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The Decline of Western Civilization

  • 1981
  • Not Rated
  • 1h 40m
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The Decline of Western Civilization (1981)
A look into the Los Angeles punk rock scene, that was largely ignored by the rock music press of the time.
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A look into the Los Angeles punk rock scene, that was largely ignored by the rock music press of the time.A look into the Los Angeles punk rock scene, that was largely ignored by the rock music press of the time.A look into the Los Angeles punk rock scene, that was largely ignored by the rock music press of the time.

  • Director
    • Penelope Spheeris
  • Stars
    • Eugene Tatu
    • Alice Bag Band
    • Black Flag
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • IMDb RATING
    7.5/10
    5.4K
    YOUR RATING
    • Director
      • Penelope Spheeris
    • Stars
      • Eugene Tatu
      • Alice Bag Band
      • Black Flag
    • 41User reviews
    • 25Critic reviews
    • 93Metascore
  • See production info at IMDbPro
    • Awards
      • 1 win total

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    The Decline Of Western Civilization: Black Flag Interview And Revenge Performance
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    The Decline Of Western Civilization: Black Flag Interview And Revenge Performance
    The Decline Of Western Civilization: Black Flag Interview And Revenge Performance
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    The Decline Of Western Civilization: Black Flag Interview And Revenge Performance
    The Decline Of Western Civilization: X Performs We're Desperate
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    The Decline Of Western Civilization: X Performs We're Desperate
    The Decline Of Western Civilization: Dave Grohl's Commentary
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    The Decline Of Western Civilization: Dave Grohl's Commentary
    The Decline Of Western Civilization: Fear Performs I Don't Care About You
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    The Decline Of Western Civilization: Fear Performs I Don't Care About You
    The Decline Of Western Civilization: Germs Perform Manimal
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    The Decline Of Western Civilization: Germs Perform Manimal

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    Eugene Tatu
    • Self - Light Bulb Kid
    • (as Eugene)
    Alice Bag Band
    • Themselves
    Black Flag
    Black Flag
    • Themselves
    Catholic Discipline
    • Themselves
    Circle Jerks
    • Themselves
    Fear
    Fear
    • Themselves
    The Germs
    • Themselves
    • (as Germs)
    X
    • X
    Wayne Mayotte
    • Self - Owner - Club 88
    Brendan Mullen
    • Self - Owner - Masque
    Greg Ginn
    • Self - Black Flag (Guitar)
    Chuck Dukowski
    • Self - Black Flag (Bass)
    • (as Gary McDaniel)
    Robo
    • Self - Black Flag (Drums)
    Ron Reyes
    Ron Reyes
    • Self - Black Flag (Vocals)
    Nicole Panter
    • Self - Germs' Manager
    • (as Nicole)
    Darby Crash
    Darby Crash
    • Self - Germs (Vocals)
    Michelle Baer Ghaffari
    • Self - Darby Crash's Roommate
    • (as Michelle)
    Pat Smear
    Pat Smear
    • Self - Germs (Guitar)
    • (as Pat)
    • Director
      • Penelope Spheeris
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    one4now4

    A good documentary

    Here is a great movie. Now, first of all, I would like to say that I was born in the early 1980s. I really never knew, up-close and personal, what true punk rock was. Watching this film was like a history lesson of sorts. The music was great, good vintage rock n' roll from bands like Black Flag, Circle Jerks, X, etc. It seemed to me that with this film, Penelope Spheeris was trying to show people that these weren't all just stupid kids who were out to do drugs and kill people. Some of these punks really had some philosophies that they were working at behind their music. This seems most evident in the interview with Black Flag. I understand myself how a lot of people might view these bands' philosophies as under-developed and simple, but one must take into account that these were some pretty young people. Nowadays, as young as I still am, I find it refreshing to run into someone my age who understands in any way philosophical thinking. In this movie, the young people may seem a little half-baked in their philosophies, but you might keep in mind that most kids don't even get that far. I've met many full-grown adults who have not progressed as far with deep thought contexts as some of the punk musicians in "Decline". Another thing I loved about this movie was how funny it got at times. Some of these kids were total idiots, while the story about the dead painter was devilishly humorous. Fear's performance at the end topped it all. Even if punk is dead, it was once very alive. All flaws aside, "The Decline of Western Civilization" was made for people who can tell the difference between some suburban wimp with a mohawk and the truly intelligent individuals who were genuinely upset and picked up music instruments as weapons against the forces of the corporate.
    DBPVI

    As Good As It Gets

    When it comes to films on the L.A. hardcore scene of the late 70s/early 80s this is as good as it gets! It's very rare that cameras are around during the genesis of a music movement, and I will be forever grateful that Ms Sheeris was there to capture the beginnings of the LA hardcore scene that was growing out of the ideals and influences of the dying New York & London punk scenes. I was living on the East Coast at the time this film came out, and back then the only way to see some of these bands, without going to L.A., was to see this film. It was a rare event when one of these bands would pile into a van and head east on a tour, so to fulfill our love for the L.A. hardcore scene my friends and I would go see this film every few weeks. This is a great document of that time in music history. For people who liked this era of punk/hardcore music, here's a few other very similar documentary films you might want to check out...

