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Thin Ice

Original title: The Convincer
  • 2011
  • R
  • 1h 33m
IMDb RATING
6.2/10
5.5K
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Alan Arkin, Greg Kinnear, Michelle Arthur, Michael Paul Levin, Joe Minjares, David Harbour, Kathryn Lawrey, and Scott Crouch in Thin Ice (2011)
An insurance agent looking for a way out of frigid Wisconsin is blackmailed by an unstable locksmith in the theft of a rare violin that belongs to a retired farmer.
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A dishonest insurance salesman's life quickly disintegrates during a Wisconsin winter when he teams up with a psychopath to steal a rare violin at the home of a reclusive farmer.A dishonest insurance salesman's life quickly disintegrates during a Wisconsin winter when he teams up with a psychopath to steal a rare violin at the home of a reclusive farmer.A dishonest insurance salesman's life quickly disintegrates during a Wisconsin winter when he teams up with a psychopath to steal a rare violin at the home of a reclusive farmer.

  • Director
    • Jill Sprecher
  • Writers
    • Jill Sprecher
    • Karen Sprecher
  • Stars
    • Greg Kinnear
    • Billy Crudup
    • Alan Arkin
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  • IMDb RATING
    6.2/10
    5.5K
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    • Director
      • Jill Sprecher
    • Writers
      • Jill Sprecher
      • Karen Sprecher
    • Stars
      • Greg Kinnear
      • Billy Crudup
      • Alan Arkin
    • 37User reviews
    • 58Critic reviews
    • 60Metascore
  • See production info at IMDbPro
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    Greg Kinnear
    Greg Kinnear
    • Mickey Prohaska
    Billy Crudup
    Billy Crudup
    • Randy
    Alan Arkin
    Alan Arkin
    • Gorvy Hauer
    Lea Thompson
    Lea Thompson
    • Jo Ann Prohaska
    John Paul Gamoke
    • Man at Coffee Shop
    David Harbour
    David Harbour
    • Bob Egan
    Jennifer Edwards-Hughes
    • Sherri
    • (as Jennifer M. Edwards)
    Scott Crouch
    • Casino Emcee
    Peter Moore
    Peter Moore
    • Phil Peters
    Michelle Hutchison
    Michelle Hutchison
    • Judy Vandenhoevel
    James Michael Detmar
    James Michael Detmar
    • Glen Vandenhoevel
    • (as James Detmar)
    Michael Paul Levin
    Michael Paul Levin
    • Chuck Stankel
    Kathryn Lawrey
    • Hotel Clerk
    Joe Minjares
    • Hotel Manager
    Michelle Arthur
    Michelle Arthur
    • Karla Gruenke
    Peter Thoemke
    Peter Thoemke
    • Frank Richie
    Bob Balaban
    Bob Balaban
    • Leonard Dahl
    Alan Johnson
    Alan Johnson
    • Bill Morton
    • Director
      • Jill Sprecher
    • Writers
      • Jill Sprecher
      • Karen Sprecher
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    User reviews37

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    7witster18

    loads of late twists help this slightly above average fargo-esque flick

    "Thin Ice", much like Fargo, is a murder-story set in a snowy-midwestern town. The lead character is an immoral salesmen who's life is literally falling apart around him.

    The good news is that "Thin Ice" provides the audience with an even-more-twisty-tale. The performances are steady across the board. Now, I'm not saying this is as good or better than Fargo, IT'S NOT! But, it's a good movie.

    The twists in the last 30 minutes are hefty and hard to scrutinize. There are a few aspects of the plot that were a little predictable, but for the most part the twists in the end were well-concealed and somewhat believable.

    The film moves fairly slow, but never came off to me as boring. It doesn't really have any style to speak of, and the other director elements are nothing special. Greg Kinnear, Alan Arkin, and Billy Crudip do a fine job with an average script that is completely void of comedic moments(style and comedy were two of Fargo's strengths).

    The plot twists in the last third of the film DO set this one apart, and while the film DOES lack style and comedy, the acting helps keep it afloat.

    I'd say this deserves a bit higher ranking than it's current 6.1 here, but it also isn't something that you should feel the need to move up to the top of your list.

    A Coen Brothers story without some of the Coen Bro's trademarks.

    I'm stuck between 6 and 7 here at 65/100, but rounding up and taking into consideration the low 6.1 score.

