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Ironweed - La force du destin

Original title: Ironweed
  • 1987
  • R
  • 2h 23m
IMDb RATING
6.7/10
11K
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Jack Nicholson and Meryl Streep in Ironweed - La force du destin (1987)
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An alcoholic drifter spends Halloween in his hometown of Albany, New York after returning there for the first time in decades.An alcoholic drifter spends Halloween in his hometown of Albany, New York after returning there for the first time in decades.An alcoholic drifter spends Halloween in his hometown of Albany, New York after returning there for the first time in decades.

  • Director
    • Hector Babenco
  • Writer
    • William Kennedy
  • Stars
    • Jack Nicholson
    • Meryl Streep
    • Carroll Baker
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  • IMDb RATING
    6.7/10
    11K
    YOUR RATING
    • Director
      • Hector Babenco
    • Writer
      • William Kennedy
    • Stars
      • Jack Nicholson
      • Meryl Streep
      • Carroll Baker
    • 66User reviews
    • 33Critic reviews
    • 56Metascore
  • See production info at IMDbPro
    • Nominated for 2 Oscars
      • 2 wins & 4 nominations total

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    Jack Nicholson
    Jack Nicholson
    • Francis Phelan
    Meryl Streep
    Meryl Streep
    • Helen
    Carroll Baker
    Carroll Baker
    • Annie Phelan
    Michael O'Keefe
    Michael O'Keefe
    • Billy
    Diane Venora
    Diane Venora
    • Peg
    Fred Gwynne
    Fred Gwynne
    • Oscar Reo
    Margaret Whitton
    Margaret Whitton
    • Katrina
    Tom Waits
    Tom Waits
    • Rudy
    Jake Dengel
    • Pee Wee
    Nathan Lane
    Nathan Lane
    • Harold Allen
    James Gammon
    James Gammon
    • Reverend Chester
    Will Zahrn
    Will Zahrn
    • Rowdy Dick
    Laura Esterman
    • Nora
    Joe Grifasi
    Joe Grifasi
    • Jack
    Hy Anzell
    Hy Anzell
    • Rosskam
    Bethel Leslie
    Bethel Leslie
    • Librarian
    Richard Hamilton
    Richard Hamilton
    • Donovan
    Black-Eyed Susan
    • Clara
    • Director
      • Hector Babenco
    • Writer
      • William Kennedy
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    9writerasfilmcritic

    Being Down and Out in America Illustrates What America is Really All About

    "Ironweed" is a good movie and a scathing indictment of life in modern America. Jack Nicholson and Meryl Streep effectively portray a pair of homeless bums on the cold late October streets of Albany, New York during the Great Depression. Their day to day existence revolves around simple survival in the most difficult of circumstances -- how to keep from going hungry, where to score a few hours work or a few drinks, and where to "flop" come nightfall in order to avoid being beaten and robbed or freezing to death. You don't have to be a bum to understand this list of priorities, although certainly, spending any time without a conventional home will clue you in like nothing else can. There are, you see, several levels of homelessness, street people of various kinds occupying the lowest tier. A level above that are the people who live in their cars, camping at the curb or crashing with friends, some of them duly employed while others are "between jobs." Then there are those who spend months or even years living in recreational vehicles of one sort or another and migrating with the seasons. These are the elite of the homeless crowd, ranging from truly adventurous souls who occasionally go without enough food to those with substantial bank accounts and second homes. Nonetheless, most if not all of them understand something about being kicked around and shown the door, just like the bums in this flick. Certainly, they all understand what its like on occasion not to know where you will end up spending the night, why authority figures are to be avoided, and why conventional people are nearly always the enemy, whether they know it or not.

    "Ironweed" puts a human face on the kinds of people society scorns the most -- street people, who live in filth and seldom wash, who often abuse alcohol or drugs yet haven't enough to eat and may dig through garbage searching for an abandoned morsel. They often live this way for a reason and not only because they have no choice. Frank has a choice but he is convinced that to go home "won't work out." He's a luckier bum than his fellows, who seem to have no choice at all. Oddly, it's pride just as much as eccentricity, incipient insanity, or alcoholism that keeps them where they are. Helen was a successful singer before her life went on the skids. Too much wine, a slump in her career, and being robbed of her inheritance seemed to signal her inevitable slide into oblivion. Now she barks at passersby and sleeps with whomever will tolerate her presence -- at a price, of course. Sandra is a drunk, an ex-whore, and in terrible shape when the others discover her passed out against a lamppost in freezing weather. They get her a blanket and some hot soup and prop her against a wall, but obviously, she is not long for this world. Rudy's a good sport, a bum's true friend, and he just scored a new gray suit, but he's been given six months to live and soon enough his new threads are grimy and tattered, just like the old ones. And so goes it. Only the strongest survive. All the while the comfortable bourgeoisie look upon the suffering of these brave souls with contempt, disgust, and often, unbridled hostility, hoping to avoid them and occasionally making them pay dearly for the inconvenience. Although the bums seem to scurry at the margins of society like rats on the prowl for scraps, they are, in a way, truly living. For however unenviable their precarious lot may be, they are on the edge, so unlike the predictable, dull, and hypocritical existence of the conventional folk around them. At times, one either knows or suspects that the bums are being romanticized or their foibles somewhat exaggerated, but nonetheless, the story comes off as reasonably authentic. And the acting in it is superb. One criticism, however -- the soft focus effect throughout. I take it the director was attempting to blur further the distinction between fantasy and reality, posing as it did a continuing problem for the main characters, who often dreamed of some simple connection to dignity, comfort, and security while in the throes of their unrelenting misery. Nonetheless, I would have preferred a sharp focus. Otherwise, I found this flick to be very inspired.
    8lee_eisenberg

    The Great/Depressing Depression

    Given that we often hear a rather idealized version of the Great Depression - it seems like some people go so far as to treat it as the "good old days" - it's important to understand just what things were like back then. Hector Babenco's ultra-downer "Ironweed" does that. Jack Nicholson plays drifter Francis Phelan, who returns to his home town (where he hasn't been in years) and traipses around it, seeing the poverty prevalent throughout the Depression. He deals with his own demons and sees whether or not he can start up a new life. But he can't escape the reality of the status quo, or of his own past.

