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once you change that, it is always safest to

mv .config xy
make mrproper
mv xy .config
make oldconfig

I've seen that error, just can't remember what it is.

ron

Hello Ron,

Thank you for your quick suggestion.

Do you mean
Loadable module support -> Enable loadable module support -> Set
version informaiton of all module symbols

in configuration of linux kernel ? If so, it does not work as follow.

$ grep MOD .config
CONFIG_MODULES=y
# CONFIG_MODVERSIONS is not set
CONFIG_KMOD=y
$ make vmlinux
....
        --end-group \
        -o vmlinux
drivers/video/video.o(.data+0x1bd4): undefined reference to `local symbols in discarded section .text.exit'
make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1
-caz

ron minnich writes:
 > try turning off module version junk. 
 > 
 > that has caused big trouble with k7's for me. I think this was one of the 
 > errors.
 > 
 > ron
 > 

try turning off module version junk. 

that has caused big trouble with k7's for me. I think this was one of the 
errors.

ron

Hello,

When I tried to compile linux kernel 2.4.19 for k7sem(i386
architecture), I had following linker error.

        --end-group \
        -o vmlinux
drivers/video/video.o(.data+0x1bd4): undefined reference to `local symbols in discarded section .text.exit'
make: *** [vmlinux] Error 1

It was caused by the declaration of
static struct pci_driver sisfb_pci_driver = {
	name:		SISFB_MODULE_NAME,
	id_table:	sisfb_pci_tbl,
	probe:		sisfb_probe,
	remove:		sisfb_remove,
};

If it were
static struct pci_driver sisfb_pci_driver = {
	name:		SISFB_MODULE_NAME,
	id_table:	sisfb_pci_tbl,
	probe:		sisfb_probe,
	//	remove:		sisfb_remove,
	remove:		__devexit_p(sisfb_remove),
};

I don't have an error. So the patch is

$ cd drivers/video/sis
$ diff sisfb_lite-0.c sisfb_lite.c
1022c1022
<       remove:         sisfb_remove,
---
>       remove:         __devexit_p(sisfb_remove),

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"JAson Hensler" <ome...@in...> writes:

> Hey,
> I'm i was wondering if the i440 bx chipsets are supported. 
Yes, there are motherboards using the 440bx chipset in the tree.

> My mb is an asus pbp. I have 256ram(read as only 128 for some
> reason) and am looking to clear this problem up thanks,

Dig into the code and have fun.

The primary discussion list is lin...@cl...

Eric

Hey,
I'm i was wondering if the i440 bx chipsets are supported. My mb is an =
asus pbp. I have 256ram(read as only 128 for some reason) and am looking =
to claer this problem up thanks,

Jason Hensler
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AIM: JasonHensler

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Ronald G Minnich <rmi...@la...> writes:

> On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, BALBIR SINGH wrote:
> 
> > linuxbios.o: In function `start_cpu':
> > linuxbios.o(.text+0x611): undefined reference to `_secondary_start'
> 
> tell us more. What motherboard?
> 
> > Since LinuxBios links with the Linux kernel, I tried to look
> > for _secondary_start (defined as extern in the code) in the Linux
> > code and in the Linux bios code. I could not find any definition.
> 
> no, it does not link with the linux kernel. This is probably a config
> problem.

LinuxBIOS only links with the kernel in the sense of cat(1).  So no symbols
should be involved.  It appears you are doing a SMP build.  Which platform
is this on again?  I'm the primary architect for the smp code but I
do't quite enough information to give a helpful explanation. 

> Let's move this discussion to linuxbios after this message.
Sounds good.

If the messages will consent to show up there.

Eric

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, BALBIR SINGH wrote:

> linuxbios.o: In function `start_cpu':
> linuxbios.o(.text+0x611): undefined reference to `_secondary_start'

tell us more. What motherboard?

> Since LinuxBios links with the Linux kernel, I tried to look
> for _secondary_start (defined as extern in the code) in the Linux
> code and in the Linux bios code. I could not find any definition.

no, it does not link with the linux kernel. This is probably a config
problem.