    You might like this if you liked: American Gun(not as good), Fargo(better), Burn After Reading(about even), and Millions(not as good).
    7blanche-2

    Fargo-esque in a way

    I have to say I really enjoyed "Thin Ice" even though it had a few problems. It certainly didn't have any cast problems: Greg Kinnear, who somehow always surprises me; Billy Crudup, whom I adore; and Alan Arkin, an absolute treasure. Also on hand were Lea Thompson, David Harbour, and Jennifer Edwards Hughes.

    The movie is compared to Fargo because it takes place in Wisconsin in the winter and the major theme is a guy doing something dishonest and getting in way over his head.

    The comparisons really stop there. This is a good movie on its own. It's not perfect but it is entertaining.

    Insurance agent Mickey (Greg Kinnear) is blackmailed by Locksmith Randy (Billy Crudup) over the theft of a valuable violin owned by Gorvy Hauer (Alan Arkin).

    Mickey (Kinnear) is an insurance man, and when we first see him, he's giving a lecture at an insurance convention. While he's there his wallet is stolen and of course, it contained credit cards. But he gets the wallet back with the cash gone and the cards intact.

    While he's at the convention, he meets a man, Bob Egan (Harbour) who hasn't taken his insurance exam yet. He has been offered a job with an unfavorable split; Mickey betters it and hires him.

    Bob is good at his job and introduces Mickey to a potential client, Gorvy (Arkin) who lives on a farm. He has tons of stuff, a lot of which is from his ill sister, and Bob wants him to have insurance. While he's there, Mickey sees an appraisal for a violin of Gorvy's. The appraisal is $25,000. Mickey decides to steal it.

    What follows is one complication after another, which involves Mickey with an ex-con (Crudup) and some other unpleasantness.

    Apparently this film was taken from the director and edited without his input. The film has imperfections, but the script by the Sprechers is good, possibly inspired by Fargo and a couple of other films.

    The acting was wonderful on all accounts, but I have to say Crudup was amazing. It was a showier role than Kinnear's, and though Arkin was excellent, I had seen him do that kind of thing before. Crudup as a bad-tempered sleaze was outstanding.

    Highly recommended. You can pick a film like this apart but it's so entertaining, why bother.
    Rabbit-Reviews

    Thin Ice, Thick Story...

    What I thought is going to be a black humor comedy with a twist, turned out to be something much more. First of all, as many movies before almost the entire movie is set in snow ridden Wisconsin (death trip), and I love just how that setting immediately sets the atmosphere of the flick. With two experienced leads Greg Kinnear and Alan Arkin, who already worked together in a similar movie Little Miss Sunshine, Thin Ice is a thriller comedy with a weird up vibe involving scams, murder and black humor. Most of all I enjoyed the character of Mickey Prohaska masterfully played by Greg Kinnear, an average shifty looking insurance salesman who finds himself in quite a pickle... Since I would like you to fully enjoy the movie, I will not bother you much with anything else in fear that I might spoil the viewing pleasure.

    Mickey Prohaska is an insurance salesman looking to move from freezing Wisconsin to some sunnier state. He has a silver tongue and a well thought-out approach to his future customers. Self-confident and always in control he decides to show how it's done to his new employee by helping him lock a deal with a forgetful elderly gentlemen Gorvy Hauer. While at his house he accidentally discovers that Gorvy has a very valuable violin, that he currently uses to play fetch with his dog. And then and there the plan is born in Mickey Prohaska's head, a plan that will get him out of snowy Wisconsin but he did not realize that sometimes things go wrong, very wrong. As events unfold we see him losing control over the situation and accusations of murder, heist and embezzlement are pending... Will Mickey manage to talk his way out of this situation (and should we want him to?) is up to you to find out. Enjoy.

    Check out my review site Rabbit-Reviews.com for movies that are worth watching, Rabbit out...
    7bob-rutzel-1

    Pretty Good

    Insurance agent Mickey (Greg Kinnear) is blackmailed by Locksmith Randy (Billy Crudup) over the theft of a valuable violin owned by Gorvy Hauer (Alan Arkin).

    The movie setting is winter in Wisconsin and although we see some ice and snow from time to time, we wished there were more wintry scenes. You see, they kind of help cool us when we are watching this in the summer heat wave we have now. Bummer.

    Returning to our story, we see that Mickey is in debt and is willing to steal Gorvy's violin as Gorvy isn't aware of the true value. Enter Randy and the cover-up begins, but both are surprised by a neighbor who feels something isn't right and threatens to call the police. What to do? What to do?

    That is as far as I will go because the rest is complicated. We like Mickey and hope he can find a way to make things right. However, because most of this happens in the beginning, we see that there is a lot more story (read movie) to go and things get even more complicated and go progressively worse for Mickey. Okay, okay, I went a little further but, we see there is enough time for Mickey to make things right. That is our hope.

