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8 femmes 1/2

Original title: 8 ½ Women
  • 1999
  • 12
  • 1h 58m
IMDb RATING
5.6/10
4.3K
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8 femmes 1/2 (1999)
Dark ComedyComedyDrama

Following the death of a mother, a father and son open up their very own harem in their Genevan estate after watching 8½ (1963).Following the death of a mother, a father and son open up their very own harem in their Genevan estate after watching 8½ (1963).Following the death of a mother, a father and son open up their very own harem in their Genevan estate after watching 8½ (1963).

  • Director
    • Peter Greenaway
  • Writer
    • Peter Greenaway
  • Stars
    • John Standing
    • Matthew Delamere
    • Vivian Wu
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  • IMDb RATING
    5.6/10
    4.3K
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    • Director
      • Peter Greenaway
    • Writer
      • Peter Greenaway
    • Stars
      • John Standing
      • Matthew Delamere
      • Vivian Wu
    • 44User reviews
    • 31Critic reviews
    • 36Metascore
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    • Awards
      • 2 nominations total

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    John Standing
    John Standing
    • Philip Emmenthal
    Matthew Delamere
    Matthew Delamere
    • Storey Emmenthal
    Vivian Wu
    Vivian Wu
    • Kito
    Toni Collette
    Toni Collette
    • Griselda…
    Annie Shizuka Inoh
    Annie Shizuka Inoh
    • Simato
    • (as Shizuka Inoh)
    Barbara Sarafian
    Barbara Sarafian
    • Clothilde
    Kirina Mano
    • Mio
    Amanda Plummer
    Amanda Plummer
    • Beryl
    Natacha Amal
    • Giaconda the Baby Factory
    Manna Fujiwara
    • Giulietta…
    Polly Walker
    Polly Walker
    • Palmira
    Elizabeth Berrington
    Elizabeth Berrington
    • Celeste, Emmenthal Maid
    Myriam Muller
    • Marianne, Emmenthal Maid
    Don Warrington
    Don Warrington
    • Simon
    Claire Johnston
    Claire Johnston
    • Amelia, Philip's Wife
    Pol Hoffmann
    • Mourner
    • (as Paul Hoffmann)
    Tony Kaye
    • Mourner
    Ann Overstall Comfort
    • Mourner
    • (as Ann Overstall)
    • Director
      • Peter Greenaway
    • Writer
      • Peter Greenaway
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    tedg

    Women: Types and Missteps

    A master visual allegorist reaches farther and fails. But not for the reasons others claim here. Greenaway has never centered his films in the narrative -- we'd always be frustrated to look for satisfaction there. (`Drowning' which among his works most delivers a story does so incidentally.) And this is a film about women, not sex, which will frustrate others.

    Here is his most character-driven film. At last, he works on closeups and some character definition. The primary ordering of the film is by basic archetypes of women, particularly archetypes drawn by men. This is supposed to be his most painterly film: the representative women are to be presented in scenes that reference famous paintings. Greenaway has stated that painting cuts to the basic drivers in cultural revolution, and the representations of women therein are tokens for everything conceived. Women thus are both humans and basic tokens in the redefinition of life.

    Such a rich conception is thoroughly Greenawayan and might have formed the skeleton for another masterpiece. Along the way, we have by now familiar devices. Numbers: random as in pachinko rather than ordered. Contrasts between Eastern (here just Japanese) and Western management of concept and image. Some slight use of layered images, here in the self-reference of displaying the screenplay.

    My complaints are two. I consider them fatal, but still celebrate Greenaway.

    The notion of archetype depends on clarity, a natural orthogonality and completeness of classes. Here we have the nun, whore, Chinadoll, servant, cripple, childbearer, fetishist, butch, and spontaneous addict. Time is invested in defining these. A few are singled out to be something more than props for lush compositions: the geisha chinadoll, the lesbian accountant, the gambler and the opportunistic, openly enthusiastic whore. But in bringing them to life, they escape their categories: two of these are male impersonators, another two financial manipulators, another two vamps. Three are Japanese. Usually, Greenaway's combination of painting (erudite structure and framing of scenes) and film (narrative, development) reinforce one another. Here, they dissonate.

