Re: [LogiLogi-list] Selected logi and small color-tweak

> > Happy :)
> >
> > (also the blues are good, I am very positive about the taints of blue,
> > and now the pplz who didn't like green will like it too :)
> >
> > Where did you get the color-scheme ?
>
> It's from the latex pallet from inkscape that windoze version has,
> nite colours. We should have skinable LL soon, and then there will be
> for choice, and very light ones could be good for long readings, like
> us that are lots of time on LL :)

Nice, and indeed :)

> > Still I do agree there must be decisions made now and then, and that
> > we must move on too, but they never should be last words at which no
> > reasoned critique is possible...
>
> clearly that's not advisable, last word is same as "decisions made now
> and then"...

'k

> > (When the project gets bigger there of course can be sub-groups for
> > different domains & delegates and such, but they should always consist
> > of a few pplz with equal rights...)
> 
> totally agree.. but, we have already lot's of work in all areas...
> let's keep up the work :)

Ok (main idea here is that decisions of any importance should always
be made by at least 2 or 3 pplz...).

> > And also we should have either wizzards that take the whole screen,
> > even the space of the title-bar (looking like overboxes, but acting
> > like normal pages), or screens...
> 
> yes, that is a very good possibility... We will evolve in this aspect
> too, we should find a place for navigation trace reference or similar,
> but for now white screen and wizard is good... We'd have plenty of
> space, that would let us be creative. We should cover al aspects of

Not just creative but it also would keep the screen clean for users.

> usability to make a few clicks (or tabs) editing things. And we will
> have it.

Indeed, as few clicks as possible...

> > For eye-candy reasons we can leave the logi in it's exact place when
> > adding links for example, and replace the page around it with the
> > wizzard...
> 
> So, maybe the wizard should go at the level of the secondary tabs? I
> think it would be good. A the place of labels have a wizard steps
> navigation.

Hm. I was thinking of removing everything, also title-bar in wizzards,
and have the top-description we have now in wizzards above the logi...

And to be honest I think most wizzards only would need one screen.

(Especially as the former biggest one, the tag-editing, is now a lot
smaller without the difference between content and context tags...)

But indeed it might be an idea to have multi-screen wizzards,
especially if we can make them fast by pre-loading the coming screens
and only submit in the end via JS... but might be quite some work for
now... but in the end might be better indeed.

> Miguel, please participate on this, you can work offlinte on this too!
> I'm doing it right now whith the html, so I can't do much with svg as
> I'm not on my computer to go online, etc.

Indeed, Miguel :)

How are things with you anyway ? Like your new job ? And what exactly
do you do ? (mostly programming, adminning, etc ?)

> > Also I think - guess - we can keep many of the wizzards in relatively
> > unmodified form, except having them as non-overboxes, and some
> > coloring to make them fit with the new UI...
> 
> Yes, the already structure with a little make up..

Indeed.

> >
> > Indeed a kickass UI! Very happy with it! Good work of us all!
>
> Yes, I hope this gets more people involved back into the project too...

It will I guess. I mean the back-end is a lot faster now too, and can
sustain growth. And now with this sublime UI & usabillity growth will
definitely come :)

> > saturday. Might also do some sketches or at least lists of elements for
> > the mainpage and or edit...
>
> Yes we should, here is part of the other mail I was writing:
>
> still we have to work on the frontpage... the secondary tabs will
> certainly help, and we could also have some other sidebars with tabs
> too, or a third tabs box... we should start working on this. First
> what we want to show, then how to do it.
> 
> Just quick thoughts:
> 
> = text introduction, very important, with links to help, login, create
> account, etc.

Agree, I suggest adding a link to the LogiLogi logi to this too.

> = Logis Tagcloud
> tabs: primary, secondary, users home, peergroups home
> (I know there is no primary and secondary, but still, there is :)

Hm, I think we should not show differences between primary and
secondary tags... They're just tags now.

For users and peergroups a tag-cloud might be less usefull. Users
because there can only be one user for each name, so no differences in
size for the tags, and for peergroups because there will be not enough
of them at first to make a decent cloud...

> = Recent changes
> tabs: logis, comments, links, remarks

Hm, dunno about tabs here too. These are things one could better show
side by side if they are relevant... But some might be behind tabs...

(added maybe here votes too)

> = New
> tabs: users, peergroups, usersgroups

Same here, might want to show them at the same time...

> Please take this thoughts as very rough brainstorming
> 
> About the current design, things seem to be very possible and almost
> done all difficult parts as rounded's and logi together to the
> contenders list... Will copy to this computer and send when working
> right.

'k. Still I think we need to use at least 1 transparent png, as the
connection between the contenders and selected logi will otherwise
overlap with the other contenders... but that's no problem imho, as 
both IE 7 and FF 2+ support them...

What's your thoughts on browser support ? I personally still think we
should be minimalistic on this to keep things maintainable. Especially
I think we should not sacrifice beauty or funcionality to browsers
that less than 5% of the people use...

> On Thursday we'll have a muniato meeting, hope to have some news then.
> I show the UI to some of them and got very good feedback sofar :) :)

Great, and indeed they will love it too!

Wybo

PS: Shall I update the other views (browsing, search) of the UI-svg
too with the new coloring and improvements ? So you can show it at the
muniato meeting ?