Let's move this discussion to linuxbios after this message.

ron

Hello, All,

I downloaded and try to configure Linux bios for a motherboard.
While I compiling the I got the following error

linuxbios.o: In function `start_cpu':
linuxbios.o(.text+0x611): undefined reference to `_secondary_start'

Since LinuxBios links with the Linux kernel, I tried to look
for _secondary_start (defined as extern in the code) in the Linux
code and in the Linux bios code. I could not find any definition.

I could _secondary_start in arch/i386/ppc, I am currently using
2.4.19-pre10 as my Linux source base.

What have I done incorrectly?

Thanks,
Balbir Singh.

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On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 04:03:25AM +0100, Christer Weinigel wrote:
> Peter Stuge <st...@cd...> wrote:
> > And what he writes in his mail on the SMM code and VSM and NSC being
> > unhelpful is also quite true.  I don't think they'll help anyone create
> > an opensource BIOS for their systems when they have a subsidiary (Insyde)
> > whose only business is to sell BIOS software for NSC platforms..
> 
> I have quite the opposite experience with National, they have been
> very helpful and have provided me with a lot of documentation (the
> SC2200 data book, errata and some reference drivers).  I have signed

The data book we got was incorrect, the errata incomplete and the drivers
broken.  OTOH, that was more than a year ago, hopefully things have changed.

> an NDA with National, but before I did that, I got a statement from
> them that it is ok for me to publish Open Source drivers that are
> created from the information I've got under the NDA.  This is
> perfectly fine with me.

This is cool though.

> registers.  (I think the same trick has been used a lot by the XFree86
> people, set up the display running Windows, dump the clock chip
> settings and do the same thing under Linux).

Unfortunately we needed more than that.  But it all worked out.  Eventually
we got a fb driver from National.

> Of course, this was just a quick hack to see how much work is needed
> to get video running on the SC2200, so I am going to sit down and read
> the documentation and figure out what these values mean.  It's much
> nicer to know what's going on, but it's not really neccesary to have
> the documentation to get something working.  What I'm trying to say is
> that if it's important enough, somebody will write a driver, the only
> question is if the manufacturer will get a good reputation as a
> Linux-friendly company or not.  Also, the quality of the driver will
> probably be a lot higher when the documentation is available.

We used the SC1200, which has lots of video stuff built-in that caused some
of our headaches.  We needed TV resolutions and had no real way to get
them at first.

> As for the VSA stuff, it does seem to be documented in the data book,
> but I'm not sure how complete the documentation is; there might be
> pieces missing from it.  However, I'm probably going to avoid VSA as
> much as possible.  VSA is mostly used to emulate legacy hardware, and
> that's not neccesary if I can write a Linux driver with native support
> instead.

The architecture is documented, but the code they're using isn't easily
available, I got a mail from Bari Ari yesterday saying that they now include
source code for the VSMs with "XpressLoader 3.3" which is cool, if they
allow you to make opensource drivers using what you learn from it.

>  Actually, to support audio properly (which the board I'm
> working on doesn't have), I think some VSA or at least SMM support is
> needed, but I'll climb that mountain when I get to it.

I think so too.  It is at least needed for the NSC drivers to work.

> So I'm feeling rather confident that with the LinuxBIOS stuff I've
> written so far, I can get a Linux kernel running, and then the Linux
> kernel can have native drivers that handle video, audio, and all the
> other interesting features of the SC2200.

Most of the features, if not all, of the SC1200 work in Linux, with the
right blend of initialization code and drivers.  (Stay away from the
National DP83815 driver, it sucks, use natsemi from Donald Becker&co
instead)

Then there's the design.  Lots of National software assume you're running as
root and not only allow but require you to poke around at physical addresses
on the bus from userspace via a neat module.  This needs to be fixed,
however not neccessarily here.

//Peter

-- 
irc: CareBear\
irl: Peter Stuge

Peter Stuge <st...@cd...> wrote:
> Had I still been there and they still been going, I would have loved to try
> out your code.  I had some discussions with Bari Ari on the topic some while
> ago, as well.
> 
> And what he writes in his mail on the SMM code and VSM and NSC being
> unhelpful is also quite true.  I don't think they'll help anyone create
> an opensource BIOS for their systems when they have a subsidiary (Insyde)
> whose only business is to sell BIOS software for NSC platforms..