    The second problem may be more fundamental. You really have to know your stuff to enjoy these films. My knowledge of The Tempest is rather deep, so I saw how rich was `Prospero's Books.' I read up on restoration comedy for `Draughtsman,' and discovered art in the viewing that I presume no one else in the theater saw. This film is supposed to reference the feminine archetype not as defined by popular culture, but by the history of painting. My knowledge of the art is poor, so I cannot attest to how deep the annotations are here. (Little use is made here of the layered image and narrative comment. Wonder why, since it would have been so natural.

    But I do know Gauguin, who also was a visual allegorist, who also worked with feminine archetypes and also the fascination with Asian differences. His monumental canvas `Where are We Going?' does just what this film purports.

    I wonder if there is little there in this film.
    babybink

    Sleeping by Numbers

    Most disappointing -- Greenaway's slide continues on from the flagrantly banal "Pillow Book", which looked like a pornographic Sprint commercial and had about as much intellectual impact. The thin visual style of "Women" harkened back to "Drowning by Numbers", one of my personal favorites, but the interchangeable, glibly apathetic characters lacked the depth necessary to hold it up. As usual, some interesting discussion of the body and its trappings, but sadly, prematurely self-referential and dull on the whole. Note that Vivian Wu manages to turn in yet another openly wretched performance, this time while fully clothed; Toni Collette provides minor temporary relief with her hilarious accent.
    7Krustallos

    Better than its Reputation

    Despite being hissed at Cannes this film is still well worth seeing. I purchased the DVD and the more I watch it the better I like it. For a start, as with all Greenaway's work since The Falls, the photography is ravishing. I don't think anyone makes films which look better.

    What few have picked up on is that (as well as an attempt to pick up Fellini's 8 1/2-ball and run with it), this is almost a remake of "A Zed and Two Noughts". Both films study bizarre responses to bereavement. both films play on doubling, in this case a father and son rather than two brothers. Both films touch on bestiality (with animals called Hortense!), gynecology, sex with amputees, a menagerie (in this case of women rather than animals), prostitution, uses of light, storytelling, and the colours black and white.

    Where that film referenced painting, this references performance in many guises - cinema, kabuki, cross-dressing, opera, television, prostitution, as well as painting.

    Contrary to at least one other user comment, there is no sexual intercourse shown in the film, although there is a quantity of nudity. It's very odd, if perhaps unsurprising, that this film has been sold as a sexy movie. SexIST? Well, confusing an ironic depiction of men's sexual fantasies with a reduction of women to the level of fantasy is 'politically correct' laziness at best. And as with most of Greenaway's films, the women are the winners in the end.

    One reason this is harder work than the earlier film is the lack of Michael Nyman's ravishing music. I'm not sure why Greenaway stopped working with Nyman; possibly he felt he was stuck in a rut - perhaps he was nettled by charges that any old footage looked like Greenaway if you played Nyman's music behind it. Either way, he's yet to arrive at a truly satisfactory alternative. Here we have "Slow Boat to China" sung a capella by the two leads, rather after the manner of Morecambe and Wise. It's quite funny, but it's not the marriage of sound and image of earlier films.

    The extent to which Philip Emmenthal represents Greenaway himself is perhaps worth considering. A character makes reference to Fellini having Mastroianni make love to all the women Fellini couldn't, and asks whether all directors make films to fulfil their own sexual fantasies. Emmenthal is notably the same age as Greenaway.

    He may not be sweeping the art-house scene before him these days (in fact there's not much of an art-house scene left these days), but in the end, even below-par Greenaway is better than 99% of directors can even aspire to.
    8ultraluv

    Not bad at all.

    I went in expecting the worst and left completely turned around. 8 1/2 Women doesn't hold a candle to The Pillow Book, The Cook the Thief..., or his earlier Drowning By Numbers, but I had fun! It was almost like Peter Greenaway does Woody Allen (wanna talk about film makers who purge their sexual fantasies on screen!) With the exception of a couple of scenes, the visual style of this film is stark and simple (much like Drowning...) and relied heavily on smart dialogue, which at times got a bit over the top, intellectually speaking, but kept the film going. I never got bored with it, I never got too disgusted, and even if I can't recommend it to most of the people I know, I still feel it's a strong feature.

