Look if you got a dozen awesome solutions to food waste throw that up instead of a low effort meme. I’m very open to detailed answers.

So far I’ve got a reading list about anarchy. And another person told me consumer choice and marketing lead to waste, but was a little light on how getting rid of consumer choice and marketing would effect production and/or solve the efficiency issue. But I did ask for clarification.

I’m here. I’m trying. I want to solve these problems as bad as everybody who seems to have the answers.

It absolutely is not. It is a commodity fuel that can be converted into heat energy when vaporized and ignited by a secondary energy source. You can pour it directly into a combustion engine and nothing will happen until you provide a spark. It can evaporate without being converted into a significant source of energy.

Electricity is energy. It does not need a secondary source of energy to convert it into heat or light. Electricity arcs through the atmosphere it instantly and automatically converts to light and heat.

That’s why they are produced, transported, and sold in such radically different ways.

Okay so we’re going to overlook the waist created by 350 million consumers disposing of unconsumed food products and focus on 150,000 lb more or less of product produced by the potato chip industry.

Odd choice but let’s start there and with actionable items. We get rid of consumer choice and advertising. Presumably we’ve now reduced potato production to the exact demand required for chips. So they’re not wasted.

How does that help anybody?

Are we reallocating that farmland to a more productive crop? Who’s in charge of that? How is it managed? I’m told anarchy is the fix but I don’t see how anarchy tackles this specific potato chip issue.

And under what system do we have zero waste potato production?

See how easy it would have been to start there?

There are vacant homes so if there was anarchy… People would identify and relocate to those vacant homes… By some means.

Or “if it wasn’t for this damned government, I wouldn’t be throwing away carrot skins and old leftovers, I’d be making vegetable stock and unregulated penicillin with them”.

So that’s a “no” on having any answers. We’re just going to do “capitalism bad. And no one starved outside of capitalism”. It’s okay.

The funny part is I’m not taking a pro capitalism stance. I’m not fighting you on this. I’ll accept your premise. Let’s hear the solution. You can solve the world’s problems no sense keeping it to yourself.

Yes. And socialism. And communism. And feudalism.

Instead of doing the captain obvious bit, point me towards the -ism that fixes inefficiency, food spoilage, lopsided real estate demand, while respecting basic human rights and public safety. Cuz I’m in.

Hold the memes and show me the solution.

Great. So do it. Don’t talk about it be about it.

But that’s not what this meme is about. Spouting context free statistics to pretend there’s an evil conspiracy is just tin foil hat shit that serves no one.

I’d love it if I could always find someone who wants to finish the last half of my fried rice before it dries out in the fridge, but a food bank won’t take half eaten food. The distribution system exists, the soon to be wasted food has a willing donor. But there are practical limitations that generate millions of pounds of wasted food that have no basis in greed or Ill will.

This is a moral superiority circle jerk. “Look at us. We get it. Waste bad. Efficiency good. Helping others good.” Groundbreaking shit. It’s a shame no one’s thought of this before.

Which people do you want to put in what a vacant home? Who gets to decide? How do we relocate them? Do they have a say in this? What do they do once they’re there? What do we do if they won’t relocate? Show me a reasonable policy document you want passed that addresses any of this shit… I’ll personally write my congressman and senator about it. I’ll donate time and money to the cause.

These thimble deep hot takes are annoying.

Is there waste in the system… Yeah. It’s also worth noting there has never been a zero waste supply chain or distribution system under any economic system or government.

Centrallia PA had a lot of vacant houses for years. 500+ over about 4 decades. Nobody seemed to want them on account of the giant underground coal fire randomly collapsing the terrain and spewing toxic gasses. What a waste of good housing am I right?

Or check out some of the offerings around Amboy CA. You can get a vacant house and 5 acres in twenty nine palms for 18 grand.

https://www.trulia.com/home/78701-ramona-dr-twentynine-palms-ca-92277-299170461

Gas isn’t energy, it’s fuel. It’s a commodity with a global market. Producers have to physically store it. Refined gasoline has a shelf life and production is planned weeks to months in advance. If demand falls off their product depreciates and they have storage expenses. If a gas company cuts production below demand competitors can ramp up and eat that market share because consumers have options.

But electricity tends to be a captured, monopolistic market. There’s no scalable physical storage. The supply is whatever they are producing locally right now and they have some say in that. There’s no tanker of Saudi electricity coming to relieve the market and you’re not going to drive your house to a filling station to top off your electricity.

Liquid natural gas is similar, in that most people will just pay whatever is asked for what’s pumped into their homes, but less dramatic because it is a physical commodity that can be replaced or substituted.

Yeah. Any car that isn’t armored should be assumed 0% bulletproof. I wouldn’t trust a car door to protect me from a .22.

The engine block is the only thing on a regular cop car that would reliably stop, deflect, or at least slow most bullets.

Exactly, so there’s never a reason to bring down the price. If anything you’d bring down the supply (e.g. Enron during the California energy crisis).

No, those are all necessary.

I needed a machete one time and honestly could have managed with a different tool. I now own three of them.

Another BioShock… Don’t mind if I do.

They can turn off some generators and adjust the supply down for ideal revenue/profits, reduce staffing levels, and extend equipment life. There’s no reason for them to charge you $50 for something once you’ve told them you’ll pay $100 for it.

You should listen to some of the recordings of the energy traders at Enron. They did this stuff all the time.

We did alcohol prohibition in the US once. I wouldn’t describe the effect on crime as “settled down”. A more apt description might be “St Valentine’s Day Massacre”.

It probably doesn’t matter if they are actually bulletproof. They’ll be used as propaganda show cars, or personal vehicles for the brass, and never called into actual service.

No one in their right mind is going to pick the “bulletproof” cybertruck over an armored Bearcat in a scenario where they expect to be shot at. For non-tactical applications they’re no more or less bulletproof than a standard potrol vehicle.

I’m sure I’ll get down voted to holy hell for saying this, but I’ve always appreciated that the rules are pretty transparent and it was easy for me to rack up a great credit score even before I had a decent income. To me it always felt like an open book test.

I was screaming that he was exactly what he purports to be. None of this was a bait and switch.

I will never understand why users don’t like client side decorations. I get why developers might dislike it. But the title bar is Gnome is functional.

I love KDE but every window having a big, windows 95 ass, useless bar doing nothing but wasting screen space feels so old and clunky. No one needs that much handle on a window.