Re: [LogiLogi-list] Presentation went well...

> Ok, we knew it and what concerns me now, is what could we do to make
> Manta more usable for Fosdem. We've already talked about some place
> where the most basic things could be explained so to get people to
> understand the basic concepts faster. This could be the colors meaning
> (requested, received, logi), the URL elements meanings (tags NOT
> folders, @=, i=, v=), and so... I mean, in a very schematic way, in a
> clearly visible area, always visible.

Would be cool to have this in place before the Fosdem, though the
prefs-profile editing/creation, and selection is still not implemented
either, and as Fosdem mostly attracts developers, we could get away
with something less self-explanatory than for Alfa's.

So we could first go for mouse-overs (but one's showing such a legenda
possibly).

Also cool to have would be a drop-down for version-selection.

> I also thought about having the logilogi-links colored all time, and
> maybe think on how to make this approach not too disruptive.

Different than blue, to make them distictive... Nice... although they
should be really unobtrusively colored, as there can be many, many
links in one document... 

A good idea!

> Also, the usability research will bring up a lot of light to this
> matter as you said, and it will bring up clarification on the way to
> approach the current usability problems.

Indeed, but the ideas you put forward here are good, and good to have 
before the usabillity research takes off.

> I've been thinking of ways of solving some of the usability problems,
> but got stuck most of the time because of my lack of knowledge about
> Manta theory background. I feel I'm currently playing a small
> technical role in Manta, where I change things as they are committed,
> as this are the priorities. As I've mentioned before, I will create my
> (personal) approach to the UI layout when I get to know better all the
> components behind Manta. Also, it would be great to have the usability
> research results.

We should get together on skype/ekiga after the weekend!

> >    way they are on purpose. I really don't like the negativistic tone
> >    of this view, but nevertheless; what if there is truth in it...?
> 
> Why don't we discuss about this at LogiLogi.org? LogiLogi-Manta?

Because it's not the best content to be the first on a site like
ours... We can better start with something less explosive...

> > Anyway Rik Peters also proposed to get the big names in the Philosophy
> > of History together (after Manta is completely stable, and the UI is
> > more usable), and to offer them a chance of expressing their vision in
> > a Logi-document. According to him this could be feasable, and if so,
> > there might be a great top-down opportunity for Manta too!
> 
> Exelente oportunity! Lot's of things comming up!

Indeed!

I was yesterday evening at the perl-mongers-meeting and in two months
I can give a presentation about Ruby on Rails and Manta there too!

I'm off to Nijmegen now!,

Wybo