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Tali-Ihantala 1944

  • 2007
  • 1h 57m
IMDb RATING
5.8/10
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Tali-Ihantala 1944 (2007)
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In the summer of 1944, the Finnish Forces must defend Finland from the invading Soviet Red Army.In the summer of 1944, the Finnish Forces must defend Finland from the invading Soviet Red Army.In the summer of 1944, the Finnish Forces must defend Finland from the invading Soviet Red Army.

  • Directors
    • Åke Lindman
    • Sakari Kirjavainen
  • Writers
    • Stefan Forss
    • Benedict Zilliacus
    • Esko Salervo
  • Stars
    • Rauno Ahonen
    • Mikkomarkus Ahtiainen
    • Frank Biermann
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • IMDb RATING
    5.8/10
    2K
    YOUR RATING
    • Directors
      • Åke Lindman
      • Sakari Kirjavainen
    • Writers
      • Stefan Forss
      • Benedict Zilliacus
      • Esko Salervo
    • Stars
      • Rauno Ahonen
      • Mikkomarkus Ahtiainen
      • Frank Biermann
    • 18User reviews
    • 6Critic reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • See production info at IMDbPro
    • Awards
      • 4 nominations total

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    Rauno Ahonen
    • Lieutenant Colonel
    Mikkomarkus Ahtiainen
    Frank Biermann
    Jussi Brech
    Mikko Bredenberg
    • Captain Carl-Birger Kvikant
    Riko Eklundh
    • Colonel Sven Björkman
    Marc Gassot
    • Sergeant Reino Lehväslaiho
    Marcus Groth
    • Major General Ruben Lagus
    Johan Hallström
    • Second Lieutenant Thorbjörnsson
    Kari Hevossaari
    • Lieutenant Puhakka
    Aku Hirviniemi
    Antti Holma
    Jani Honkaselkä
    Markku Hyvönen
    • Lance Corporal Ville Väisänen
    Janne Hyytiäinen
    Janne Hyytiäinen
    • Major of Air-force
    Tatu Hämäläinen
    Viggo Idman
    • Lieutenant Stig Hästö
    Olli Ikonen
    • Major General Einar Vihma
    • Directors
      • Åke Lindman
      • Sakari Kirjavainen
    • Writers
      • Stefan Forss
      • Benedict Zilliacus
      • Esko Salervo
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    User reviews18

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    6David Igra

    Where's the story?

    As always when making a film out of historical events one is challenged with the task of trying to engage the audience, usually by adding characters or embellishing characters already available thus allowing the viewer to relate and or follow the characters throughout the film.

    This film is bold enough not to fall for such obvious flirtations with the audience, it has little more story than the historical facts and the characters that appear do so just very briefly. All too briefly for anyone in the audience to remember little more than a name, maybe a rank.

    All in all it becomes a rather confusing experience with names and ranks and orders flying around in the Finnish forest with the only exception of a Russian tank blowing up, or was it a Finnish tank?
    8teppo-2

    An unconventional movie for war buffs

    Tali-Ihantala 1944 isn't an ordinary movie in any sense, really. There's no continuation with the characters, as the movie is basically split into several parts, between which there is no direct correlation or continuation. The parts are only woven together lightly by some "narrative" cut-scenes between them, explaining some of the major movements and events in the battles, but even so most of the time the events portrayed don't really tie in to the "large scale events" explained by the cut-scenes.

    As the different parts have different characters each time, there's no character development or any major social interaction. For a large part, the actors aren't really top notch either - an unfortunate side effect of this being a Finnish film, as there simply aren't many good Finnish actors. But it has to be said that there's not even that much "real" acting to be done the way this film is made.

    The main feature of the movie is the documentary-like battle scenes. The events depicted are based on real occurrences during the Tali-Ihantala battles, taken from various sources.

    Of particular interest to WW2 "hardware" buffs is the part about the Finnish Armored forces. It features many authentic WW2 armored vehicles. The depicted T-34 tanks are all authentic, and so are the StuG III G assault guns. That aside, the KV tanks shown are mock-ups if memory serves, since while the real KVs that took part in those events still exist in a museum, they are not in a running condition. There's some other details not spot on as well, but that's a topic for another time.

    One thing to note is that it's obvious the movie makers didn't have access to all that many tanks, as it can clearly be seen the same tanks are reused to portray tanks on both sides. It's not a big issue given the authenticity of the tanks to begin with though, and someone not more familiar with it all probably wouldn't even notice.

    Most of the other battle scenes are infantry-related, which comes as no surprise since not only are they the easiest and cheapest to make, but also because infantry was the main feature of the Finnish army, since armored and air forces were very limited in size. These infantry scenes are decently made, even if nothing spectacular. Still, for many battles I ended up wishing for more sheer manpower on the screen, both for the visuals of it as well as historical accuracy.

    Overall it's clear this isn't a huge-budget production. The whole film was funded in a rather unconventional fashion to make it possible to begin with. It also has to be said that indeed for the Average Joe this movie might not offer much, but for war buffs it should certainly be worth watching. Even for the average viewer, perhaps more names and details would've helped with immersing into the events more, and for war buffs this could've helped with finding more information on the depicted events.

