AT504285B1 - METHOD FOR OPERATING A FLOW HEATER WITH MULTIPLE ZAPFSTELLEN - Google Patents
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F24—HEATING; RANGES; VENTILATING
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F24—HEATING; RANGES; VENTILATING
- F24H—FLUID HEATERS, e.g. WATER OR AIR HEATERS, HAVING HEAT-GENERATING MEANS, e.g. HEAT PUMPS, IN GENERAL
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- G01—MEASURING; TESTING
- G01F—MEASURING VOLUME, VOLUME FLOW, MASS FLOW OR LIQUID LEVEL; METERING BY VOLUME
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- F—MECHANICAL ENGINEERING; LIGHTING; HEATING; WEAPONS; BLASTING
- F24—HEATING; RANGES; VENTILATING
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Description
2 AT 504 285 B12 AT 504 285 B1
Die Erfindung bezieht sich auf ein Verfahren zum Betreiben eines Durchlauferhitzers mit mehreren Zapfstellen.The invention relates to a method for operating a water heater with multiple taps.
Aus der AT 409 572 B ist ein elektrischer Durchlauferhitzer bekannt, an den mehrere Zapfstellen angeschlossen sind. An jeder Zapfstelle befindet sich eine Funkfernbedienung, an welcher die Soll-Temperatur eingestellt werden kann. Die Soll-Temperatur wird jeweils dadurch verändert, dass an einer der Fernbedienungen ein Signalknopf gedrückt wird. Wird abwechselnd an mehreren Zapfstellen Wasser gezapft, so muss jeweils zur Veränderung der Temperatur der entsprechende Knopf gedrückt werden.From AT 409 572 B an electric instantaneous water heater is known to which several tapping points are connected. At each tap there is a radio remote control to which the setpoint temperature can be set. The setpoint temperature is changed by pressing a signal button on one of the remote controls. If water is tapped alternately at several taps, the respective button must be pressed to change the temperature.
Aus der DE 37 01 832 A1 ist eine Warmwasserversorgungsanlage mit mehreren Zapfstellen bekannt. Die Zapfstellen münden in elektrisch betätigte Ventile. Beim Zapfen muss das elektrische Ventil betätigt werden. Dies löst ein entsprechendes Signal im Durchlauferhitzer aus, wonach der Durchlauferhitzer die Auslauftemperatur auf die Soll-Temperatur der individuellen Zapfstelle einstellt. Dies hat jedoch den Nachteil, dass die Zapfstellen mit einem elektronischen Ventil versehen sein müssen, was in üblichen Haushalten nicht der Fall ist.From DE 37 01 832 A1 a hot water supply system with several tapping points is known. The taps open into electrically operated valves. When tapping the electric valve must be actuated. This triggers a corresponding signal in the water heater, after which the water heater adjusts the outlet temperature to the target temperature of the individual tap. However, this has the disadvantage that the taps must be provided with an electronic valve, which is not the case in normal households.
Der Erfindung liegt die Aufgabe zugrunde, ein Verfahren zum Betreiben eines Durchlauferhitzers mit mehreren Zapfstellen zu schaffen, bei denen individuell für jede Zapfstelle der Durchlauferhitzer die entsprechende Temperatur bereitstellt.The invention has for its object to provide a method for operating a water heater with multiple taps, where individually for each tapping point of the water heater provides the appropriate temperature.
Erfindungsgemäß wird dies gemäß den Merkmalen des Anspruchs 1 dadurch erreicht, dass sich in der Zuleitung zu den Zapfstellen Sensoren befinden, welche eine Zapfung erkennen und ein entsprechendes Signal an den Durchlauferhitzer senden. Dieser stellt die Soll-Auslauftemperatur auf die individuell an der Zapfstelle gewünschte Temperatur ein. Vorteilhafte Ausgestaltungen ergeben sich durch die Merkmale der abhängigen Ansprüche.According to the invention this is achieved according to the features of claim 1, characterized in that there are sensors in the supply line to the taps, which detect a tap and send a corresponding signal to the water heater. This adjusts the set outlet temperature to the temperature desired individually at the tap. Advantageous embodiments result from the features of the dependent claims.
