Re: [LogiLogi-list] Quicky on the UI

On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 7:52 AM, Wybo Wiersma <wy...@lo...> wrote:
>> I think our current UI is not good Wybo, we should take a look from
>> outside, we are inside the project and it's hard to take perspective.
>>
>
> May indeed be something to think about, but at least estetically
> speaking I think our UI is much better than the one of wikipedia,
> moinmoin and plone. They (esp mediawiki) look so 1990's.
>
> Usabillity should be improved though, a lot, and fast.

Is there anybody in the list interested on working on the UI? I mean,
we all propose ideas, and colaborate, and mostly you Wybo work on
everything, but I was wondering if the people who made the current UI
would like to work on it or not. Andrew?

I need to get some todo's and start working. I think I'll start from a
cleanup of css, then HTML, maybe make it standars compilant... I want
to have the valid html icon, dont you? :)

>
> (on the esthetic side I don't see much diff between your new proposal
> and the current UI, and that is a good thing, but it makes me think
> about the need of a radical new UI; adding your improvements to the
> UI might be a good start; and I saw you were thinking in that
> direction too; so I'd say go ahead, but plz keep average users in
> mind, so don't get lost in stuff like making it liquid or work in
> lynx, just assume a fixed witdth and start improving usabillity with
> help-icons, renaming & grouping things and such)

Ok, let me clarify this. My proposals don't have much diff to the
current UI on purpose. We talk befor we should stick to one UI and
work on it and that's what I'm trying to do. I would like you to
understand that this is an extra work for me as this is not my
proposal, but it's what has been chossen, and as I understand the
needs for collaborative work I stick to this. If it where what I want
to do, I'd start from scratch and would probably be something
radically different. I'll be trying some different UI approach on the
project for uruguay, (let's call it Muniato). Then we will have
something to compare too, and from where to import snipets, or maybe
the entire code. This is a matter of needs. One of the request of this
project was a new UI, theme... that's what they asked several times,
and I think it could work towards the "simple" UI, and that's what I'm
planning to work at. I'll let you know how it goes.

On the other hand, I'll be working on parallel with LL trunk and will
commit changes gradually towards what you mention, improve usability,
help-icons, etc.

Also, today we will start to prepare the talk with Fefu, and I'm
exited about this, we are planning a very interactive talk, and a
different approach of what I did last time. I hope we get peoples
attention :) I'll share what we are doing to the trunk when we have
something.

Later all!

-- 
Bruno