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Si douces, si perverses

Original title: Così dolce... così perversa
  • 1969
  • Tous publics
  • 1h 32m
IMDb RATING
6.0/10
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Jean-Louis Trintignant, Carroll Baker, and Erika Blanc in Si douces, si perverses (1969)
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An unhappily married Parisian industrialist is pulled into a web of lust and deception after he seemingly rescues his new neighbor from her abusive boyfriend.An unhappily married Parisian industrialist is pulled into a web of lust and deception after he seemingly rescues his new neighbor from her abusive boyfriend.An unhappily married Parisian industrialist is pulled into a web of lust and deception after he seemingly rescues his new neighbor from her abusive boyfriend.

  • Director
    • Umberto Lenzi
  • Writers
    • Massimo D'Avak
    • Luciano Martino
    • Ernesto Gastaldi
  • Stars
    • Carroll Baker
    • Jean-Louis Trintignant
    • Erika Blanc
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  • IMDb RATING
    6.0/10
    1.4K
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    • Director
      • Umberto Lenzi
    • Writers
      • Massimo D'Avak
      • Luciano Martino
      • Ernesto Gastaldi
    • Stars
      • Carroll Baker
      • Jean-Louis Trintignant
      • Erika Blanc
    • 26User reviews
    • 24Critic reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
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    Carroll Baker
    Carroll Baker
    • Nicole Perrier
    Jean-Louis Trintignant
    Jean-Louis Trintignant
    • Jean Reynaud
    • (as Jean Louis Trintignant)
    Erika Blanc
    Erika Blanc
    • Danielle Reynaud
    Horst Frank
    Horst Frank
    • Klaus
    Helga Liné
    Helga Liné
    • Helene Valmont
    Ermelinda De Felice
    • Hotel Proprietor
    Giovanni Di Benedetto
    • Monsieur Valmont
    • (as Gianni Di Benedetto)
    Irio Fantini
    • Party Guest
    Dario Michaelis
    • Police Commissioner
    Renato Pinciroli
    • Porter
    Gianni Pulone
    • Press Photographer
    Lucio Rama
    • Party Guest
    Paola Scalzi
    • Helene's Friend
    Luigi Sportelli
    • Party Guest
    Beryl Cunningham
    Beryl Cunningham
    • Black Stripper
    Marcello Bonini Olas
    • Party Guest
    • (uncredited)
    Anna Scalzi
    • Jean's Secretary
    • (uncredited)
    Alessandro Tedeschi
    • Uomo Della Commissione
    • (uncredited)
    • Director
      • Umberto Lenzi
    • Writers
      • Massimo D'Avak
      • Luciano Martino
      • Ernesto Gastaldi
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    lazarillo

    Great Giallo! (I think)

    This movie (not to be confused with another Carroll Baker vehicle "Kiss Me, Kill Me" aka "Baba Yagi--the Witch")is Umberto Lenzi's follow-up to his groundbreaking classic "Paranoia". It came out the same year as Dario Argento's "The Bird with Crystal Plumage" (the film which started the deluge of Italian gialli) and was produced by the Martino brothers, who later made a number of interesting giallo films (usually featuring Eugenio Martino's alluring mistress, Edwige Fenech). It stars Carroll Baker, demonstrating her acting chops here by playing a character that is the exact opposite of the naive victim she played in "Paranoia", and it also features two excellent, native European actors--Jean Loius Trintignant and the gorgeous Erica Blanc. The script is surprisingly well-written and full of suspense and genuine surprises. It is a clever variation on the classic French film "Diabolique" with a decadent, high-society husband (Tritignant), wife (Blanc), and mistress (Baker) all crossing and double-crossing each other. It cleverly plays with the viewers awareness of the earlier film before throwing in an unexpected curve.

    It also seems to be very well filmed. (It's hard to believe that years later Lenzi would be making nauseating and inept cannibal films like "Cannibal Ferox" or just plain inept American slasher movies like "Hitcher in the Dark"). I say seems, however, because this film is only available on second or third generation copies of Greek videotapes that are not only panned-and-scanned, but are very badly panned-and-scanned so that the characters are often halfway off the screen. Trying to appreciate this movie is like trying to appreciate a beautiful painting that has both sides cropped off and is covered with really murky cellophane (and burnt-in Greek subtitles). If Lenzi's crap movies like "Ferox", "Hitcher", and even, god help us all,"Eaten Alive", can get the star DVD treatment, why can't "Paranoia" or this little gem?

    Oh, but I almost forgot--despite the title there isn't too much perversity here. Baker has a lot more nude scenes in "Paranoia". There is some Blanc-related nudity (although, in my opinion, you can never have enough of that), but the lesbian relationship between the two of them is unfortunately only hinted at. Of course, it may just have been cropped out. . .
    dbdumonteil

    Diaboliques II

    Caroll Baker :from Elia Kazan and John Ford to Umberto Lanzi:what a fall!to be fair,you must underline she played opposite Nicholson -quite well- in the overlooked "ironweed" ;this is not the kind of movie Jean Louis Trintignant must be very proud of !two years after Claude Chabrol's "Les Biches " in which he slept with two bisexual women too.

    The first part recalls a poor man's Chabrol,depicting the luxury world of the bourgeoisie .Trintignant ,a very earnest thespian,seems ill at ease ,but the women often strip bare ,to the viewer's great enjoyment.

