Yea Ok, but Hassan only cares about clout. That’s it. He found his grift on the left and has capitalized on it. Any attempt to build coalitions, lift up the left or acquire power for the movement is undercut by his need for more clout. He’s not the ally the movement needs, but a peak representation of superficial rhetoric that the left seems to be drawn to these days. The medium is the message or whatever

Man, destiny sure lives rent free in your heads holy shit.

I would like to see the online members bridge the connection to real world activism with real call to actions. I do plan to get involved in real world organizations again as I’ve been involved in the past tangentially. That being said, without some type of coalition building and community activism it becomes stale. I’m all about that class consciousness, but there is the difference between “being” and “doing”, and the reality is only the latter matters.

I’d take the green party more seriously if they ditched Jill Stein. 159 local seats is not nothing, but if you take into account the entire life span of the green party, it’s not great either. We need to make real world strides, and I don’t think that’s accomplished by deriding liberals or democrats non-stop. It just won’t work.

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I’d understand or join with the lefty never-voting-anti-capitalist tankies if they had a plan, or a strategy, or a goal, or a coalition they were building towards. But there is nothing. No movement, no goals, no aims to achieve political power. It’s all virtue signaling. We have people from Syria and Palestine literally begging the lefties to cease their rhetoric because it’s causing more harm than good. But the reality is lefties aren’t interested in solutions. They want to feel good about their online social media activism and watch Hassan Piker stream from a luxury hotel in Cuba while 90% of the country goes without electricity. That is the peak american socialist movement.

Neat!

I’ve talked to probably hundreds of lefties online. None. I mean none. Can seem to give an adequate roadmap of what ought to be done. Where do you see the ideal US in 15 years and how do we get there? I see lots of grandstanding and pontificating, but nothing that resembles a roadmap. But, boy, you guys sure have lots of opinions about everything it seems. At least you proferred “vegetable gardens”, so I’ll give you that. It’s a lot more than others have shared. And that really says something, doesn’t it?

What does Gimp do that Krita (or other FOSS projects) can’t?

I mean… DHS isn’t going away and neither are borders. And don’t tell me that once the left is in power they’ll just open the border. So, your inability to distinguish between the value of thirty million earmarked funds vs FIFTY BILLION either shows your lack of understanding of math or bad faith

Same old same old… More self aggrandizing lecturing. Lefties are only good for one thing: fellating each other 24/7. Get back to me when the revolution starts.

No, I just get tired of sanctimonious lefties telling us to “grow vegetable gardens” because “power is built from the ground up” or whatever other empty vacuous platitudes they fellate each other with day in and out. It’s so fake

The only joke here is you comparing a measly 30mil to 50 BILLION ( With a “B”)

Sure. I love these empty platitudes. They feel good on paper, don’t they? I too am growing a vegetable garden. Let’s jerk each other off while we read some leninist theory. Cool cool. I know that’s about as much lefties can get done anyway.

Haha what a joke. That’s why I asked for raw numbers. If you go beyond the sensational headline from “united we dream”

growing from roughly $442 million to now well over $470 million.

Meanwhile Trump increased ICE budget to 50 BILLION. Not millions. BILLIONS. 50

What a joke this conversation is

How much did Biden increase it by? Give the raw numbers. And what were the funds earmarked for?

You’re so full of shit.

Go back to watching Hassan Piker stream from his 1200$ hotel room in Cuba.

The rest of us are going to work on rebuilding. We know what you’re doing.

I mean…you keep confirming what I assumed to be true. There is no plan. No plan to build political power. No plan to build coalitions. Nothing. Just posting feel good diatribes on Lemmy from your iPhone. You want me to grow a vegetable garden? That’s it? Cool.

The 50bn dollar expansion to ICE happened unde Republicans and is larger than the military budget of many countries. Don’t you dare try to both sides this because Biden gave ICE a bump. No amount of comparisons will wash away the cruelty and damage of this administration.

Ah gotcha. I gotta figure it out for you. We’ll get back to me when you have strategy, coalitions, anything. Right now it seems we have a collection of edge lord teenagers on Lemmy wearing che Guevara shirts.

Such a collection of cliches and platitudes…are you going to say anything of substance at some point? Do you have a coherent plan of action… Or is it business as usual on Lemmy here?

At some point you grow out of your teenage years (maybe) and you realize not all of history is exclusively framed through class consciousness and this type of reductive powerlessness and inaction is why we have children in detention centers now eating moldy food. But thanks to the privileged lefties pontificating on social platforms like you we can ensure the cycle of cruelty continues. Keep it up.

You have power to be inactive, that’s for sure.