Empires: The Greeks - Crucible of Civilization

A great documentary for the ancient Greeks.The history of the people who gave democracy and culture to all the world.Liam Neeson narrate how was the life of the most clever people in the world:Greeks.It is very interesting to know how Greeks create democracy and this film gives us the chance.Every people who wants to learn about the beginning of the history must see this documentary.Do not forget that Greeks are the oldest nation in the entire world!

This series fails for the simple reason that, while it cannot be expected to cover the topic comprehensively, it should at least provide a reasonably balanced and accurate account. It doesn't. This is despite the use of an impressive array of academics; one can only assume they were not involved in the shaping of the final product.

There are some jaw-dropping omissions, especially given that the title mentions 'Greeks' rather than 'Athenians'. In terms of influence on western civilization, there is no doubt that Athens was by far the most important of the Greek city states. However, if this documentary were to be the only source of information on Greece in the classical period, one would be (falsely) led to believe that (1) almost all the great Greeks were Athenians, (2) that practically everything about Sparta was bad, (3) that city states such as Thebes were of little or no significance (there was little or no mention of many important states), and (4) that the Battles of Thermopylae and Plataea never happened.

This last point is particularly unforgivable considering how much Thermopylae continues to be discussed today (though too many people omit the fact that it wasn't just 300 Spartans who died there - the 700 Thespians deserve just as much credit). To say that the Persian threat ended at Salamis in 480 BC is just plain wrong; an army of at least 80,000 Persians remained on Greek soil and was defeated by a Greek army under Spartan leadership in 479 BC, with Sparta providing the largest contingent.

While Athenian democracy is rightly lauded, no mention is made of the fact women were not only excluded but expected to keep quiet too (unlike Sparta where women were not only allowed to express their views but were also taught to read and write). Further, these Athenian male democrats owned lots of slaves and suppressed (sometimes ruthlessly) dozens of previously independent Greek city states to build their empire.

The treatment of The Peloponnesian War is all too brief and uneven. While quite some time is spent on the plague, the Sicillian expedition, and the prosecution of the generals, no mention is made of the heavy involvement of major states such as Corinth and Thebes (as part of the Spartan-led Peloponnesian League opposing the Athenian empire) who wanted to raze Athens to the ground at the end of the war (they were prevented from doing by Sparta), nor the reason for the eventual involvement of the Persians. Also hard to fathom is the failure to have at least a brief look at that most fascinating of characters, the Athenian statesman and general Alcibiades, a key figure during the war (and surely worth a documentary of his own).

Even if the series was re-titled 'The Athenians', it would be hard to excuse the above sins of omission. Without proper context, it is impossible to properly appreciate the influence of the Greeks on western civilization. Sadly, this documentary is more like a series of sometimes distorted reproductions of random scenes from the classical period.

The production for this series, judging from episode 3, is rather poor, despite having star Liam Neeson narrating. The sets are dull, with great historical figures like Pericles and Socrates portrayed as a sort of wax actor or CGI portrait that is filmed from different angles while being still. These images are reused many times, adding boredom to the already dull and rudimentary CGI.

Pacing is slow, with lots of scenic shots of the Acropolis and other historical sites, but the amount of actual greek footage is quite limited, shots are unimaginative and reused abundantly. The text is grandiloquent but never poignant; historically it seems superficial to me, but I am not an expert. I came to see more about the life and times of Socrates, but the philosophy themes are more superficial than the historical ones. It seems the producers have only a very basic knowledge of greek philosophy. Quotes are misattributed, for example, sayings are attributed directly to Socrates, who never wrote, and Plato, who made him a character in his philosophical dialogues, is never mentioned.

So the philosophical themes are very bland. Also I've been in the places and I made better shots than the ones that can be seen in this program. That some people find this "enlightening" really makes me think that the standards for American history shows are quite low.

Liam Neeson has such a wonderful voice. What a grand man he is.

I'm sure this documentary is good for some people but I'm not the audience for this movie. Series. Whatever it is. They reuse a LOT of footage that they shot; like, actors in their costumes. It just loses its flair after the 4th time I've seen that man in that costume point over there four times.

Another well put together PBS documentary. And it certainly doesn't hurt to have Liam Neeson narrate. I certainly learned more in this documentary about the rise and fall of Greek civilization than I recall from school.