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Les douze salopards 2: Nouvelle mission

Original title: The Dirty Dozen: Next Mission
  • TV Movie
  • 1985
  • 1h 35m
IMDb RATING
5.1/10
2.7K
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Lee Marvin in Les douze salopards 2: Nouvelle mission (1985)
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During WW2, American General Worden orders Major Reisman to pick 12 soldiers from the military prison for the dangerous mission of killing a Nazi General.During WW2, American General Worden orders Major Reisman to pick 12 soldiers from the military prison for the dangerous mission of killing a Nazi General.During WW2, American General Worden orders Major Reisman to pick 12 soldiers from the military prison for the dangerous mission of killing a Nazi General.

  • Director
    • Andrew V. McLaglen
  • Writers
    • Lukas Heller
    • Nunnally Johnson
    • Michael Kane
  • Stars
    • Lee Marvin
    • Ernest Borgnine
    • Ken Wahl
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  • IMDb RATING
    5.1/10
    2.7K
    YOUR RATING
    • Director
      • Andrew V. McLaglen
    • Writers
      • Lukas Heller
      • Nunnally Johnson
      • Michael Kane
    • Stars
      • Lee Marvin
      • Ernest Borgnine
      • Ken Wahl
    • 19User reviews
    • 6Critic reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
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    Lee Marvin
    Lee Marvin
    • Maj. John Reisman
    Ernest Borgnine
    Ernest Borgnine
    • Gen. Worden
    Ken Wahl
    Ken Wahl
    • Louis Valentine
    Larry Wilcox
    Larry Wilcox
    • Tommy Wells
    Sonny Landham
    Sonny Landham
    • Sam Sixkiller
    Richard Jaeckel
    Richard Jaeckel
    • MP Sgt. Clyde Bowren
    Wolf Kahler
    Wolf Kahler
    • Gen. Sepp Dietrich
    Gavan O'Herlihy
    Gavan O'Herlihy
    • Conrad E. Perkins
    Ricco Ross
    Ricco Ross
    • Arlen Dregors
    Stephen Hattersley
    • Otto Deutsch
    Rolf Saxon
    Rolf Saxon
    • Robert E. Wright
    Jay Benedict
    Jay Benedict
    • Didier Le Clair
    Michael John Paliotti
    • Baxley
    Paul Herzberg
    • Reynolds
    Jeff Harding
    Jeff Harding
    • Sanders
    Sam Douglas
    • Anderson
    Russell Sommers
    • Gary Rosen
    Michael Sheard
    Michael Sheard
    • Adolf Hitler
    • Director
      • Andrew V. McLaglen
    • Writers
      • Lukas Heller
      • Nunnally Johnson
      • Michael Kane
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    5AaronCapenBanner

    Belated Sequel.

    Part II picks up a few months after the first(despite coming out 18 years later!) which has Lee Marvin returning as Major Reisman(older looking but still game) along with Ernest Borgnine and Richard Jaekel in their original roles. Reisman must once again recruit 12 condemned military prisoners, only this time, the group seems even less trustworthy than the first...

    Belated TV sequel tries to provide a seamless transition from the first film, and almost succeeds, but plot is uninspired, even silly(stop the assassination of Hitler? Unlikely in late World War II, but OK...) Works as well as it does by the good cast(Lee Marvin is still appealing, as are Borgnine and Jaeckel). Not bad at all, but hardly necessary! Still, there would be two more TV sequels, then a series.(Which I haven't seen).
    5mhasheider

    Stick with the original

    Flat and unconvincing follow-up to the original where Major Reisman (Lee Marvin) is ordered to lead another group of convicts into France to take out a German SS general who is planning to eliminate the Fuhrer.

    Besides Marvin reprising his role here, Ernest Borgnine and Richard Jaeckel also return "nearly" two decades after the original came out.

    It's almost impossible for me to decide which was worse, watching the three cast members (from the first movie) forced to carry the burden on their backs and/or how terrible the story (and the apparent lack of character development and humor if there is any). I bet a college freshman could come up with a far better story that anyone would enjoy.

    Stick with the original.
    6SkullScreamerReturns

    Inferior sequel but decent action adventure

    Dirty Dozen got its sequel, what, 18 years later. I don't know whose idea it was that this is an important movie to make. I mean, watching the sequel it looks like there should be more new ideas invented during all those years. But no, it starts almost like the same movie over again. Lee Marvin plays again the major who is assigned to gather a new team of misfit soldiers. Even the dialogue seems similar to the first film (when Marvin is giving instructions to the new guys). I was a bit disappointed that Charles Bronson is not in this one because his character survived the end battle of the first film. My guess is that he was busy making Death Wish 3 at the time (well, I don't blame him for that choice).

    So, Lee Marvin is the main guy who holds this movie on his shoulders. It's actually strange his face hasn't aged much even despite the long gap between the movies. The new actors are not bad but their characters are left paper thin. The training part is very short and straightforward. Instead of character drama we have a short but cool training montage, and then it's time for action. For the merit of this film I must say its length is a lot shorter than the first one. That makes the lack of new ideas a bit easier to digest. It's an action film that doesn't try to accomplish anything deeper.