    The second part is Lenzi trying to make his own "Diaboliques" :the heroine 's first name is Nicole ,like in Clouzot's classic ;it's almost absolute plagiarism -except for the mediocre ending- ,including the "clues" Baker scatters to frighten her mate and to make her believe that her dear husband might possibly be still alive .

    Take Dario Argento's movies instead:their screenplays ,though influenced by Hitchcock ,are much more exciting and original.
    6Jeremy_Urquhart

    It is what it is.

    Wikipedia calls this a giallo film, which I don't entirely see. I guess giallo doesn't have to be horror, but still. I guess the closer it leans into giallo stuff, the better So Sweet...So Perverse. There are some really feverish and bizarre scenes that play out in a zone that's somewhere between dream and nightmare. When things get more focused on the drama (all around a scheme that involves murder and infidelity), it's appropriately silly and heightened. It doesn't push those things too far, to the point where the film starts becoming an accidental parody of itself, but it comes fairly close in any event.

    I came away from it not feeling hugely enthusiastic, but for some of its offbeat energy, a few sequences, and an undeniable sense of style, I also can't call it bad.
    7The_Void

    One of Lenzi's best Giallo's!

    Umberto Lenzi Giallo's range in quality from sublime to trash, but his earlier genre entries tended to be the best; and So Sweet...So Perverse is certainly at the higher end of Lenzi's Giallo achievements. One of the trademarks of Giallo is a high dosage of sex scenes; but despite the fact that this film has the word 'perverse' in it's title; So Sweet...So Perverse is actually not all that perverse at all, especially not by Giallo standards. Rather, the film focuses more on the plot details than perversity, and it just about serves it well. Italian directors were famous for ripping of successful films from other countries, and the plot here is clearly lifted from the French classic 'Les Diaboliques'. We focus on a couple with marital problems; Jean and Danielle. When Jean hears a woman screaming in the upstairs apartment one day, he immediately decides to investigate. There he finds Nicole; a woman frightened of her boyfriend Klaus. The pair soon begin to fall in love, but it later transpires that this was just a trap set to snare Jean...

    So Sweet...So Perverse is a classy little thriller and much unlike later Lenzi Giallo's such as Eyeball, almost everything about the film is well done. The film benefits from a good cast, which feature early Lenzi muse Carroll Baker in the central female. Baker's role here initially appears to be a lot like her role in the earlier 'Orgasmo', but she soon gets to switch to a more interesting character. Baker is joined by the sexy Erika Blanc, and like most Giallo's with two sexy leading women; the pair do get to get it on, although you shouldn't go in expecting a full blown lesbian sex scene. Jean-Louis Trintignant rounds off the cast, but isn't given as much to do as the ladies. The plot does get a bit slow at times, but the film never slows down to the point of becoming boring. The second half is much more exciting than the first as that is when the plot gets into full flow. When the twists start to come into play, So Sweet...So Perverse really is an intriguing thriller and unlike many Giallo's, this one also features an ending that wraps most of the plot up nicely. This film is highly recommended to Giallo fans!
    6Red-Barracuda

    Not one of Lenzi's better pictures

    So Sweet...So Perverse is one of the late 60's gialli that Umberto Lenzi directed. It's an Italian variant on H.G. Clouzot's Les Diaboliques. It focuses on a couple with martial difficulties. The husband is lured into the arms of an upstairs neighbour who is being terrorised by a brutal boyfriend. But all is not what it seems.

    This one has a pretty good cast. The husband is the brooding Jean-Louis Tritignant (Death Laid an Egg), the wife is Erika Blanc (Kill, Baby…Kill!), the mistress is played by Caroll Baker (Baba Yaga)) and the boyfriend is the sinister Horst Frank (The Cat o' Nine Tails). Unfortunately, the film itself isn't a great vehicle for these actors. The story itself is not too engaging and there was a distinct lack of thrills and suspense in this one. In fairness, though, a lot of my frustration came from the awful copy that seems to be available of it. It was a terrible pan and scan job, that not only cuts off the sides of the picture but the top and bottom too! It means that the framing is constantly out and most of the shots are close-ups of the actors. This really effected my enjoyment of this one. I would like to revisit it when/if it is given a half-decent transfer.

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    • Trivia
      Second part of a trilogy also including Une folle envie d'aimer (1969) and Formule un (1970).
    • Goofs
      Aerial shots of Jean skiing behind a boat show the stunt double jumping the wake, and skiing, one-handed, far to the side on the open water, switch back and forth between close-ups of Jean-Claude Trintingant, but in the close-ups he is always in the wake, both hands on grips, directly behind the boat.
    • Quotes

      Black Stripper: Taking your clothes off isn't any problem, you know, when there's enough loot.

      Monsieur Valmont: They say she can be great when she's tight.

    • Connections
      Featured in Yellow Fever: The Rise and Fall of the Giallo (2016)
    • Soundtracks
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      Sung by J. Vincent Edwards (as J. Vincent Edward)

      Music by Riz Ortolani

      Lyrics by Norman Newell

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    • Release date
      • February 26, 1971 (France)
    • Countries of origin
      • Italy
      • France
      • West Germany
    • Language
      • Italian
    • Also known as
      • So Sweet... So Perverse
    • Filming locations
      • Punta Ala, Castiglione della Pescaia, Grosseto, Tuscany, Italy(scene by the sea)
    • Production companies
      • Cedic
      • Flora Film
      • Rapid Film
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    • Runtime
      • 1h 32m(92 min)
    • Color
      • Color
    • Sound mix
      • Mono
    • Aspect ratio
      • 2.35 : 1

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