Re: [LogiLogi-list] Selected logi and small color-tweak

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:51 AM, Wybo Wiersma <wy...@lo...> wrote:
>>
>> = text introduction, very important, with links to help, login, create
>> account, etc.
>
> Agree, I suggest adding a link to the LogiLogi logi to this too.

Well, this could actually be a logi with it's title, and it could be
the most voted contender in its kind in the general peergroup... maybe
even different ones depending on the peergroup you are navigating?
anyway there will only be one option now, but its a nice thing to be
THAT open, even allow the new users to give it a try... proof of
concept. :)

>
>> = Logis Tagcloud
>> tabs: primary, secondary, users home, peergroups home
>> (I know there is no primary and secondary, but still, there is :)
>
> Hm, I think we should not show differences between primary and
> secondary tags... They're just tags now.
>
Ok, maybe its better yes... let's get trouble out of the way...

> For users and peergroups a tag-cloud might be less usefull. Users
> because there can only be one user for each name, so no differences in
> size for the tags, and for peergroups because there will be not enough
> of them at first to make a decent cloud...
Ok, but I don't like the all mixed logis with Homes and users names...
what can we do about this? that's why I propose separation... maybe
the users tab is not a tagcloud, maybe just a list in order of
creation.

>
>> = Recent changes
>> tabs: logis, comments, links, remarks
>
> Hm, dunno about tabs here too. These are things one could better show
> side by side if they are relevant... But some might be behind tabs...
>
> (added maybe here votes too)

Good to have votes too... I think is good if we group things in
tabs... maybe some info should be side by side too, we should decide

>
>> = New
>> tabs: users, peergroups, usersgroups
>
> Same here, might want to show them at the same time...
>

I really think we should not show so much data anywher, even in the
home. People gets lost with so much data.

Think of the 2-3 most important things, show them, and the rest in
tabs. Thats what I think the best.

>> Please take this thoughts as very rough brainstorming
>>
>> About the current design, things seem to be very possible and almost
>> done all difficult parts as rounded's and logi together to the
>> contenders list... Will copy to this computer and send when working
>> right.
>
> 'k. Still I think we need to use at least 1 transparent png, as the
> connection between the contenders and selected logi will otherwise
> overlap with the other contenders... but that's no problem imho, as
> both IE 7 and FF 2+ support them...

I don't understand well what's your point here. I've already did it
last night! :) it works with the same logi box, in the contenders
form, and modified so it negative margin brings it to the left and
overlaps with the logi... it works and resizes very nicely in all
browsers, so, this is task done.

>
> What's your thoughts on browser support ? I personally still think we
> should be minimalistic on this to keep things maintainable. Especially
> I think we should not sacrifice beauty or funcionality to browsers
> that less than 5% of the people use...
>
yes, that's fine, but the 5% will depend on which part of the world
you count, but still, for LL central we should take international
stats. Then, I also see that with the current approach we will have
much less problems as the html is considered crosbrowsing in mind from
the beginning... I still have to test it on IE6, but everything is
going so smood and not much hacks needed... still have to do this,
test on IE6.

>
> PS: Shall I update the other views (browsing, search) of the UI-svg
> too with the new coloring and improvements ? So you can show it at the
> muniato meeting ?

ok, if you are willing to do it is great. I'll email it before the
meeting so they can see them.

not much left, got to work, and I'll be having some interesting
reunions talking about this and thinking on why they should use
logilogi. They are all positive to use a wiki right now and then move
to logilogi. We really should focus on making logilogi easier.

I wanted to know your opinion on making a logilogi user account
system, without openid... what do you think? this way we reduce
complexity, enter name, email, pass and you're done. We get a point
with this as it's simpler than the google accounts they need to
validate now. We could have a internal validation system, that an
admin shuld validate new accounts. Let me know how viable is to have
something like this and I'll propose it as a could-be.

Then the rest of the proces should be already more easy. I think
create a new logi should take 2 clicks from the front page.

1. click the "new logi" button.
2. taken to the edition view, add tags (blank as comming from the
homepage), add title and body, submit.

Down to work now, greetings, talk to you all later.

-- 
Bruno