Rise and Fall

RastaVari (23 March 2023) in an extremely perceptive post has pointed out that the first episode task is like Stanley Milgram's experiment. I think that the characters are professional actors who are role-playing. Otherwise, there is no way that the series can make enough revenue to cover production costs. The lift voice is by an actress (Emma Clarke). The red room interactions are for real but in a studio: and similarly with the basement interactions. The tower has been hired briefly for scene-setting and general filming. The role-playing actors compete against each other for real, even if the prize fund is imaginary and the results of the tasks are agreed beforehand. The electric shocks were faked; the dog food was ordinary palatable food; and so on. It is like playing Monopoly: no-one can buy a house in Mayfair for £200 but one suspends disbelief and the game is good fun. The series is addictive and unpredictable. I am expecting Matt to be sent to the basement in tonight's seventh episode: we shall see.

Oh dear another inane show on C4. Rise and Fall desperately tries to imitate the Traitors TV show but fails spectacularly. The rules are complex and nonsensical. The contestants are all shallow and tedious wannabes obsessed with social media. I honestly couldn't care who wins or crashes out of this show.

After much effort I finished one episode but definitely won't be watching any more. Does anyone remember C4 used to push the boundaries and produce original, good quality content? Now it's a shadow of its former self.

If you want to see a dramatic reality style contest, I'd recommend bbc Traitors.

This is nothing new, this was the same rubbish that's always on. Group of ppl, pathetic experiment...watch them fight, argue and msm hopes they will have sex, fight...utter rubbish. Especially with certain ppl on the show trying to get in to gov...messed up. It was truly rubbish. They have no ideas for something new, it's always the same old ideas, they can't think of anything new. Lazy useless writers....am just surprised it wasn't mega PC. I mean did we all the the pathetic acting, made rhem feel special, some were told there stunning...as usual.. they really wernt. There's literally nothing good to say about this show. I've read other comments that praised it..braindead.

I stumbled across Rise & Fall but thought the premise was interesting so checked it out. I was initially impressed with the production quality so even though "meeting" the contestants left me ambivalent. I am not sure how many people applied to play the game but I am guessing a lot given the fact they managed to get such an "interesting" group. Anyway I hung in there. I don't want to give away anything but the manner in which the first "leaders" were selected made me think that this was going to get ugly at some point. The first task the workers had to perform shocked me a little. I am not going to say any more, other than I can't wait for episode two!

So the basis of this show is that the 'Rulers' manage the 'Grafters'. The problem is, they don't actually do anything. All this talk about leadership, yet they don't lead, other than saying if a task goes on or not. Instead it feels like 2 different 'big brothers'.

To make this work, the rulers need much more of a say as to how the grafters live. They should budget electricity and hot water, as well as food and challenges.

The Grafters should be the ones who vote for which rulers stay in power like a democracy - don't base the show on a clique within a group of 6 people.

The rulers shouldn't leave the show when voted off, but return to the Grafters.

The idea is there, but the rules let it down massively.

Nothing happens.