    There are many twists and turns in here and you need to keep up. We keep rooting for Mickey, but things go further and further south for him. Greg Kinnear plays Mickey to perfection. We feel his pain even though he did something wrong. The acting performances of the rest of the cast are perfect, but it is Mickey we care about and he needs to find a way out of the mess he helped create. We can only hope

    We see Randy as a normal person, but when he gets surprised by something that doesn't go right, he loses it big time for a while and then he reverts back to being quiet and normal again. This happens 2-times in the movie. I guess this is the comic relief within. Pretty good though. Kind of reminds us of William H. Macy in FARGO when he beats the hell out of his vehicle when his plans are upset. These temper tantrums are great scenes. Kudos.

    The key to the whole movie is Arkin's Gorvy, who is naïve and agreeable to insurance suggestions by Mickey's new agent hire, Bob (David Harbour). Alan Arkin is becoming a real acting treasure in his later years and we like his screen presence. Okay, okay, the real key to the movie is Mickey and his greed. You will see why. Okay? Tough room.

    Violence: Yes. Sex: No. Nudity: No. Language: No.
    8johnsullivan724

    Good movie, great acting

    It takes some time to get going, granted, but when it does it's good, real good. Greg Kinnear is fantastic as is Billy Crudup and Alan Arkin. It pulls you into it's eerie intensity and takes you on a bit of a ride, sometimes comical. This is listed as a comedy??? Somewhat, but more a crime drama with some comedy. I actually felt real uncomfortable with the tension created in this film and how it develops is really cool. btw -I know it was edited from the original version of "The Convincer" and people who seem close to, or fans of, the Sprecher's, knock it pretty bad. Understandably, I guess in a way , but for most of us seeing it in the newer edit, like I said it's a good movie. Jus' sayin'.

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    • Trivia
      At first titled The Convincer, the initial edit of the film was screened in January 2011 at the Sundance Film Festival. Distributors ATO and production company Werc Werk Works demanded that director/writer Jill Sprecher make sweeping changes to the film from the version shown at Sundance in order to speed the film up. The production company claimed that Sprecher "refused to be part of the process," while she stated she was never allowed to review the distributor's notes to make any comments on them. The revisions were made without her input, replacing the original composer, Alex Wurman, and the original editor, Stephen Mirrione. Sprecher was prevented from speaking to the press, but said she is "heartbroken and devastated," wanted to remove her name from the film, but was not allowed to do so. The completely re-cut film was retitled Thin Ice. Sprecher reportedly learned of the name through the Internet and not from the production company.

      The Convincer cut received generally positive reviews from critics at the Sundance Film Festival. The re-cut Thin Ice received uniformly negative responses ("disappointing," "poorly edited," "a stinker") after screenings at B-List festivals in October 2011. Thin Ice received positive responses from critics with a "fresh" rating of 69% on Rotten Tomatoes, based on 59 reviews. Following the further festival run, the film was released theatrically in February 2012.
    • Quotes

      [first lines]

      Mickey Prohaska: [narrating] There is a saying. Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see. Good advice. People will try to convince you of anything.

    • Alternate versions
      The film premiered out of competition at the 2011 Sundance Film Festival under its original title "The Convincer"; that version was edited by Stephen Mirrione and featured an original score by Alex Wurman and Bela Fleck. It was subsequently reedited by Lee Percy and re-scored by Jeff Danna. The new version has been retitled Thin Ice (2011)
    • Soundtracks
      Leave Our Worries
      Written by Christopher A. Corley and Jon D'Agostino

      Performed by Serendipity

      Published by Astonishing Music (BMI) /

      Music Expressions ASCAP

      Courtesy of Crucial Music

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    • Release date
      • October 1, 2013 (France)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Official site
      • ATO Pictures (United States)
    • Language
      • English
    • Also known as
      • The Convincer
    • Filming locations
      • Greyhound Station - 166 University Ave W, St. Paul, Minnesota, USA
    • Production companies
      • ATO Pictures
      • Werc Werk Works
      • Spare Room Productions
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    • Gross US & Canada
      • $790,421
    • Opening weekend US & Canada
      • $183,527
      • Feb 19, 2012
    • Gross worldwide
      • $790,421
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    • Runtime
      • 1h 33m(93 min)
    • Color
      • Color
    • Sound mix
      • Dolby Digital
    • Aspect ratio
      • 2.35 : 1

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