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A Senator leads opposition to a Supreme Court nominee, straining friendships and family ties while pursuing career advancement. His relationship with a researcher adds further complications.A Senator leads opposition to a Supreme Court nominee, straining friendships and family ties while pursuing career advancement. His relationship with a researcher adds further complications.A Senator leads opposition to a Supreme Court nominee, straining friendships and family ties while pursuing career advancement. His relationship with a researcher adds further complications.
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How did she pilot that plane ? Maybe it should have been run on Netflix Rip Torn's character is a real pig but at least know it
In the bedroom scene between Alda and Streep in a room with a bed and that's what the room is for his character to get her character in bed
this is less about politics and more about the sex but I did not think the sex scene was all that funny a man betraying his family and children is not funny
didn"t someone say that Karen Traynor helped him fight another senate battle which says this wasn't their first go round with one another and he was power tripping from the get-go
the trivia it never mentioned that Alan Alda had personally picked Meryl Streep for this picture
The perfect precursor to what Aaron Sorkin and company so wonderfully wrought, Alan Alda and Jerry Schatzberg's intelligent and telling political drama/romance is more like the made for TV movie genre than first run feature. That having been said there's little to take to task here and much to be grateful for including some great character actor turns by Rip Torn and Melvyn Douglas (watch for the gumbo eating/policy thrashing scene) and some shrewd Washington insiders' observations. Somehow, it's hard to imagine Bush, Cheney and the neo cons having nearly half the fun.
Streep anchors the proceedings, investing a level of sophisticated theatricality that gives this film its necessary edge. Her robust good nature at proclaiming, "He's my Daddy!", while piloting a small plane, suggests both her southern belle roots as well as her tenacious appetite to be THE woman behind THE man.
Streep anchors the proceedings, investing a level of sophisticated theatricality that gives this film its necessary edge. Her robust good nature at proclaiming, "He's my Daddy!", while piloting a small plane, suggests both her southern belle roots as well as her tenacious appetite to be THE woman behind THE man.
Well-acted, occasionally well-observed drama which fails to deliver on its early promise. Joe Tynan is a forthright U.S. Senator, the latest young liberal hotshot, who jeopardizes his long-term marriage and home-life by initiating an affair with a civil rights activist. He's been carrying on with this also-married woman in various hotel rooms on the road, though Tynan's unhappy wife has more on her mind than his infidelity: she wants a life away from the political arena. As Tynan, Alan Alda, who also scripted, opens the film pressing Congress to pass a bill that would create a million new jobs in a distressed economy. One may watch this sequence and feel he's come upon a recent Congressional hearing via C-SPAN. Unfortunately, Bill Conti's animated music reminds us this is just a political lark--a vehicle for Alda, then a hot property from television's "M*A*S*H"--while the film's poor color and visual composition give hint this theatrical release was made on a limited budget. Alda becomes a Presidential hopeful practically off-screen, while his constituents bray in the background and play trade-off with each other's wives at Washington parties. This is all quite trenchant, and Tynan's face-off with a bigoted fellow senator is topical, but Alda's screenplay isn't really interested in the inner-workings of Capitol Hill. He's too anxious to get his character into bed with honey-voiced Meryl Streep (third-billed), who is shown to be a smart and savvy lady--though one who is just as unable to control her desires as Tynan. We don't learn much about the Streep character's situation, however the actress's sneaky, intricate force wheedles its way through and she just about walks off with the picture. Melvyn Douglas is surprisingly frittered away as an elder Senator, while Barbara Harris as Joe's wife isn't allowed to showcase her fringe assets (that dazed-and-dreamy voice coupled with the wobbly retorts). Alda is, of course, ideally cast for the lead, and his pained, sensitive expressions are contrasted quite well with his pent-up exasperation. The movie ultimately doesn't offer much because Alda can't stick with one scenario long enough for the picture to take-off as a whole. The film's overall design is dreadful, and director Jerry Schatzberg shows no style whatsoever, yet those little pinpoints scattered about show that not much has changed in Congress (nor in our country) in the last 31 years. ** from ****
This is a strange little film, and I think it only really popped up on my radar because of the stars: Alan Alda and Meryl Streep (both are great in general, obviously). The former also wrote this, and I don't think he did a terrible job - not as good as some of the episodes he wrote for M*A*S*H, but still okay, if flawed. But to whoever picked the title, I'm not sure why they went with The Seduction of Joe Tynan. That's not a good title.
