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“When we talk about the unfair practices and harm done by training large language models, we usually talk about it in the past tense: how they were trained on other people’s creative work without permission. But this is an ongoing problem that’s just getting worse.” — @adactio, https://adactio.com/journal/21831

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“The worst of the internet is continuously attacking the best of the internet…If you’re using the products powered by these attacks, you’re part of the problem.

If you’re going to use generative tools powered by large language models, don’t pretend you don’t know how your sausage is made.”

Via @adactio

#GenAI #AI #LLM

https://adactio.com/journal/21831

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Do you think the development could threaten the open web? I wonder what the implications will be for content producers.

On @adactio latest post, he said it so well:

“If you’re using the products powered by these attacks, you’re part of the problem. Don’t pretend it’s cute to ask ChatGPT for something. Don’t pretend it’s somehow being technologically open-minded to continuously search for nails to hit with the latest “AI” hammers.”

https://adactio.com/journal/21831

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🔗 Denial via @adactio #Webdev #Ai #Tech

The Wikimedia Foundation, stewards of the finest projects on the web, have written about the hammering their servers are taking from the scraping bots that feed large language models.

https://adactio.com/journal/21831

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Clean-up on Isle 3.

“When we talk about the unfair practices and harm done by training large language models, we usually talk about it in the past tense: how they were trainedon other people’s creative work without permission. But this is an ongoing problem that’s just getting worse. The worst of the internet is continuouslyattacking the best of the internet. This is a distributed denial of service attack on the good parts of the World Wide Web. If you’re using the productspowered by these attacks, you’re part of the problem. Don’t pretend it’s cute to ask ChatGPT for something. Don’t pretend it’s somehow being technologicallyopen-minded to continuously search for nails to hit with the latest “AI” hammers. If you’re going to use generative tools powered by large language models,don’t pretend you don’t know how your sausage is made.”

https://adactio.com/journal/21831

@daaain I think it’s risky to assume basic competence from people who believe LLMs are on the cusp of becoming AGI

Aside: it’s also a security issue. It’s easy for an adversary to identify pages in the data set on domains that are about to expire, take those over, and replace trusted pages with pages whose text is designed to tokenise into data set poisoning.

Yet another perfect post by @adactio https://adactio.com/journal/21831

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I really like this one from Jeremy Keith (@adactio) about AI scrapper bots hammering wikimedia, open source projects, and just generally all the good parts of the web.

“When we talk about the unfair practices and harm done by training large language models, we usually talk about it in the past tense: how they were trained on other people’s creative work without permission. But this is an ongoing problem that’s just getting worse.”

https://adactio.com/journal/21831

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I just read ‘Denial’ by @adactio.com. Jeremy really holds up a mirror to those of us using generative tools powered by large language models. adactio.com/journal/21831

@adactio: “If you’re using the products powered by these attacks, you’re part of the problem. Don’t pretend it’s cute to ask ChatGPT for something. Don’t pretend it’s somehow being technologically open-minded to continuously search for nails to hit with the latest “AI” hammers”

https://adactio.com/journal/21831

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“When we talk about the unfair practices and harm done by training large language models, we usually talk about it in the past tense: how they were trained on other people’s creative work without permission. But this is an ongoing problem that’s just getting worse.

The worst of the internet is continuously attacking the best of the internet. This is a distributed denial of service attack on the good parts of the World Wide Web.”

https://adactio.com/journal/21831

#LLM #AI

@adactio

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In reply to: Re: Denial

I wrote a bit about this recently, which importantly also includes some information about what you as a website operator can do about it, namely how to look up the CIDR of the abusers’ netblocks and add denial rules into ufw if that’s what you use. I should probably expand it to cover other situations as well since not everyone can run ufw.

LinkedIn having a normal one about this post

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/tosbourn_denial-activity-7315271312640278528-AXB5?utm_[…]m=member_desktop&rcm=ACoAABh4K8QB0mG4anNTkb5VtC8d9hojek6O188

Denial | Toby Osbourn

Ha, they deleted the comment

@armstrong I’m more than happy to chat about this stuff, so long as you promise not to say that people don’t care about ethics and that the issue with bots doing whatever they want isn’t the bot makers.

@adactio, via @TheIdOfAlan and @phronetic

“If you’re using the products powered by these attacks, you’re part of the problem. Don’t pretend it’s cute to ask ChatGPT for something. Don’t pretend it’s somehow being technologically open-minded to continuously search for nails to hit with the latest “AI” hammers.

“If you’re going to use generative tools powered by large language models, don’t pretend you don’t know how your sausage is made.”

https://adactio.com/journal/21831

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I really resonate with this post by @adactio

> If you’re going to use generative tools powered by large language models, don’t pretend you don’t know how your sausage is made.

https://adactio.com/journal/21831

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Nice bit by @adactio https://adactio.com/journal/21831

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“…don’t pretend you don’t know how your (AI) sausage is made.”@adactio The wise voice in the tech room.

https://adactio.com/journal/21831

Via @scottboms Throughlines

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