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Forgive and Forget

  • TV Movie
  • 2000
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  • 1h 40m
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6.1/10
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Laura Fraser, Steve John Shepherd, and John Simm in Forgive and Forget (2000)
ComedyDramaRomance

In this riveting dramedy, David's world is ripped apart when he realizes he is losing his best friend of fourteen years to his new girlfriend.In this riveting dramedy, David's world is ripped apart when he realizes he is losing his best friend of fourteen years to his new girlfriend.In this riveting dramedy, David's world is ripped apart when he realizes he is losing his best friend of fourteen years to his new girlfriend.

  • Director
    • Aisling Walsh
  • Writer
    • Mark Burt
  • Stars
    • John Simm
    • Steve John Shepherd
    • Laura Fraser
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  • IMDb RATING
    6.1/10
    726
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    • Director
      • Aisling Walsh
    • Writer
      • Mark Burt
    • Stars
      • John Simm
      • Steve John Shepherd
      • Laura Fraser
    • 26User reviews
    • 3Critic reviews
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    John Simm
    John Simm
    • Theo
    Steve John Shepherd
    Steve John Shepherd
    • David O'Neil
    Laura Fraser
    Laura Fraser
    • Hannah
    Maurice Roëves
    Maurice Roëves
    • Michael O'Neil
    Ger Ryan
    • Ruth O'Neil
    Meera Syal
    Meera Syal
    • Judith Adams
    Stephen Graham
    Stephen Graham
    • John
    Roger Griffiths
    • Carlton
    Huggy Leaver
    • Paul
    Charlie De'Ath
    Charlie De'Ath
    • Alex
    Isabella Marsh
    • Gabby
    Jonathan Slinger
    Jonathan Slinger
    • Carl
    Nikki Amuka-Bird
    Nikki Amuka-Bird
    • Nicky
    Annette Bentley
    • Michelle
    June Page
    • Carol
    Paul Panting
    • Gerry
    Jenny Paterson
    • Caroline
    Jack Pierce
    Jack Pierce
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    1synergistic

    More Forgettable than Forgivable!

    Note: contains spoiler.... 'Forgive and Forget' is on balance, more forgettable than forgivable. Made for Scottish Television (and a boring, Scot version of a BBC drama) by a married female director from a screenplay by a hetero male film student and starring a hetero actor (get a clue here!), the story goes on interminably about how a working class Brit is hopelessly in the closet and jealous of his best mate's live-in girlfriend, whom he's out to undercut by exploiting her paranoia and dislike of his male camaraderie with her boyfriend. It's the British version of a Jerry Springer mentality in the working class subculture which leads, inexorably, to a disastrous coming out on a true-confessions-type TV show called (would you believe) 'Forgive and Forget.' What's sad is that our hero is so naive (and hopelessly inarticulate) that he thinks coming out to his romantic interest on TV will somehow produce a happy ending. No way, Jose. Hetero Sex Object wields a lead pipe and almost kills the guy before girlfriend, appearing miraculously just in time to stop him from murder, leads hetero heartthrob off stage (and, we imagine, to a 'happily ever after'). By this point, since she's already dumped him, she's almost a deus ex machina, and her appearance has no motivation except to save male heterosexuality from life imprisonment (where, no doubt, he would be forced to become some macho guy's 'sex object'). Sorry, but I really didn't like the 'film' (shot on video, no less), including the videography, which was brightly lit and boringly, competently uninteresting. Next time, I'll think twice about believing the hype (here's a clue: the video retailer--whose blurb rating the film I didn't question--is also the film's distributor) and give a movie the old eyeball before showing it to my friends. If you want a far better, and yet more gritty story of coming out in a British working class context, try 'Beautiful Thing'.
    8RichardvonLust

    Don't be put off by the critics - this is unforgettably powerful.

    Neither pro nor anti gay, this powerful drama is set to make us think. A young man is secretly gay, he has loved his childhood 'mate' all his life but can never reveal his true feelings to anyone. His father is a bigot and the rest of his family are oblivious to his needs. His friend is equally unaware of the intensity of his feelings but eventually the truth is revealed under dramatic circumstances. Secret passions, deceitful relationships, bigotry and social pressures to conform, the paradox between between platonic love and sexual need; these are just some of the issues very skillfully handled in this unforgettable drama. The ending may frustrate or even disturb you - but Forgive and Forget will certainly leave you with the feeling that such sentiments are too seldom practiced in our modern selfish culture. Definitely worth seeing.
    9snrobertson

    Great film!