    Watching this movie, you may feel like you've just been drug through a gutter. But one must wonder how much better things are nowadays. For how terrible the Depression was, it helped our country understand not only abject poverty, but what caused the Depression. In this era of air-heads slacking off and using as many resources as possible, I wonder whether or not we might be headed towards a new kind of Depression. If so, then the movie warned us.

    Anyway, I recommend this movie, but understand that it's a total downer. Also starring Meryl Streep, Carroll Baker, Michael O'Keefe, Diane Venora, Fred Gwynne, Tom Waits and Nathan Lane.
    9dbdumonteil

    They're my pals.

    Never the timing for a movie had been so disastrous.Released in those "glorious " eighties when the success stories and the triumphalist heroes were the golden rule,"Ironweed" stood no chance at all.Two tramps did not fit well in the movie landscape of those "feel good" times.And two tramps played by two megastars ,it was unforgivable!

    The cast is stellar,but it's Meryl Streep whom I will remember FOREVER.When she sings her little tune "he's me pal" she's so heart-wrenching that she will move you to tears."At least ,I didn't betray anybody" she said.Although it was a colossal flop,Streep would only approach such an emotion afterwards.(notably in "the bridges of Madison County")Nicholson was equally courageous to play such a demeaning part,and he gets strong support from Carroll Baker who proves here she can age gracefully and from Tom Waits ,ideally cast as a barfly.

    "Ironweed" is very hard to see nowadays.One of these days ,it will be given the place it deserves.
    9uhmartinez-phd

    Grim And Wonderful

    Cold, desolate in the surface and an uncomfortable warmth in the inside. Meryl Streep leads in a way that is difficult to explain. She provides a truly magic movie moment when she sings "He's My Pal" for her supper. For a moment we live her fantasy. Her moment is our moment, that's why as the song and the fantasy ends something inside me cracked. I felt tears running down my face and, I swear, I wasn't ready for that. The humanity of Meryl Streep, the actress, filters through the devastating circumstances of her character. Circumstances that, by the time we meet her, are already a way of life. At the beginning of the film, when somebody asks her how is she, her reply is "Delightful". Trying to adjust to this character I listen to her stained, tired voice, trying to be heard and I did, heard her. I love Meryl Streep.
    10kinolieber

    Streep's Greatest Performance

    There are many reasons why this film is a masterpiece, but the most significant element is surely Streep's portrayal of a homeless alcoholic in 1930's Albany. Her appearance, about half an hour into the film, is quite frankly, astonishing. She walks into a soup kitchen and sits down next to Nicholson and your jaw drops at the transformation. Beyond the technical virtuosity, you marvel at the choices that Streep makes that express the character so movingly, from the vocal production which is almost like a groan of pain, to the body language including her constantly averted glance and shuffling walk which express the woman's lost self esteem, to her bursts of rage when we see the glimmer of the spirit she once posessed. There's a scene in a bar in which she sings for the patrons that you will never forget.

    Every other element of the film succeeds: the other performances (Nicholson, Tom Waits and Carol Baker stand out), the production design recreating a vanished era flawlessly without resorting to the phony perfection of say a Merchant Ivory film, the sound design which is surprisingly complex for such an intimate film, the screenplay, the cinematography, the direction. How is it that Hector Babenco has only made two films since this one?

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    • Trivia
      Argentinean director Hector Babenco said of this picture: "It is a movie that tries to embrace the territories of love, and it's also about the courage and beauty of people we don't usually think of as having deep and complex emotions."
    • Goofs
      As the trolley being driven by the scab played by Nathan Lane approaches the union protesters, there are no trolley tracks between the mob and the trolley. In the next shot, they suddenly appear in the dirt under young Francis' feet.
    • Quotes

      Rudy: Doc says I got cancer. First thing I ever got.

    • Connections
      Featured in Siskel & Ebert & the Movies: Wall Street/Throw Momma from the Train/Broadcast News/Empire of the Sun (1987)
    • Soundtracks
      Whe You Were Sweet Sixteen
      Words and Music by James Thornton

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    • Release date
      • September 7, 1988 (France)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Language
      • English
    • Also known as
      • Ironweed
    • Filming locations
      • Albany, New York, USA
    • Production companies
      • Home Box Office (HBO)
      • Keith Barish Productions
      • TAFT Entertainment Pictures
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    • Budget
      • $27,000,000 (estimated)
    • Gross US & Canada
      • $7,393,346
    • Opening weekend US & Canada
      • $36,973
      • Dec 20, 1987
    • Gross worldwide
      • $7,393,346
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    • Runtime
      • 2h 23m(143 min)
    • Color
      • Color
    • Sound mix
      • Dolby Stereo
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.85 : 1

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