    THE BLANK GENERATION - (70s New York punk - Johnny Thunders, Richard Hell, Ramones, Television, Patti Smith, etc...)

    THE PUNK ROCK MOVIE - (70s British punk - Sex Pistols, The Clash, X-Ray Spex, Eater, etc...)

    PUNK IN LONDON - (70s British punk - The Clash, The Adverts, The Lurkers, Subway Sect, etc...)

    D.O.A. - (70s American & British punk - Dead Boys, Generation X, Sham 69, Iggy Pop, etc... *contains a priceless interview with Sid & Nancy*)

    UK/DK - (80s British hardcore - The Addicts, The Exploited, The Business, UK Subs, etc...)
    wedgelvr

    just covers one sub-punk culture. . .

    Decline is an excellent movie, but we must keep in mind that it only showcases one of the many sub-cultures of punk rock in LA at the time. the Germs and Fear etc are all great bands and the shots of them don't do them justice. but the shots of the fans cast an almost negative light on punk rockers. this movie was made at a time when angry youth from orange county found their way into the LA punk scene. they made it violent, (it always sort of was, but it was never meant to take away from the music) they are shown moshing for the sake of hurting each other not for celebrating the music; like the punkers before them. Decline is an excellent glimpse into the punk scene of the 70s and 80s, but be wary when showing it to someone who only has this to base their opinions of Punk rock on.
    8InjunNose

    Brilliant, funny, scary...but selective.

    Everyone who's seen "Decline" knows how great it is. My favorite segments are those featuring Black Flag and Fear, because they're the funniest and the most visceral. Still, all the bands that actually STARTED the Los Angeles punk scene, apart from the Germs, are missing from this film. Where are the Weirdos, the Screamers, the Dils, and the Zeros? The Alice Bag Band is here, but they were better when they were simply the Bags. The Germs' segment is depressing. The very brief glimpses of Catholic Discipline were fascinating and made me wish that this band had at least recorded some demos. As a documentary, "Decline" is flawed...but it's indispensable, too. To find out about the bands this film didn't cover, read "We Got the Neutron Bomb" by Marc Spitz and Brendan Mullen. And to see what was going on in San Francisco right around the same time, get the much shorter (but equally brilliant) documentary "Louder Faster Shorter", directed by Mindaugis Bagdon. This twenty-minute burst of pure punk actually *does* feature the Dils--along with UXA, the Avengers, the Sleepers, and the Mutants.
    10Quinoa1984

    "Get me a ****ing beer!" A hilarious, dark, pulse-racing doc

    One of the major successes to The Decline of Western Civilization, filmmaker Penelope Spheeris' indie breakthrough, is that it can perhaps appeal to non-punk fans as to the hardcore ones. More importantly, it captures a moment in history before the movement became completely "market-worthy", when bands would play (or, at the least, try to play in some cases) in dank, dirty clubs to an audience that had as much self-respect as they had respect for the bands. For the fan, such as myself, there are precious interviews with some of the quasi-legends of LA's punk-scum, some dead, some still living and still hard-working in the scene.

    Performances and interviews include the likes of The Circle Jerks, X, Black Flag (in the pre-Henry Rollins days), Catholic Discipline, Fear, the Alice Bag Band, and most memorable (in my opinion) being the Germs. While I knew of a few of the bands and performers in the film (The Jerks and Black Flag mostly), I had only heard rumors about lead singer (the late) Darby Crash, and from the footage in the film he seems to be one of the, if not the, epitomes of the punk movement. He doesn't take himself too seriously, he loves to drink, sometimes when he speaks it's complete gibberish, and the attitude he brings on stage is both funny and in a free-form way exhilarating. A performer like that would probably scare Steve Miller and Jackson Browne out of their skins.

    Decline of Western Civilization may not turn on every non-punk fan that seeks this film out (it's hard to find on video), but it shouldn't necessarily turn them off either. Like a kind of anthropologist that's sneaked into the party, Spheeris gets the behavior of these people down pat, their motives, their likes and hatreds, and the power that was their on and off-screen personas. A few of them almost come off as normal, some don't, but they're only offensive to those who aren't too open to things. On top of that, the film is a must-see to the kinds of kids that think they're punk fans just because they listen to Good Charlotte and Blink-182: if you want to get the real scoop on the movement and genre of rock you profess to love, give the pioneers a chance. A

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    • Trivia
      According to director Penelope Spheeris this film was financed by two businessmen who originally wanted to finance a porn film.
    • Quotes

      The Circle Jerks member: And at the bottom it says "Thank you." And you can tell 'em to fuck off.

    • Connections
      Featured in Prey for Rock & Roll (2003)
    • Soundtracks
      Manimal
      Written by Darby Crash and Pat Smear

      Performed by The Germs

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    • Release date
      • 1983 (Italy)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Official site
      • Official Site
    • Language
      • English
    • Also known as
      • Занепад західної цивілізації
    • Filming locations
      • Los Angeles, California, USA(main location)
    • Production company
      • Spheeris Films
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      • $100,000 (estimated)
    • Gross worldwide
      • $440
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    • Runtime
      • 1h 40m(100 min)
    • Color
      • Black and White
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    • Sound mix
      • Mono
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.37 : 1

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