Re: [LogiLogi-list] Wedding & my work on the back-end of Manta.

On 12/9/06, Wybo Wiersma <wy...@lo...> wrote:
> > Wybo,
> >
> > please take a look at http://overbits.com:3000/index_new_gui_1.html as
> > there are some improvements.
>
> Beautifull!! Amazing, it all works perfectly!
>
> > > Ok. I had a look at: http://overbits.com:3000/index_new_gui_2.html, is
> > > that the latest version you are working on ? The width of the document
> > > is ok, but the rest of it still looks a bit mangled (and the 3-column
> > > stuff also seems broken again). Probably you are just in the middle of
> > > updating it ?
> >
> > I don't know if it was me that sent you the wrong url or you got mixed
> > up, but the las one I've been working on (although not last version
> > number) is http://overbits.com:3000/index_new_gui_1.html
>
> I was exploring a bit, and ended up at 2, wrongly assuming it could be a
> newer version...
>
> >  * Colums - Working. Also, I didn't specify a width to the side
> > columns, but I'll try to go for the % aproach in my next try.
>
> These work beautifully now!
>
> Would it be possible also to automatically close the link-drop-down after
> the mouse leaves the drop-down-div ?
>

There are two possibilities:
* on_mouse_over / mouse_out
* on_click / on_click_anyware_else_outside

The easy way should be mouse_over/out but Miguel knows about this.

> >  * Page-width - I believe you are talking about the body width, as I
> > see the old LogiLogi has a fixed width. I don't think this is the best
> > idea as it wont be fluid, but we could try to make it not fixed but
> > proportional to the width of the screen, so if you have a big screen
> > the body wont get lost in the middle with lots of white space on the
> > sides...
>
> I have mixed feelings about this. As it is well known that pages that are
> less wide are easier to read... So there is something to say for both
> approaches...
>
Ok, The best should be some kind of multiple columns layout depending
on screen size! that would be great. Anyway, it would be nice to make
some kind of max-width, but I'll have to search for browser
compatibility...

Do you prefere it to be fixed size? like the old one? It's a second.

> >  * Menu-width - I'll get the menues back as they were, it's just a second.
>
> Ok.
>
> About the new version 1; The side-borders probably are a design-choice ?
> I think I need some time to get used to them. Maybe if they became
> symmetric (having them for page-elements & menu on the right side) could
> be nice too.
>
Ok, This where tries. I also asked myself whether the "incoming links"
list items would be nested lists. Also what would the context be, more
kind of keyword/tag clouds...

> About my own work: I'm a bit entangled at the moment in upgrading the
> configuration-system (for storing settings in the database) and also
> adding minor upgrades to the link-system in order to be able to
> beautifully handle page-elements. I hope to be able to make a commit
> later tomorrow, but it could become some time after that.
>
Where do page-elements come from? are they standard or just tags
asigned to text sections?

> The new layout can be integrated really soon now.
>
Please guide me with wich files to modify and I'll do it if you
prefere, if not go ahead and please modify it coping my html.

> What, in your view, would be the best place on the page to show the
> ratings (from the different peer-groups), and the rating-UI ?
>
I'll think about this. I'll have to read again the Docs... any
guidance will be much appreciate about what would be available
information for the page, logis, peer groups, etc, related to a
certain article.

I'm not sure if it's the right approach, but I believe that if we
guide the user with popovers (display box/globe on mouseover) on
links, words/concepts, images, user names, etc, etc, and the user can
at some point customize (in quick preferences for example) which level
of information he wants to be displayed.

Is there a rating for every item of the boxes in the page? (incoming
links, contexts, page elements)

I'd really like to re-think about the entire UI once Manta is up and
running and the information starts to flow.

> Great work!,
>
Thanks!

> Wybo
>

Also, take a look at the 0.7 demo
http://www.barnraiser.org/demos/aroundme_0_7_0/aroundme
User: de...@ba...
pass: demo4me

It's a really nice work, they have a really great social concepts as I
see it. Also have rating sistem from "respected network" as would be
peers in logilogi,

Have to go. I'll have little time till Tuesday, but I can colect
information and solve doubts mainwhile.

Later.

-- 
Bruno