    It's a mixed review, I know (it's my first), so to summarize I'll just say that even with the budget-imposed limitations and often less than stellar acting, it was well worth watching for someone familiar with the events and with a keen interest on the whole war era, and I'll certainly buy the DVD as well, hopefully soon. For those with no real interest in war history and somewhat plain depiction of events however, it's probably best to look elsewhere, or at least make sure you know what to expect.

    I'll add as an afterthought that I would have wished for a depiction of the Finnish Air Force's operations, but sadly it was not really possible with the film's style and budget (even the small part about the German flight group Kuhlmey is rather crude). The FAF's part and actions in the war are not very widely known even within Finland, so they'd deserve some publicity.
    5tomimt

    More of a documentary than a movie.

    If you are expecting your standard war film with a overly melodramatic love story plot line and all the other standard war film plot devices you are looking from the wrong place: Tali-Ihantala 1944 is more of a documentary trying to portray all the military units, which took part of the battle, which turned the war luck in Finland/Russia war to the advantage of Finland.

    For a movie there is just too many characters in the story, which are left to the background of the greater drama of warfare. The film shows quite effectively how the military units work together and solely. There's very little sugar coating of the war, so in a word, you could have made three or four different war films from the material portrayed here in. The biggest issue here is, that this would have worked much better as a documentary series, with each episode concentrating on different units and key people. Now the film is too heavy, yet still too short.
    6Stenu

    So, another Finnish war movie

    First of all, I have to say that I had huge expectations about the movie. I went to theater to see some mind-blowing action. I was hoping that Åke Lindman had made something spectacular as his last movie. I also believed in his directing talents. Now I sadly have to say that the movie didn't fulfill my expectations.

    The movie was a bit bouncing: Going there, doing that, coming back and going again. Different people fought in different places and sometimes it was hard to follow what was happening as a whole. Well this wasn't too disturbing as the movie still was entertaining. Especially all tank-scenes were amazing. The lack of money, which was clearly visible, was maybe the most disruptive thing in the movie. As mentioned in the movie, there were about 250 cannons and mortars, plus bomber planes, targeting the Tali-Ihantala area. But when the "big fight" came, it looked like about 10 guns were bombing the woods with smoke grenades (And I can say this because I have served in mortar company in the Finnish army). I'm sure it looked like that because there were not enough money to make it look realistic. I was also hoping more soldiers running in the woods because hey, it was supposed to be the biggest fight in the northern Europe!

    Now the rating of the movie. I was balancing between 6 and 7. I would have wanted to give it 7 points, but as I was thinking it, the movie actually left me disappointed. It wasn't as astonishing as I wanted. It was just another Finnish war movie, and even Tuntematon sotilas from the year 1955 and especially The Winter war from 1989 are much better movies than this one.

    So, should you go to watch Tali-Ihantala? a) Finnish movie business needs your money, so YES! b) If you like Finnish war movies, definitely yes. But if you decide to go watch it, don't have too big expectations so you won't be disappointed.

    P.S. Not a single mortar was shown during the movie. Why? Glad they mentioned them though ;)
    8Shaolin_Apu

    A Monument, created to be as it should stand

    Best thing about watching Tali-Ihantala is that you get to watch a different type of war movie after a while. The old school movie mandatorily adds women and children to plotwise useless roles to create the so called drama, but in Tali-Ihantala you get no Rambos, no cheese, no political ubercorrectness and nothing else but just war as it realistically should be, within production limitations of course.

    The barrenness of no prolonged drama sequences and no main characters may strike some people as cinematographically unwise, but Tali-Ihantala is not the first war movie to use such a feature. Similar approach was used in "Thin Red Line" where there was no main characters either, but Tali-Ihantala tries not to be artsy and go too far. It comes close to a documentary but, in fact, it still is far from being a documentary.

    Another film Tali-Ihantala is very close to is the "Longest Day", although the Soviet Union side is only shown as the enemy and only Finns will have any dialogue. The strenghts of the movie include fact that every main character has a historical counterpart, and a lot of authentic equipment was used in the making. The weaknesses are the limited production resources but every actor seem to do his best regardless of how amateur he is.

    It is a great film, more close to actual history than "Tuntematon Sotilas" if you just allow yourself to accept it.

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    • Trivia
      The premise was to make a film about the battle itself, filmed in a documentary style. Therefore the story has an episodic structure and no real lead character. Co-director Sakari Kirjavainen explains that in many scenes the camera "just happens to be there".
    • Goofs
      The gun of the Sturmgeschütz does not recoil.
    • Quotes

      [last lines]

      Mannerheim: Perhaps I should go to bed.

    • Soundtracks
      Oi kallis Suomenmaa
      Composed by Timo Hietala / Trad.

      Lyrics by Heikki Klemetti

      Arranged by Timo Hietala

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    • Release date
      • December 7, 2007 (Finland)
    • Country of origin
      • Finland
    • Official site
      • Official site
    • Languages
      • Finnish
      • Swedish
      • German
    • Also known as
      • Battle for Finland
    • Filming locations
      • Germany
    • Production company
      • Åke Lindman Film-Productions
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    • Budget
      • €3,200,000 (estimated)
    • Gross worldwide
      • $2,477,250
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    Tech specs

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    • Runtime
      • 1h 57m(117 min)
    • Color
      • Color
    • Sound mix
      • Dolby Digital
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.85 : 1

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