    Now, even though this is Greenaway Lite, it still isn't for people who didn't like any of his earlier films. But even if you only liked The Cook The Thief, you should give this one a chance. Forget that you have hang ups about sex and sit back and watch the perversion unfold! Pure, sick fun!
    8elag

    In many ways it reminds me of De Sade's "120 days of Sodom"

    The 1st third of the film is densely textured with text and image overlays (as in his last few films). The effect reminds me of nothing more than the collages of Tom Wesselman and to some extent the paintings of Sigmar Polke. The interactions of the many layers is quite masterful & I especially like the way that everything, including actors dialogue and plot are treated equally as texture.

    Each section of the film begins with a text overlay of the scene description from the script. The full text is never on screen long enough to be read in its entirety. This reinforces the sense of story and dialogue as texture... of text as texture.

    The 2nd third of the film moves away from the visual overload mode as the theme of collecting sexual fantasies (represented by the women in the harem built by the Father and Son) comes into focus. It reminds me a bit of the collage-novels of Max Ernst in that it hangs a string of reveries on the framework of linear narrative... but the narrative is really just an excuse for manipulating images.

    The 3rd third becomes a bit turgid, probably because the pattern of collecting women (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8...) has become obvious by this time. In fact the film shows itself for what it really is.... a catalogue of desires. It is not particularly erotic though it represents a list of fantasies... whatever the subject is, it still retains the character of a list. This has the effect normalizing the erotic. One no longer questions whether the pleasures depicted are "normal" or "perverse"... they all become equal... a decorative pattern.... in much the same way that the dialogue resembles a complex pattern more than it does naturalistic speech.

    In many ways it reminds me of De Sade's "120 days of Sodom" (an old Surrealist favorite) which I also find to be as un-erotic as a list. As one of the characters in the film states: (it simply) "follows the fantasies to their logical conclusion". It seems to be more of an intellectual exercise aimed at unshackling desire... it does not seem to be aimed at provoking desire (in the viewer).

    There are, however, many poetic passages. During a scene in which one of the women is shaved bald the father and son pick up clumps of hair and attempt to describe the smell:

    "it smells like canaries...'

    "like brown sugar taken out of a damp paper bag..." &tc.

    The images are also poetic. My favorite is a japanese woman clad in a very red kimono singing nasally in front of a very blue door & next to a very pink pig.

    The sons (apparent) ability to invoke earthquakes (orgasms?) is also an interesting poetic touch.

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    • Trivia
      Toni Collette said Peter Greenaway chose her by accident for the role of Griselda. "I went in for another part and I had just had my head shaved and I had a Buddha hanging around my neck. Afterwards I thought, 'This is going to teach me to go to an audition looking like that'. " In fact Greenaway chose her for playing a woman who is blackmailed into serving on a brothel and posing as a lascivious nun. In the role, she was required not merely to appear nude but with a shaven pubis. "Peter Greenaway's odd, but very interesting. And he let me try everything I suggested," added Collette.
    • Quotes

      Philip Emmenthal: How many directors do you think use films to fulfill their sexual fantasies?

      Storey Emmenthal: Most of them, I think.

    • Connections
      Features 8½ (1963)
    • Soundtracks
      Sosaku Yoshiwara
      (Kabuki music)

      Written by Hirokazu Sugiura

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    • Release date
      • August 25, 1999 (France)
    • Countries of origin
      • United Kingdom
      • Netherlands
      • Luxembourg
      • Germany
    • Languages
      • English
      • Italian
      • Japanese
      • Latin
    • Also known as
      • 8 femmes et demie
    • Filming locations
      • Luxembourg
    • Production companies
      • Woodline Productions
      • Movie Masters
      • Delux Productions
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    • Gross US & Canada
      • $424,123
    • Opening weekend US & Canada
      • $92,000
      • May 29, 2000
    • Gross worldwide
      • $437,568
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    • Runtime
      • 1h 58m(118 min)
    • Color
      • Color
    • Sound mix
      • Dolby
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.66 : 1

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