    I happened to find this movie as bonus material on the dvd of the first film. That's pretty much how you should take this film - a bonus feature for fans who can't get enough of the first movie. Just go with low expectations.
    re_zuleta

    The Real-Life Story/Events Film Was Based On

    According to an article written many years ago, the original "The Dirty Dozen" novel was actually based on real life story. US military convicts were offered pardon in exchange for similar suicide missions in Nazi occupied France. They agreed, but after the drop they turned their tails and spent the rest of the war in neutral Spain. In real life, use of pardoned convicts as soldiers is rather common phenomena, as experiences in former Yugoslavia indicate. In WWII Red Army and Wehrmacht employed such practice. The operation that actually resembles this movie the most was conducted by Germans. In May of 1944, frustrated with unsuccessful attempts to chase down and destroy the core formations of Yugoslav Partisans, German High Command planned the daring parachute raid on the headquarters of Partisan leader Tito and trained entire battalion of convicts for that very purpose. At the end of the day, Tito, although initially surprised, managed to get away and the convict paratroopers, decimated in a hellatious battle, took only Tito's freshly tailored Field Marshall uniform as their only trophy.
    5dglink

    The Pitfalls of Making Sequels to Blockbusters, 101

    Nearly 20 years after the blockbuster success of "The Dirty Dozen," Lee Marvin, Ernest Borgnine, and Richard Jaeckel re-teamed for a sequel, "The Dirty Dozen: Next Mission." While Borgnine and Jaeckel retain their dignity and acquit themselves reasonably well, Marvin seems bored and tired throughout; "show me the money" is written all over his face. But the lead is not the only casting problem with this lackluster followup. The original dirty dozen were a motley crew of psychopaths and criminals, embodied by such great character actors as John Cassavetes, Telly Savalas, and Donald Sutherland. The dirty dozen in "Next Mission" are well scrubbed, clean cut young guys, who look as though they were former boy scouts recruited from a male escort service. To suggest these choir boys had committed crimes worthy of hanging or life at hard labor is laughable.

    Mercifully, "Next Mission" is about an hour shorter than the classic original. The assignment this time is to assassinate a Nazi general, who is intent on killing Hitler. However, the reasoning for saving Der Fuhrer's life is never explained. The mission not only lacks justification, but also seems to lack any logical plan. The team lands at an airport inside Nazi controlled territory, calmly walks from the plane dressed in German uniforms, and boards a waiting bus. One of the team is an African-American, but that only seems to occur to anyone at the last minute, just before they deplane. If that is not howler enough, the team member who has only flown crop dusters suddenly becomes expert at flying a German war plane. Marvin tells the group they will not parachute, because they have not been trained and would be killed; later, the entire group parachutes safely in the dark. Michael Kane is credited with the "writing;" he should have sued to take his name off.

    Director Andrew V. McLaglen is a competent director of such TV westerns as "Gunsmoke," Have Gun will Travel," and "Rawhide;" occasionally, he turned out a decent movie as well: "Shenandoah," "McLintock," "The Undefeated." However, the script for "Next Mission" defeated McLaglen and his career was over six years later, not long after another misguided sequel, "Return from the River Kwai." "The Dirty Dozen: Next Mission" should be required viewing in film school, The Pitfalls of Making Sequels to Successful Films, 101. "Mission" is unnecessary, howlingly inept at times, and only tarnishes the image of Lee Marvin. Not surprisingly, none of the new dirty dozen became household names afterward; all involved should have passed on this mission and so should viewers.

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    • Trivia
      Television movie debut for Lee Marvin. This is despite appearing in a number of television series episodes and the movie À bout portant (1964), which was originally made for television but ended up being released theatrically because it was thought to be too violent for TV.
    • Goofs
      The Uniform Code of Military Justice did not take effect until 1951 yet it is mentioned several times in the movie.
    • Quotes

      Arlen Dregors: [telling his story] We were on patrol in this village. There we five men. Officers. They had this young girl trapped. They each took their turns with her. None of us did nothin' to stop 'em. You see, they were white officers, we were negro soldiers. When they finished, they got into their Jeep and... just drove away. Something just happened inside me.

      Maj. John Reisman: You hit a lieutenant in the back of the head at 220 yards. That's a nice shot.

      Arlen Dregors: The Army didn't think so.

      Maj. John Reisman: But they're prejudiced. I'm not.

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      Edited from Les douze salopards (1967)

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    • Release date
      • February 4, 1985 (United States)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Languages
      • English
      • French
      • German
    • Also known as
      • Les douze salopards 2
    • Filming locations
      • Horsted Keynes Railway Station, Bluebell Railway, Sussex, England, UK(Railway scene with Lee Marvin on maintenance trolley)
    • Production company
      • MGM/UA Television
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    • Runtime
      • 1h 35m(95 min)
    • Color
      • Color
    • Sound mix
      • Stereo
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.33 : 1

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