    I'd like to defend this as a wonderful film, one of the best I've seen in 5 years or so. Other reviewers obviously have a different take on the film and I can respect those views but I'd suggest a different interpretation from the one they present:

    The story revolves around David, a handsome and macho construction foreman who is in love (secretly) with his childhood best friend Theo. David has acclimated to casual sex on the side as long as his primary emotional bond with Theo is intact. When Theo becomes seriously involved with a woman David is in a crisis.

    David O'Neil is a man who has reached the age of 23 without having had an adolescence. Like a lot of us gays he has hidden his true feelings until well past the era when there's something of a 'safety net' around him in the form of friends and older siblings who help most teens navigate treacherous the waters of love and the pain of rejection. David has the usual flaw which comes with growing up gay in a homophobic society. He's been prevented from gaining emotional maturity by expressing love for the person he loves when he's 14 or 16 years old. So he's making the sort of blunders which most people make when they are 16 years old, though unfortunately with adult consequences.

    I think Aisling Walsh (director) and Mark Burt (writer) are highly sympathetic with David's plight and they understand him quite well. The film is unflinching in its treatment of its subject and certainly does not end with a rosy soft focus closure. We last see David bloody and rejected by most everyone, and yet smiling and saying, "This has been the best day of my life." That is the central theme of the film.

    Steve John Shepherd gives a riveting wonderful performance as David. John Simm (as Theo) is one of the most effortlessly naturalistic actors I've seen, comparable to Russel Crowe in his early-90s Australian films. Acting does not get much better than this.

    -Steve Robertson
    2guilfisher-1

    Puts Gay Pride back about 50 years

    This 2000 made for TV film is a sham for gay people. It promotes gay bashing, degrades coming out and gives homosexuals a dated persecuted life style. I could have sworn when I saw this trite work, it must have been done in 1960. For certainly gay issues deserve better than this dribble. The fault lies in the writing and directing. Mark Burt writes a trivial and lack-less script with absolutely no compassion for any of the major characters. Aisling Walsh, a woman, directs with no understanding of how to bring any hope to her leading players. She certainly has no understanding of gay life. If she herself is gay, than shame on her. If not, she needs to go to a gay bar or march in a gay pride day parade and surround herself with today's gay people.

    The actors do what they can to give believability to this nonsense. Steve John Shepherd plays the young man tortured over his homosexuality. Afraid to come out to his best friend and to his parents. Why he chooses to do so in such a public way, beats me. But he does. I'll say no more as to the outcome and let you see for yourself. Believe me, you won't be surprised. John Simm, hardly, in my eyes, worth all the suffering, is the attraction to Shepherd as his best friend. Simm has his own demons to deal with. And again, you really don't care. He earns his oats. As the unsympathetic and sometimes just down right annoying girl-friend to Simm, Laura Fraser is a real possessive bitch (can I say that word?) A control freak, she deserves losing any guy who would put up with her antics and games. I was hoping she'd lose the guy in the end. Again, see what happens yourself. Again, no surprise.

    Then there are the parents that contradict themselves all over the place. An overbearing dad, played by Maurice Roeves, knows nothing but anger and screams through most of the film. What's with this guy? Sometimes overacting, he suddenly has all this tear jerking at the end? And you don't believe it anyway. "Let him go", says he. I would have been gone from this dad a long time ago. And the mother, played by Ger Ryan, sits and bakes pies. Probes her son most of the time to see what's wrong and when she discovers the truth, over public TV, completely disowns him. She begs him to be honest and then slaps him in the face. Give me a break.

    I liked Shepherd's work in this and wish he could have had a decent venue to work with. For he gave the most convincing performance. Simm was one level, Fraser was just awful as were the parents.

    I give this dated movie a 2 star for Shepherd's performance attempt.
    8Jed from Toronto

    From the Sublime to the Ridiculous

    I gave this movie an "8" when I voted for it. It has a tight script and it's extremely well-acted, especially by the closeted gay actor. The ending was thoroughly stupid. It is still worth watching, but be prepared for an ending that is more 1963 than 2003.

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    • Release date
      • January 3, 2000 (United Kingdom)
    • Country of origin
      • United Kingdom
    • Language
      • English
    • Also known as
      • Forgive and forget - Pardonner et oublier
    • Filming locations
      • London, England, UK
    • Production company
      • Scottish Television Enterprises
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      • 1h 40m(100 min)
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