Der Volumenstrom kann in einfacher Ausgestaltung mittels Durchflussmesser mit Flügelrad gemessen werden. Hierbei besteht die Möglichkeit, dass der Durchflussmesser mit Flügelrad zugleich Strom produziert. Mittels dieser Stromproduktion kann die Datenübermittlung vom Durchflussmesser zum Durchflusserhitzer erfolgen, gegebenenfalls - jedoch nicht notwendigerweise - kann hier zusätzlich ein Akkumulator, welcher Energie Zwischenspeichern kann, zum Einsatz kommen. Da nur kleine Mengen elektrischer Leistung für die Datenübermittlung benötigt werden, kann auch ein Kondensator als Energiespeicher genügen.The volume flow can be measured in a simple embodiment by means of flow meter with impeller. There is the possibility that the flow meter with impeller produces electricity at the same time. By means of this power production, the data transfer from the flow meter to the flow heater can be done, if necessary - but not necessarily - can here additionally an accumulator, which energy caching can be used. Since only small amounts of electrical power are required for data transmission, a capacitor can also be sufficient as energy storage.
Die Datenübermittlung kann über elektrische Leitungen, über einen Funksender, der unmittelbar mit dem Volumenstrommesser verbunden ist oder über eine Fernbedienung, welche an der Zapfstelle zur Vorgabe der Auslauftemperatur angeordnet ist, gesendet werden.The data transmission can be sent via electrical lines, via a radio transmitter, which is connected directly to the volume flow meter or via a remote control, which is arranged at the tap to specify the outlet temperature.
Die Erfindung wird nun anhand der Figur detailliert erläutert.The invention will now be explained in detail with reference to FIG.
Die Figur zeigt einen elektrischen Durchlauferhitzer 1 mit einer Regelung 2 und einen mit der Regelung 2 verbundenen Empfänger 3. Ferner befindet sich in dem Durchlauferhitzer 1 eine Eingabevorrichtung 12. Eine Kaltwasserleitung 14 mündet in den elektrischen Durchlauferhitzer 1. Aus dem Durchlauferhitzer führt eine Warmwasserleitung 13 über Verbindungsleitungen 15, 16, 17 zu drei Zapfstellen 4, 5, 6. Vor den Zapfstellen 4, 5, 6 befinden sich Volumenstrommesser 7, 9, 10. An dem Volumenstrommesser 7 an der Zapfstelle 4 ist eine Funkfernbedienung 8 angeschlossen. Diese Funkfernbedienung 8 steht in Verbindung mit dem Empfänger 3 des Durchlauferhitzers 1. Der Volumenstrommesser 9 an der Zapfstelle 5 verfügt über einen integrierten Funksender, der in Verbindung mit dem Empfänger 3 des Durchlauferhitzers 1 steht. Der Volumenstrommesser 10 der Zapfstelle 6 ist über eine Datenleitung 11 unmittelbar mit der Regelung 2 verbunden.The FIGURE shows an electrical instantaneous water heater 1 with a controller 2 and a receiver 3 connected to the controller 2. Furthermore, an input device 12 is located in the instantaneous water heater 1. A cold water pipe 14 opens into the electric instantaneous water heater 1. A hot water pipe 13 leads out of the instantaneous water heater Connecting lines 15, 16, 17 to three taps 4, 5, 6. In front of the taps 4, 5, 6 are volumetric flow meter 7, 9, 10. At the volumetric flow meter 7 at the tapping point 4, a radio remote control 8 is connected. This radio remote control 8 is in communication with the receiver 3 of the instantaneous water heater 1. The volume flow meter 9 at the tap 5 has an integrated radio transmitter, which is in communication with the receiver 3 of the instantaneous water heater 1. The volumetric flow meter 10 of the tap 6 is connected directly to the control unit 2 via a data line 11.
Die Soll-Temperatur der Zapfstelle 4 kann über die Fernbedienung 8 eingegeben und über Funk an den Empfänger 3 weitergeleitet werden. Die Soll-Temperatur der Zapfstelle 5 wird überThe target temperature of the tapping point 4 can be entered via the remote control 8 and forwarded via radio to the receiver 3. The target temperature of the tapping point 5 is over
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