Re: [ jEdit-devel ] new HelpServer plugin

If you just want the jEdit API in your browser, you don't have to install
the HelpServer plugin, just open the API with your browser.
It is plain HTML files in the jEdit installation directory. :-)

2015-03-01 16:24 GMT+01:00 Edward Diener <eld...@tr...>:

> On 3/1/2015 7:44 AM, Eric Le Lay wrote:
> > HelpServer is released now: http://plugins.jedit.org/plugins/?HelpServer
>
> It would be real nice if the help server could be turned on or off as
> the Help viewer after being installed. I need HelpServer to view the
> JEdit API since the font in normal Help is way too small to see, but
> otherwise I like normal Help a bit more. But once I install the Help
> Server plugin I always get Help Server help in my browser.
>
> >
> > Regarding packaging JavaFX, there are native libraries for webview
> > (webkit), and scene-graph (3D stuff).
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Eric
> >
> >
> > Le Sat, 28 Feb 2015 03:42:12 +0100,
> > Björn Kautler <Bj...@ka...> a écrit :
> >
> >> Eric wrote:
> >>
> >>> That's all well and good, but I want my help now :-)
> >>> jEdit 5.2 depends on java 1.7 so can't depend on JavaFX.
> >>
> >> Well yes and no. 1.7 supports JavaFX, you just have to ship the
> >> runtime environment.
> >> 1.8 just changes that it is shipped with the JRE (besides some
> >> updating)
> >>
> >>> Even current stable (5.1) can be supported by HelpServer, not by
> >>> JavaFX.
> >>
> >> Indeed, I didn't say that HelpServer is maybe not a great work-around
> >> for the existing versions.
> >> I just think that the goal should be a more integrated solution than
> >> having jEdit be a web server and look at the docs with a browser.
> >> Sometimes I don't want a browser open to save memory e. g. if on a
> >> restricted environment, or sometimes I use jEdit via port forwarding
> >> on a headless server where no browser is installed.
> >>
> >>> And there is no openjdk javafx for the 3 platforms I run
> >>> (ArchLinux, Fedora Core 19 and Mac OS 10.6).
> >>
> >> If there is Java 7, there should be JavaFX. As far as I have it in
> >> mind the JavaFX JAR is pure-java and thus should work on all of them,
> >> but I might be wrong.
> >>
> >>> Can you confirm that it also display the images, etc. referenced
> >>> from jeditresource: urls? e.g. can it display the JavaSideKick
> >>> plugin help icons?
> >>
> >> I didn't check this, no.
> >> And due to my work laptop where I did the experiments with the WebView
> >> meeting death,
> >> I lost what I did there and cannot easily test now.
> >>
> >>> Note that eclipse chose to have it both ways: an embedded web server
> >>> AND a native webview...
> >>
> >> Well, to be honest I think Eclipse is not a nice or useable program.
> >> I hear my colleagues rant about it on an hourly basis and each time
> >> I'm glad to have my IntelliJ IDEA.
> >> So Eclipse is not really a good argument for me. ;-)
> >> But yeah, noone stops you from doing this web server as plugin,
> >> that's the great thing at jEdit. :-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Alan wrote:
> >>
> >>> This is much easier to package with jEdit than JavaFX! Let's clone
> >>> it in
> >> jEdit's git, and make it integrate nice and tight.
> >>
> >> Well, to package JavaFX is just including a JAR file. To integrate it
> >> might need some work, yes.
> >> But due to many reasons some of which I stated above I still think
> >> that jEdit should provide a built-in help viewer like we have.
> >> Especially now with the HelpViewer plugin the situation is not as bad
> >> as it was anymore.
> >>
> >> But as this only hits developers that want to browse the JavaDocs, as
> >> the normal help is not affected,
> >> I'd say we should not ship the HelpServer plugin but provide it via
> >> Plugin Central as almost any other plugins if that was what you
> >> meant. :-)
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> Björn
> >>
> >> 2014-12-03 23:38 GMT+01:00 Dale Anson <da...@da...>:
> >>
> >>> I finally got around to trying this, wish I'd done it earlier.
> >>> Really nice!
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Dale Anson <da...@da...>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Actually, it looks like there is a general outage at sourceforge
> >>>> at the moment. I'll give it a try later.
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 8:10 AM, Dale Anson <da...@da...>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Eric, I wanted to give this a try, but I'm getting an error page
> >>>>> from sourceforge for
> >>>>> https://sourceforge.net/u/kerik-sf/helpserver/ci/master/tree/. Any
> >>>>> chance you can post the plugin jar somewhere easily accessible?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dale
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 5, 2014 at 11:28 PM, Alan Ezust <ala...@gm...>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Eric Le Lay <
> >>>>>> ker...@us...> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> That's all well and good, but I want my help now :-)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> +1!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> jEdit 5.2 depends on java 1.7 so can't depend on JavaFX.
> >>>>>>> Even current stable (5.1) can be supported by HelpServer, not by
> >>>>>>> JavaFX.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I just tried the helpserver plugin and it is really nice!
> >>>>>> This is much easier to package with jEdit than JavaFX! Let's
> >>>>>> clone it in jEdit's git, and make it integrate nice and tight.
>
>
>
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