BigAssFan

I noticed 20+ guys reminiscing on games they played as kids. Nostalgia starts soon nowadays.

We really should stop holding animals captive for our own pleasure.

77M voted for Trump against 75M for Harris. So the majority voted for Trump, despite everyone telling them what a shitshow it would be. Which we can now witness on a daily basis.

Chicken are bred to lay more and more eggs, to the point of exhaustion. This was never a free choice, of course. Neither was it natural.

People bitten by dogs experience significant health decrease. News at ten!

It’s a sign of peace, so he can get a Nobel prize next time round.

Speaking from experience, change in diet is not that difficult, including all the stuff you need for a healthy life. Lots of studies even indicate that a vegan diet is generally more healthy than eating meat & dairy. Other than that, vegans can hardly do anything right, so that’s a given. If they don’t speak up nobody hears the (valid) arguments and animals keep getting slaughtered and otherwise mistreated. When they do speak up they are denounced for speaking their mind, no matter what the counter argument would be, if present at all. Being on a platform that is built for communication, I thought it valid to post what I posted, so there you go.

A vegan diet is not hard to get right. Not at all. The only hard part is that most people are not vegan.

Unlike lions, people have the choice not to eat another animal.

Solutions are really not that complicated.

Plus doing away with cattle. (Yeah, c’mon.)

Same direction indeed. If there’s somebody slow ahead of you. Looks pretty narrow with tight turns, but it’s probably better than biking between the cars.

Alright, we’ll just buy Chinese electric cars instead.

Still running a FP4, only replaced the battery and the charging port. No further issues, works like a charm.

Was my understanding as well. Last day of the week is for rest, which Christians do on a Sunday. Funny that a lot of Christian countries still use Sabbath as last day of the week.

In a democracy, it all boils down to who votes for what. Too bad that people are so susceptible to propaganda, which taps in to their fears and low moral values. It’s okay to blame the politicians, but don’t forget the voters who have given them permission.

Yeah, they’ll probably blame left-wing liberals for what is happening right now.

You’re right, I missed that part. Even though he was mainly an entrepeneur during the war, he did shortly work for government before it.

Thank you for your lengthy answer, which adds and makes me brush up on my current knowledge. Still, we’re merely skimming the surface here, as everything is interconnected and there’s too much knowledge available to handle and weigh everything.

You’re right that population is the main cause of humans causing trouble on a planetary scale. 95-97% of land-based mammals are either humans or cattle, according to current estimates. Nature is then left with the small percentage of mammals left as part of a viable natural ecosystem. The strain on it is not difficult to see. Still, the current global population can be sustained by our planet provided we move away from eating meat, as approx. 75-80% of the global agricultural area is used for cattle. Including dairy, that is.

The carbon that plants use comes mainly from the air, not from the soil, through CO2. Permaculture is an improvement compared to common agricultural monoculture, but mainly relies on cattle to resupply the minerals in the soil, human waste is generally no part of the intended circularity. It used to be, some centuries ago, before sewers became commonplace. Presently it’s more difficult and therefore costly to regain all those minerals among all the toxins in sewage systems, so we don’t. We just have fertilizer factories on one end of the system and flush it down the toilet on the other end. Problem with that is that it heats up the atmosphere. (Solutions for this still to be worked out.)

I don’t get the statement on animal wellbeing and them being raised in the same area. Is that about family bonds between animals? Anyway, how people treat animals in the agricultural industry is not so pretty, the more knowledge I gain on that over the years, the worse it gets. Animals are just used for human pleasure, either on our plates or as pets. I’ve reached a point where it would be best when animals are not kept at all by humans. Only have wild animals to live their lives however they see fit, with as little human intervention as possible. I know it’s quite a radical stance that I will not witness in my lifetime, but it is still a point on the horizon to aim for. At least there’s still some nature left where this is true, quite often even in urban areas, where wild animals freely roam their environment, surviving on whatever they come across.

Health is quite a topic altogether, meat eating is correlated not only with certain types of cancer but also with coronary and vascular problems. The study you refer to is but one and deals mainly with replacing saturated fats with omega-6 types, I’ve understood that it’s more about the ratio between omega 6 to omega 3 in our diets. These can come from fish oil, but then includes heavy elements and microplastics that fish filter out from whatever’s floating around in the oceans. Vegetable oils can also be used for cholesterol management, e.g. rapeseed oil seems to have a good balance in fatty acids. But health is of course also affected by caloric intake, exercise, minerals, sugars and other carbohydrates, etc. All recommended levels can be met without the use of meat. There was even a study on fish having health benefits, not because fish are so healthy, but they replace meat, which is unhealthy. See e.g. https://www.everydayhealth.com/diet-nutrition/we-should-be-eating-more-tasty-little-forage-fish-study-finds/

Thanks for your recommendation on vitamin A, I’ll keep an eye open for that. :o)

And I’m quite happy, despite all the problems we’re having and facing up ahead. It seems that whenever humans need to choose between good and bad, we generally tend to choose the bad, time and time again. Still, this doesn’t affect my appreciation of life too much. It remains a great gift to be alive in this universe, as far as we can see.

I hope you can find happiness as well, wherever you may go.

I just provided some other reasons to not eat grass-fed animals. Seems you have a single sided view on all of them. A fully nuanced overview would take books to write, so I’ll abbreviate it to some counter arguments:

1. Humans should not exploit the whole planet, we’re already causing the 6th mass extinction as it is. Lots of current grass land would have forests or marshes grow back. When nature grows back instead of monocultural grass, this is not only good for biodiversity, it also captures CO2, which lowers global temperatures. Like what happened in the Little Ice Age from 1400-1800, when epidemics in Europe and the Americas reduced human population, with less land required for food production.
2. Grass requires fertilizer to restore the depletion of minerals in the soil taken out by cattle and humans. And fertilizer requires huge amounts of energy to make, heating up the planet. Further, letting other plants grow than only grasses moves animals away from rumination and associated methane production.
3. Grass fed animals are slaughtered in the same houses as where the rest of cattle is malhandled, as time is of the essence for profits, which induces violence and often leads to animal awareness during slaughtering. These animals also lead a life in captivity and have been bred to be a mere shadow of the wild animals they once were.
4. There are lots of studies and websites that support my claim. But people are funny when it comes to belief, they can (dis)believe almost anything.
5. Money generally influences people’s choices, even when they have enough of it.

As you may have guessed I don’t eat animals, the only supplement I take is vitamin B12 once a week, the rest I get enough of through my daily diet. There’s really no need to eat animal products, grass fed or not.