Absolute idiocy. I can blow three times that on a standard pushy.
I kinda wish this video had been filmed going the opposite direction. Going uphill at 12 km/h is nice, but trying to stay under 10 km/h downhill is downright dangerous!
10kph??? I can go like 50 with a normal one tho there is a limit of 30 or 40 in most places so you dont just decimate someone by crashing into them on a sidewalk
I hope you aren’t doing 50 when there are pedestrians around!
But otherwise yeah, exactly. One of my favourite things to do is race my friends on the 3 metre–wide Gateway North Bikeway stretch starting at the top of the hill, a 3.5 km stretch where I try to keep above 50 km/h as long as possible once it flattens out, and then keep it going as fast as I can until the end of the 5 km “lap” on my Garmin (where exactly that is depends on the exact route I took for the rest of my ride). There are rarely any pedestrians around, or on the rare circumstance there are pedestrians, the path is so wide and clear that it’s very easy to give them a very wide berth, as long as it doesn’t happen at the same time as a cyclist coming the other way.
Nah that would be unhinged, i usually go in the part of the city where theres a completely seperate bike and pedastrian path. Theres also a part near my house(up on a hill) where i can(more like could, in not such a daredevil) overtake cars. Of course this is a pretty serious downhill but the same way you do it, after you already accelerate its easier to keep the speed tho im a pretty big guy so the wind resistance is insane. But its a pretty good feeling when i get to the city faster than the bus by like 10-20 minutes tho once again i live on a hill so getting home is torture. I also went to an event in the city with friends once and i had a bike cause thats the way i got there and we started at the same time, them with a bus, me with bike and it was so funny when i told them i was waiting for five minutes.
where theres a completely seperate bike and pedastrian path
So, those areas will be unaffected. It’s footpaths and shared paths (Queensland doesn’t actually have a legal legislative difference between the two) that will be affected. That includes everything shown in this video (except the road turned into right at the end). It also includes excellent, wide “bikeways” like the Gateway North Bikeway:
its a pretty good feeling when i get to the city faster than the bus by like 10-20 minutes
I actually first started bike commuting for exactly this reason. I needed to get to the post office before it closed, and it closed earlier than I could get there by bus. Switching to my bike enabled me to pick up my package in time.
The voters of QLD elected this LNP government when their stated aim was to crack down on young people. It’ll get worse before it gets better.
I tend to notice that people less confident ride the footpath instead of on the road. I was thinking about this and I think this should be a choice, as footpaths tend to be better for a slower, leisurely pace. Of course a bike lane would be great here and would be a middle ground that might allow slightly faster riding without having to veer around pedestrians or pay close attention to driveways (the real reason why a lot of cyclists avoid footpaths).
The video doesn’t quite capture the extent of Greater Brisbane’s shared path network of unofficial bikeways that will technically also requires e-bikes and e-scooters to ride 10km/h.
It’s simple math, but slow speeds like 10km/h would obviously double the time for the trip which is the real killer here.
I think there are different places where shared paths make sense versus separated bike paths. Along the road at the start, and the road nearer the end (before turning off down the hill), separated bike paths seem appropriate, and it looks like there’s ample room for them. But the underpass and path through the park that connected them is perfect for a shared path. Making it a bit wider in the last section would be good, but it’s otherwise quite a good solution.
The video doesn’t quite capture the extent of Greater Brisbane’s shared path network of unofficial bikeways that will technically also requires e-bikes and e-scooters to ride 10km/h.
Well, part of this video shows one of those. The Cabbage Tree Creek Bikeway it uses while going under the underpass is one of these so-called “bikeways” that legally counts as a shared path, where the 10 km/h limit would apply. But yeah, it definitely didn’t focus on that element.
Laws like this are pointless when police can’t police them. We have kids on ebikes doing stunts and such on main roads (2 lanes each way) and if they sniff police they hit bike tracks where they can’t be pursued.
The law here is ostensibly supposed to be to deal with exactly that situation. It does some good things, like giving police the power to confiscate those illegal ebikes, and to hold parents legally responsible (unless the parent can demonstrate they genuinely could not have prevented it). But it does some incredibly fucking dumb things too, like the 10 km/h speed limit mentioned in the video. And all to prevent people doing something that’s…already illegal. Because electric motorbikes that operate without pedalling or which can go above 25 km/h with pedal assist are already illegal to ride in public. Police fail to enforce it currently, so there’s no reason to believe they’ll be enforcing it if this passes. Except perhaps the occasional blitz of enforcement in easily-accessible places where the vast majority of people they catch would have been doing the right thing prior to the law’s passing.
Side note: we have police with bikes of their own who occasionally do this, so hitting the bike tracks doesn’t stop a pursuit. The thing that stops a pursuit is that the police know that a high-speed pursuit just increases the danger to both the accused and to the general public. So they only pursue under very limited circumstances.
I’m in the Logan council area so maybe policing is a bit different down here.
Honestly, the speed limit doesn’t phase me but I felt 15KPH was too slow but when I irregularly used my escooter to commute 15KPH across 30KMs is a long time but I basically was in motorcycle gear (I sold it and bus now thanks for 50c fares). I have seen a lot of cyclists powering along at 40KPH being 1 pebble or wobble from going under a car. Either bikes, scooters, skateboards, ewhatevers can wipe out a runner without visibility which is the biggest issue with Brisbane streets.
In a lot of these situations a police officer in a car (which is most likely position they will see these sorts of things happen) is the worst option for enforcement because they cannot pursue. If you cannot pursue, you cannot enforce making it a weak law. How often do you see push bike police in suburban streets though? Never.
Ebike is not a motorbike though. You can get a Zero EV Motorcycle and they go zero to 100 in 1 second, are registered etc and always on the road. Ebikes and escooters are an in-between that need their own classifications.
My opinion comes from an ex-motorcyclist and I always felt push bike riding was the more dangerous activity.