Jonny interviews Alex Waller of Golden Rainbows Illinois South (GRIS) about the new program, “Get Up, Get Out” – providing social interaction and physical activity for older members of the LGBTQ community in Southern Illinois. In the back half of the show, he reviews how most legislative bans on gender affirming care for trans youth have been failing in Federal appeals court until this past weekend. He reviews why judges were finding significant Constitutional challenges to the legislation and why the 6th District Court of Appeals found differently (at least temporarily) about Tennessee’s bans.

Fresh off a 10 day silent meditation retreat, Jonny sits down with Craig Gingrich-Philbrook to talk about US Supreme Court (SCOTUS) decisions that landed while he was away, particularly the Creative LLC decision. Craig is a queer theorist and scholar of Performance and Communication Studies at Southern Illinois University. He is also Jonny’s husband. In the back half of the show, they frame further discussion of the court decisions through the interpretive lens of a recent episode of Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, “Ad Astrea Per Aspera.”