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The Todd Killings

  • 1971
  • R
  • 1h 33m
IMDb RATING
6.0/10
462
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The Todd Killings (1971)
True CrimeCrimeDramaThriller

An overgrown adolescent lives off his mother and leads small-town California teens astray.An overgrown adolescent lives off his mother and leads small-town California teens astray.An overgrown adolescent lives off his mother and leads small-town California teens astray.

  • Director
    • Barry Shear
  • Writers
    • Dennis Murphy
    • Joel Oliansky
    • Mann Rubin
  • Stars
    • Robert F. Lyons
    • Richard Thomas
    • Belinda Montgomery
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • IMDb RATING
    6.0/10
    462
    YOUR RATING
    • Director
      • Barry Shear
    • Writers
      • Dennis Murphy
      • Joel Oliansky
      • Mann Rubin
    • Stars
      • Robert F. Lyons
      • Richard Thomas
      • Belinda Montgomery
    • 17User reviews
    • 11Critic reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • See production info at IMDbPro
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    Robert F. Lyons
    Robert F. Lyons
    • Skipper
    Richard Thomas
    Richard Thomas
    • Billy Roy
    Belinda Montgomery
    Belinda Montgomery
    • Roberta
    Sherry E. DeBoer
    Sherry E. DeBoer
    • Amata
    • (as Sherry Miles)
    Joyce Ames
    • Haddie
    Holly Near
    • Norma
    James Broderick
    James Broderick
    • Sam Goodman
    Gloria Grahame
    Gloria Grahame
    • Mrs. Roy
    Fay Spain
    Fay Spain
    • Mrs. Mack
    Edward Asner
    Edward Asner
    • Fred Reardon
    Michael Conrad
    Michael Conrad
    • Detective Shaw
    Frank Webb
    Frank Webb
    William Lucking
    William Lucking
    • Detective
    Sandy Brown Wyeth
    Sandy Brown Wyeth
    Sherry Lynn Diamant
    Georgene Barnes
    Tannis G. Montgomery
    Tannis G. Montgomery
    • Jackie
    • (as Tanis Montgomery)
    Robert Williamson
    • Director
      • Barry Shear
    • Writers
      • Dennis Murphy
      • Joel Oliansky
      • Mann Rubin
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    7Hey_Sweden

    Robert F. Lyons excels in the lead role.

    Intelligent psycho drama inspired by "real life case histories", or rather, the story of an actual thrill killer named Charles Schmid Jr., a.k.a. "The Pied Piper of Tucson". A character who prefigured guys like Ted Bundy and Charles Manson, he is here named Skipper Todd, and is played by Robert F. Lyons. Skipper is a shiftless yet undeniably charismatic 23 year old man. The youths of the town of Darlington are completely enamoured of Skipper; he's one of those guys where the girls want to be with him and the boys want to *be* him. However, Skippers' outwards demeanour masks a dark side. And some of his associates are all too willing to help him cover up his crimes.

    All things considered, I can see how some people would find this film off putting. It is a sleazy story, to be sure, but it's compelling in a very sobering way. It does have some pertinent things to say about the way that people can find themselves drawn in by the force of someones' personality, for good or bad. Skipper is a mostly cool, unflappable type who makes it through police interrogations without flinching. His mom (portrayed by Barbara Bel Geddes) largely puts up with a lot of his aimlessness, and his new acquaintance Billy Roy (a pre-'Waltons' Richard Thomas) regards him with awe.

    Well photographed in Panavision by Harold E. Stine, with a powerful score by Leonard Rosenman, "The Todd Killings" serves as a rather picturesque depiction of rural California in the early 1970s. Performances are all right on the money, with a large number of familiar faces on hand: Belinda Montgomery, Sherry Miles, Holly Near, James Broderick, Gloria Grahame, Fay Spain, Edward Asner, Michael Conrad, William Lucking, Meg Foster, George Murdock, Harry Lauter, Eddie Firestone, Eve Brent, Jack Riley, and an uncredited Geoffrey Lewis.

    The opening sequence is a grabber, and producer / director Barry Shear prefers to just plunge us into the action, saving all of the acting and technical credits for the final few minutes. Close-ups are used to good effect, and Shear gives us an honest, unflattering account of these turbulent times in American history and a memorable antagonist who's very much up front about his contempt towards the world in general.

    Seven out of 10.
    8boblipton

    Breakdown

    Robert F. Lyons is a young man living in a suburban town in California. He leads an aimles life, supported by his mother, Barbara Bel Geddes. He's very popular with the boys and girls his own age, a leader, dominating the boys, sleeping with all the girls. Everyone calls him "Skipper." But girls have been disappearing, because he's been killing them.

