je objekt predavan a tudiz musi
zapomenout vsechny fyzicke pointery a prevest si je na id, atd.
Zatim jsem se nezajimal o to, jak bude vypadat system pro
asynchronni posilani zprav, tohle jenom ukazuje, jak s objektem
pracovat (tj. cist jeho atributy a primo volat jeho metody), je-li
umisten lokalne.
Vidim to tak, ze asynchronni zpravy by mohly byt posilany jako
specialni objekt, ktery je predavan a ktery ma spec. property typu
"variant", do kterych lze ulozit libovolnou primitive property
(nemuselo by se delat if ((char *) lParam == "ahoj") ...). Dale pak
spec. property, do ktere volany ulozi vysledek operace a preda objekt
zpatky volajicimu, ktery se tak dozvi o vysledku.
Napiste kdyztak vase poznamky a vase navrhy, jak by to mohlo
vypadat jinak (napr. Systole by mohl oprasit svuj stary navrh a poslat
ho znovu).
-- Markoid
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From: Petr T. <pto...@ss...> - 2001-10-19 10:15:13
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finalni verse specifikace |
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From: Stepan V. <sv...@vo...> - 2001-10-16 10:47:08
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Nazdarek, Posilam opravdu zanedbatelne zmeny vcerejsi specifikace. Nic duleziteho, neco mozna k horsimu, spoustu hruz jsem patrne prehledl. Ale todle jsem vytisknul pro Tumu. Posilam jak diff tak plnou verzi (ktere se v mem CVS rika 1.5). Poznamky co by mozna stalo za zmenu (s klesajici dulezitosti): -Opravit pripadne dalsi preklepy, hrubky a podivne formulace. Posilejte navrhy na zmeny do massiv-crap. Nejlepe dneska. Pak uz asi bude pozde. -Vpasovat zminku o modularnosti serveru a klientu a o updatech modulu. -Nejak to zkratit. -Demohra: zmenil jsem ty zavorky (fyziklani cast apod.), protoze se vztahovaly k vrstvam, o kterych tam ted nic neni. Ale nevim, jestli je to takhle lepsi. -Zmenit vyraz "viditelnosti a slysitelnosti" na neco ve stylu "data (objekty) bezpodminecne nutna pro prezentaci"? Asi neni nutne. Ale nic z toho myslim neni zas tak hrozive. -- Stepan |
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From: Petr T. <pto...@ss...> - 2001-10-16 08:56:21
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Opraven jeden preklep,
u zalohovani nahrazeno slovo"skript" ("skript s tim musi pocitat") slovem
"system" (tezko rict estli je to dobre, ale nic lepsiho me nenapadlo...),
a rozepsan prvni vyskyt zkratky RPG ze to je Role-Playing Game.
Petr
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From: Petr T. <pto...@ss...> - 2001-10-15 20:20:52
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Samozrejme ste si nevsimli chyby v puvodni adrese, takze tady je to znova. Petr |
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From: Stepan V. <sv...@vo...> - 2001-10-15 10:03:22
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Nazdar dobri lide Posilam par mych poznamek ke specifikaci a pripominkam Tumy/Markoida. Sorry ze je to tak pozde. Asi to prinesu i vytistene. Je to v iso8859-2, snad s tim nebudete mit problemy. Mozna to outlook prevede rovnou sam, nekdy dela magicke divy. Jinak je pry dobre natahnout to do ie, tam zmenit encoding a pak save-as [to nevim jestli funguje] nebo copy-paste. Pripadne jednoducha utilitka, ktera tech sest prohozeni znaku provede. Ale to je na windows asi moc. -- Stepan |
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From: Stepan V. <st...@po...> - 2001-10-01 17:19:18
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Dobry podvecer, Konecne posilame tu specifikaci. Radi bychom se nekdy sesli a prodiskutovali pripadne zmeny pred predanim komisi. -- Stepan Vondrak |