I have quite the opposite experience with National, they have been
very helpful and have provided me with a lot of documentation (the
SC2200 data book, errata and some reference drivers).  I have signed
an NDA with National, but before I did that, I got a statement from
them that it is ok for me to publish Open Source drivers that are
created from the information I've got under the NDA.  This is
perfectly fine with me.

Anyways, it's always possible to get to the information some other way
if one wants to.  For example, I just wrote a small program that dumps
the contents of the display controller registers.  Then I booted using
the Insyde BIOS, and ran my little program.  The next step was to do a
cold boot (power off, wait a few seconds, power on) using LinuxBIOS so
that the display controller is totally uninitialised.  Finally I wrote
another small program to program the display controller with the
settings I had recorded.  This way I just managed to get a 640x480,
truecolor framebuffer running under Linux, without really having to
understand anything about what goes into the display controller
registers.  (I think the same trick has been used a lot by the XFree86
people, set up the display running Windows, dump the clock chip
settings and do the same thing under Linux).

Of course, this was just a quick hack to see how much work is needed
to get video running on the SC2200, so I am going to sit down and read
the documentation and figure out what these values mean.  It's much
nicer to know what's going on, but it's not really neccesary to have
the documentation to get something working.  What I'm trying to say is
that if it's important enough, somebody will write a driver, the only
question is if the manufacturer will get a good reputation as a
Linux-friendly company or not.  Also, the quality of the driver will
probably be a lot higher when the documentation is available.

As for the VSA stuff, it does seem to be documented in the data book,
but I'm not sure how complete the documentation is; there might be
pieces missing from it.  However, I'm probably going to avoid VSA as
much as possible.  VSA is mostly used to emulate legacy hardware, and
that's not neccesary if I can write a Linux driver with native support
instead.  Actually, to support audio properly (which the board I'm
working on doesn't have), I think some VSA or at least SMM support is
needed, but I'll climb that mountain when I get to it.

So I'm feeling rather confident that with the LinuxBIOS stuff I've
written so far, I can get a Linux kernel running, and then the Linux
kernel can have native drivers that handle video, audio, and all the
other interesting features of the SC2200.  I must admit that I might
not release everything as Open Source yet, some drivers might have to
be binary-only Linux modules for a while, if I can make money that way
by selling an exclusive right to a client.  I would prefer to publish
everything as Open Source, but it's not always possible.

   /Christer

-- 
"Just how much can I get away with and still go to heaven?"

On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Peter Stuge wrote:

> Out but not yet complete.  The VGA, audio and probably something else I
> forgot still require code available only in binary form, under approriate
> agreements..

ah yes, but I don't care. See our lunchbox :-)

> I will easily say that a LinuxBIOS for the SCx2xx platform is among the
> cooler things done by the opensource community so far, but I'm probably a
> bit biased.  :)  There's no doubt that it's a very young platform however,
> and one that has more than one secret.

I will agree with you :-)

ron

On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 08:34:42AM -0700, Ronald G Minnich wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Peter Stuge wrote:
> 
> > And what he writes in his mail on the SMM code and VSM and NSC being
> > unhelpful is also quite true.  I don't think they'll help anyone create
> > an opensource BIOS for their systems when they have a subsidiary (Insyde)
> > whose only business is to sell BIOS software for NSC platforms..
> 
> too late. LinuxBIOS is out :-)

Out but not yet complete.  The VGA, audio and probably something else I
forgot still require code available only in binary form, under approriate
agreements..

I will easily say that a LinuxBIOS for the SCx2xx platform is among the
cooler things done by the opensource community so far, but I'm probably a
bit biased.  :)  There's no doubt that it's a very young platform however,
and one that has more than one secret.

//Peter

-- 
irc: CareBear\
irl: Peter Stuge

On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Peter Stuge wrote:

> And what he writes in his mail on the SMM code and VSM and NSC being
> unhelpful is also quite true.  I don't think they'll help anyone create
> an opensource BIOS for their systems when they have a subsidiary (Insyde)
> whose only business is to sell BIOS software for NSC platforms..

too late. LinuxBIOS is out :-)

Wonder what they'll do now.

ron

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