Re: [LogiLogi-list] The Big Mail

I just came back. Was nice in York, but good to be back too :)

> Sorry I have been a little bit absent :), I will also be absent for
> the next two weeks, but I wanted to answer some of the points in the
> last conversations.

Ok, good you mailed.

> > > He couldn't use it as he does not use a web-browser as far as I've
> > > heard/experienced. He seems to use wget to fetch his web-pages. So
> > > web2.0 apps stand no chanche with him.
> 
> He eats with his hands? forks and knifes are not really
> necessaries...(I thought in others examples like one with toilet
> paper)

Indeed, it's a bit rediculous indeed, but anyway, we are not going to
make LL work with wget :)

If he wants to miss out on the web, it's sad but he's free to do so :)

> > > I agree we should rethink, but things should fit in with splitting it
> > > up into separate services.
> >
> > certainly splitting up in services is they way to go.
> 
> I your last mail you talk about services separated into different "apps".
> Lately I have been playing a little with Django and I liked a lot this approach.
> Maybe is time to migrate LL to Django? :)

No, don't think so :) Also the apps of Django are all still integrated
on the same server if I'm correct, missing most of the point of
splitting it up.

> > > > = Ratings in other peer-groups
> > >
> > > Cool idea, we currently have this in the form of 'view', 'ratings';
> > > was for now removed from the main display for simplicity. What do
> > > others think about it ? Miguel ?
> 
> :) I will always be pro getting useful information in fewer clicks

Hm, most complaints I had about LogiLogi and OgOg was that there's too
much info on the screen at the same time so pplz don't get it.

> > > > I might be able to do the video editing tomorrow to upload it...
> > > > maybe it's too late.
> > >
> > > Looking forward to it :)
> 
> also :)

? :)

> > Well, I kind of share your vision and feel the same, but others
> > suggest me this and I now understand that it is important. I don't
> > even have a degree, of almost anything, but it's important to make
> > clear that you are a professional of the web, a philosopher, a happy
> > person, whatever you feel introduces yourself. It's about logilogi,
> > but also about you, you are talking to them, why? how did this guy got
> > here?... just my first experience...
> 
> I think you did the right thingh there :)

Ok.

> > > We might do something like removing the remaining power of the earlier
> > > vote and then add the new one. Think this is possible, you can add a
> > > low priority task for it.
> 
> Maybe logging the righting in the history would be nice. something
> like highest ranking archived linked to the version.

Might be yes. But anyway shortly I was planning on making the votes
public, so the voting becomes more of a social act.

> > > Currently not, I've been thinking about adding an auto-vote by the
> > > author when posting from a peergroup.
> >
> > that could work right.
> 
> I am pro the auto vote :)

Ok, I just added a task for it.

> About all the stuff related to the overboxes, and the user experience,
> etc. I am really Bruno's side.
> I am really forward when having Manta working smooth as the way it
> goes now, making all the editing stuff as adding remarks, links,
> modify the logi, directly into the logi page, with right button
> functionalities or something that way.

We then should have some mechanism that replaces the logi-text in the
page with a linkless version when the user wants to add links.

Also we should show a help/info message somewhere when the user is
adding a link, so he knows what and why...

But if done in a clear way I am in principle for it too.

> Big part of the users complains about that or suggested me as a
> missing functionality in he small experience I had showing LL.

Ok.

> Wybo, It was really frustrating not been able to see you, I hope the
> upcoming year it will be possible (Bruno, here they count the years
> from September to September :) ).

Indeed, I hope too. And it was unhappy indeed that we missed out on
eachother.

> I am going to a marriage in "Bretagne" (north-west of France) now for
> a week , I will be recharging-batteries in the Atlantic Ocean which I
> really miss.

Ok. Will be great fun probably, so have a good time! :)

> Back home, I think I will have some time and forces to develop for LL

Ok :)

I have my brothers birthday today (sadly he's no programmer, but
nevertheless he's still ok enough :)...), and then tomorrow I will
start with removing the multi-language-functionality.

How's things going Bruno ?

greetings,

Wybo

> Miguel