    It's based on the case of Charles Schmid of Tucson, and it's a depressing film, full of anomie and anxiety over the Viet Nam War, with the older woman listening to lectures about MOBY DICK. There's an air of the breakdown of society. It's a thoroughly unpleasant movie, which looks deliberate to me Lyons is excellent as the distant and sociopathic lead. With With Richard Thomas, Holly Near, James Broderick, Fay Spain, Gloria Grahame, and Edward Asner.
    4moonspinner55

    Jaded modern teenagers and their killer mentor

    Fictionalized portrait of real-life sociopath and killer Charles Schmid from Arizona (called Skipper Todd here, nicknamed "The Pied Piper of Tucson"), a 23-year-old dropout from reality who easily enchanted all the bored, feckless teenagers hanging out at the local high school and community swimming pool. Robert F. Lyons is quite persuasive as Todd, a seductive charmer who lives off his mother (Barbara Bel Geddes), who enables his freeloader lifestyle. Todd enjoys playing big brother and lover to the misfit kids in his stifling suburb (it feeds his ego) and, after killing a girl because he "had nothing else to do," he has no trouble getting a few of the teens to help cover up his crime. Richard Thomas is somewhat miscast as a hitchhiker Lyons takes under his wing (Thomas is intrinsically too bright to play this antisocial rube), but the supporting cast is excellent, particularly Bel Geddes, Gloria Grahame as Thomas' mother, Belinda Montgomery, Edward Asner, James Broderick, Holly Near and Michael Conrad. It's a technically assured picture, but one which is ultimately uneasy as a dramatic entertainment. Was it intended as a warning film? Rather, it's an exercise in glamorously dangerous narcissism: the disaffected youth too cool for society. ** from ****
    icyfloes.iceway

    Belinda J.Montgomery not nude as she should be.

    In the theatrical release of this film Belinda J.Montgomery did full frontal nudity but it is missing from the video version. Don't watch it if you wanted to see it for that reason. Also Richard Thomas(John-Boy of the Waltons) did a full frontal nude scene that is still in the video version but toned down from the theatrical version.
    9PeteStud

    A early Clockwork Orange/ River's Edge !!

    If you are a fan of the film look of RACE WITH THE DEVIL check out this fantastic obscurity that has sadly been forgotten also. I wont give too much away but this was based upon a true story of a young hood who influences his peers and is totally nihilistic and misanthropic. Fans of THE RIVERS EDGE should not pass up the chance to see this equally controversial and powerful film. Sure the budget limitations show but the film still evokes a gut punch. Quite sleazy and creepy this was directed by Barry Shear who also directed the fantastic ACROSS 110TH STREET. Seek out this great "bleaker" and if you enjoy it, tell all your friends.I put it in the same depressive bin as TAXI DRIVER, COMBAT SHOCK, CLOCKWORK ORANGE and GOD'S LONELY MAN...just a earlier shoestring TV movie version. I loved it.

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    • Trivia
      Inspired by real-life 1965 murders orchestrated by Charles Howard Schmid, Jr. (1942-1975), the so-called "Pied Piper of Tucson," a charismatic young Southern Arizona homicidal maniac whose crimes (involving teen followers and victims) roughly paralleled those later perpetrated by teen guru/killer Charles Manson. Schmid was convicted of two counts of first degree murder and one count of second degree murder. On 20 March 1975 he was stabbed 47 times by two fellow inmates at the Arizona State Prison and died of his injuries on 30 March 1975.
    • Goofs
      As with most film depictions of murder by manual strangulation, it takes a lot longer to accomplish than is shown in this picture.
    • Quotes

      Police Officer: Do you have relations with men?

      Skipper: I try not to. But sometimes there's a guy who's really sweet... it's so easy. We're both men... we both know where it's at. Personally, you're not giving anything away.

      Police Officer: What's your feeling's towards girls?

      Skipper: I can sleep with them once because it degrades them. It makes them dirty. The worst thing about it is... you meet a chick who isn't... bad. You can't screw her because you don't want to make her "dirty".

    • Crazy credits
      [prologue] The story you are about to see is a fictionalized dramatization of actual case histories. The names and certain characterizations and incidents have been changed to protect the innocent...and, in some cases, to protect the guilty.
    • Connections
      References Le Petit César (1931)

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    • Release date
      • November 1971 (United Kingdom)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Language
      • English
    • Also known as
      • Skipper
    • Filming locations
      • Samuel Goldwyn Studios - 7200 Santa Monica Boulevard, West Hollywood, California, USA(Studio)
    • Production company
      • National General Production Inc.
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    • Runtime
      • 1h 33m(93 min)
    • Aspect ratio
      • 2.35 : 1

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