The film's a political drama with some odd comedic beats at the most random of times. I guess it feels like it's about politicians being hypocritical and wild behind-the-scenes, all the while putting up a front, but if it's trying to be satirical, it definitely doesn't nail that tone. I think it also loses the thread a few times; any time it suddenly starts focusing on family drama, it feels very jarring.
Many of the individual scenes are good or entertaining on their own. The dialogue's generally good, and delivered well, with mostly strong performances. I think it's all put together in a very strange way though, that makes it feel messy, but that unpredictability and chaotic structure also makes it interesting in its own strange way.
The Seduction of Joe Tynan was only partially successful in seducing me as a viewer. It was interesting and kept my attention fairly well, but it was also kind of a mess.
The film's a political drama with some odd comedic beats at the most random of times. I guess it feels like it's about politicians being hypocritical and wild behind-the-scenes, all the while putting up a front, but if it's trying to be satirical, it definitely doesn't nail that tone. I think it also loses the thread a few times; any time it suddenly starts focusing on family drama, it feels very jarring.
Many of the individual scenes are good or entertaining on their own. The dialogue's generally good, and delivered well, with mostly strong performances. I think it's all put together in a very strange way though, that makes it feel messy, but that unpredictability and chaotic structure also makes it interesting in its own strange way.
The Seduction of Joe Tynan was only partially successful in seducing me as a viewer. It was interesting and kept my attention fairly well, but it was also kind of a mess.
As Rip Torn is getting a blow job in his senatorial office, an aide looks down and sees a woman's legs under the desk. The senator from La. tells the aide to leave, and we see the bewildered look on his face as he leaves. Small wonder, though, as this movie which shows the salacious side of life in D.C. goes on to reveal wild parties. This same senator is seen bragging on his mile-high exploits and the party climaxes in the grand piano being shoved out the window and traveling down the driveway, flowers on top intact.
Barbara Harris does a great job as the senator's wife. The role of the reluctant teen-ager is not fully developed, and her absence at the great nomination event of the Democratic party is not explained. When you contrast this movie with the carefully orchestrated phoniness of the Republican National Convention, you see easily how our 'free and open' society has degenerated. There were no riot cops with batons and stun guns suppressing the dissidents at this convention.
Alda is still too much of a nice guy in this movie, although he does sexual lust really well, ripping off Streep's clothes. Streep does a nice job, showing her frustration and sadness at her neglectful treatment by her own financially successful husband. The work of the senate aide is also demonstrated as clearly including the handing out of hotel room keys with no questions asked.
Reminding me of Dukakis' wife Kitty and Ford's wife, Betty, you see what the strain of being a Congressman's wife can be. Great points were made about the explicit price paid for having seen a therapist, having shock therapy or the like.
This movie isn't as good as 'The Best Man', Gore Vidal's wonderfully written movie, but who can write that well in this day and time. See the movie for it's strangely prophetic scenes. And then see Alan Alda, as the CORRUPT senator opposite Howard Hughes in 'the Aviator' just in time for the Oscars. Great contrast.
Barbara Harris does a great job as the senator's wife. The role of the reluctant teen-ager is not fully developed, and her absence at the great nomination event of the Democratic party is not explained. When you contrast this movie with the carefully orchestrated phoniness of the Republican National Convention, you see easily how our 'free and open' society has degenerated. There were no riot cops with batons and stun guns suppressing the dissidents at this convention.
Alda is still too much of a nice guy in this movie, although he does sexual lust really well, ripping off Streep's clothes. Streep does a nice job, showing her frustration and sadness at her neglectful treatment by her own financially successful husband. The work of the senate aide is also demonstrated as clearly including the handing out of hotel room keys with no questions asked.
Reminding me of Dukakis' wife Kitty and Ford's wife, Betty, you see what the strain of being a Congressman's wife can be. Great points were made about the explicit price paid for having seen a therapist, having shock therapy or the like.
This movie isn't as good as 'The Best Man', Gore Vidal's wonderfully written movie, but who can write that well in this day and time. See the movie for it's strangely prophetic scenes. And then see Alan Alda, as the CORRUPT senator opposite Howard Hughes in 'the Aviator' just in time for the Oscars. Great contrast.
Did you know
- TriviaYears later, Meryl Streep admitted she did this film after her fiancé John Cazale's death earlier that year, as a way to cope with his loss. She noted, "I did this film on automatic pilot," Streep remembered, "I couldn't have worked with a more lovely, more understanding person than Alan Alda."
- GoofsWhen Ellie and Janet are talking in the car which is supposedly in NY, various scenes (Towson State University, Electric Circus club) are seen out opposite sides of the car. These are non-adjacent locations in Towson, MD.
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