I can see how for some people cron is more straightforward to learn, at least till you need to handle logging, checking for cron results, handling when the triggered event can’t happen that instance, ensuring only one instance of the triggered thing happens at once, adding time jitter, etc.

Then timers are way simpler. Timers let you create robust timed events for free. With cron you need to do all that yourself.

Weird for sure. Why do you keep on asking this question in different ways on different accounts? Are you trying to justify it? Is it a fetish?

Inquiring minds want to know!

That’s because you know cron. If you knew timers equally as well they would be easier. And they let you handle the edge cases (retry, randomness, tracking, logs etc) without the need for a custom script.

Once you factor in the production edge cases I think timers are clearly easier. You get all of it for free.

I think if you know cron from the start it can be easier, but it gets really annoying really fast.

Compare:

0 0 * * * /usr/bin/flock -n /tmp/myjob.lock bash -c 'sleep $((RANDOM % 3600)) && /usr/local/bin/myjob.sh'

To:

[Timer]
OnCalendar=daily
RandomizedDelaySec=1h

That and things like systemd preventing overlapped delays, handing what to do if the system was down during the last cycle, built in logging and event tracking. Seeing successful vs non successful runs etc.

Once you add in those production requirements cron gets annoying fast and timers are easy.

The main functional difference between systemd and others is that systemd will just work. Others will require you hand tune and hand tinker with a non-mainstream Linux distro.

If your hobby is init systems by all means mess around though.

I personally quite like systemd. Unit files are clean, timers services and sockets are easy to manage etc.

Honestly it’s a non-problem. Best advice is to use what is best supported. Don’t let the extremely fringe (but loud) tiny group of systemd haters throw you off.

Imagine being this ignorant. They chose to fork only office because it’s web based and AGPL.

The original only office team refuses to allow community contributions and tries to stop people from forking it with a stupid (against the terms and spirit of the AGPL) poison pill.

Eurooffice are the good people here.

Fedora with Niri on laptop / desktop.

Alma Linux on servers.

But surely we can agree not to use SCMP, RT, and VoA? Just because things get bad doesn’t mean we have to actively reach for the bottom.

Places like Al Jazeera and the Associated Press exist.

Hey man I get it. But at this point I don’t think there is any reason to think blahaj as an instance is bigoted in any way, and there is every reason to think they are quite the opposite.

I hope you feel better soon. Best we end this chat to reduce trauma and increase healing.

I understand. And I can see the ableism examples that you put forward.

Do you have any example of the Nazi takeover of blahaj? Or that they are bigoted towards bi men or non binary people? Like I want to give you the benefit of the doubt here, but I just see the opposite of what you are claiming.

You are right that people can be blind to such things though. And that is why I am asking you. I very much don’t think I would be blind to a Nazi takeover of blahaj, but I admit you may see something that I don’t.

Once again is there any example that you could point out?

I do hang out with them a lot. A lot of my favorite communities are there. I see no Nazi tolerance at all there let alone “taking over” I also see none of this bigotry that you say is there. Contrarily, I see an active anti bigotry set of rules policies and guidelines in general. In the community culture I also see a strong belief in the stated values.

I am willing to change my views on the instance but what you claim, I am just not seeing.

That sounds not so nice. Is there an example out there or the like?

No, but I’ve seen my fair share of concern trolling.

I am neither a bi man nor nonbinary and care, but I value my time.

I’m sorry. I’m not on blahaj.

Bigotry towards bi men and non-binary folk seems very much not like them.

Are you a bi man or non-binary person? If so I would be interested hearing what sort of discrimination you faced at blahaj. I recommend them quite a bit but would rather not if they are hateful in that way.

Yup! They work really hard to create a strong queer space. That means they work hard to exclude bigotry and the like, even in its micro aggression form.

Yahhhhh. It’s a rough situation to be a non tankie on a tankie instance.

The issue is that a lot? a majority? a great majority? of users there have very “out there” opinions and more and more of them are trying to be more subtle about it.

Avg .ml user: Long winded post about why war is bad

Avg responder: I agree war should be avoided for the harm it causes.

Avg .ml user: Therefore we all must support Russia against the imperialist Ukrainians!

Avg responder: Russia started the war. Why should we support them?

Avg .ml user: Because NATO forced Russia to invade. In reality it was NATOs fault!

Avg responder: I wasted my time here. No point in arguing.

The average non .ml user has been through this or seen this enough to be cautious of seemingly reasonable balanced arguments from .ml users.

I totally get staying, but personally if I woke up and my account was on .ml I would move.

Different policies and rules mostly. Lemmy.ml has a ton of weirdly pro Russia and China admins on it. Very tankie Stalinist. blahaj.zone Is really nicely queer friendly. dbzer0.com has a cool anarchist hacker culture etc.

For me the problem I have with lemmy.ml is that that if you disagree with Russia’s invasion on one news community you’ll find yourself banned from the Linux community.

Level 4 self driving cars.

Out of curiosity what mandatory features would you consider missing?

Yah but community centric GPL to no copyright is sort of the goal for the recent slop rewrites.

If there is no copyright on the slop output code based on GPL code that’s a win for the corps.