The Hill

The writers did a great job of making a character so unlikable. She's a mean and angry teen and now a terrible spouse. I liked the Katoby relationship when they were loving to each other. Now it's like that part never existed.

I'm really, really fed up with Katy's attitude to life. She blames everyone for her unhappiness. Blimey if she had the start in life that most have she would have something to maybe grumble about. I was one of many to have had polio as a 3 yr old, my dad had pts and a nervous breakdown, mum had to get a man's job for a decent wage to bring up her 4 kids, I got sent away at 7 to an open air school run by stern nuns, not seeing my parents or siblings properly for 4 yrs... you either weaken or get strong...I got strong. Worked hard from 16 to 62 yrs of age. I married a fantastic man but unfortunately we didn't have children of our own...did this make me bitter and sad or blame what life gave me...no...I love my life..my experiences only made me deal with life's crisis and be flexible enough for change. I do not believe these three siblings could have such "trauma" in their lives. At least they were almost adult when their dad died, not young children. The writers should really let them grow up ! ...esp Katy...what the hell has she got to be so bitter about other than her weight. I loved Toby. She def did not deserve him. Punishing him for getting a good job, losing weight, being fit to prevent his children losing a parent. Working hard to provide, finding a house etc etc. She has always put her wishes and brother above Toby. He deserves a wife that will love him as much as he loves her.

As this show is winding down (thank God) because it is getting painful to watch. Grow the hell up (Kate) seriously !!! It's always been about her selfish self-centered ways. I like Toby, I like the two of them together. I thought it was pretty damn selfish of her to call her boss! Good God this show DEFINITELY needs to end and NO no spin-off shows. Let it die peacefully.

She has been portrayed as super selfish and it has started to irritate now.

The season started well but it feels like drowning in the end.

Kate and Toby didnt deserve this much screen time.

In this episode we find out that Toby suddenly got super rich and he can suddenly afford not only a nice apartment in downtown San Francisco but also afford to buy a multi-million dollar house outright. Good for him that he suddenly got rich by simply getting an office job.

Meanwhile, Kate in this episode acts totally entitled, self centered and obnoxious but then again it's not much different than how Randall and Kevin behave in most episodes. People talk about how Jack and Rebecca were perfect parents but all their three children turned out horrible without an exception so maybe they weren't such great parents after all.