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Tonnerre apache

Original title: A Thunder of Drums
  • 1961
  • Approved
  • 1h 37m
IMDb RATING
6.0/10
1.1K
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George Hamilton in Tonnerre apache (1961)
The trials and tribulations of bitter veteran Captain Maddocks and argumentative rookie Lieutenant McQuade at a cavalry desert outpost.
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The trials and tribulations of bitter veteran Captain Maddocks and argumentative rookie Lieutenant McQuade at a cavalry desert outpost.The trials and tribulations of bitter veteran Captain Maddocks and argumentative rookie Lieutenant McQuade at a cavalry desert outpost.The trials and tribulations of bitter veteran Captain Maddocks and argumentative rookie Lieutenant McQuade at a cavalry desert outpost.

  • Director
    • Joseph M. Newman
  • Writer
    • James Warner Bellah
  • Stars
    • Richard Boone
    • George Hamilton
    • Luana Patten
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    • Director
      • Joseph M. Newman
    • Writer
      • James Warner Bellah
    • Stars
      • Richard Boone
      • George Hamilton
      • Luana Patten
    • 26User reviews
    • 6Critic reviews
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    • Awards
      • 1 nomination total

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    Richard Boone
    Richard Boone
    • Capt. Stephen Maddocks
    George Hamilton
    George Hamilton
    • Lt. Curtis McQuade
    Luana Patten
    Luana Patten
    • Tracey Hamilton
    Arthur O'Connell
    Arthur O'Connell
    • Sgt. Karl Rodermill
    Charles Bronson
    Charles Bronson
    • Trooper Hanna
    Richard Chamberlain
    Richard Chamberlain
    • Lt. Porter
    James Douglas
    James Douglas
    • Lt. Thomas Gresham
    Tammy Marihugh
    Tammy Marihugh
    • Laurie Detweiler
    Carole Wells
    Carole Wells
    • Camden Yates
    Duane Eddy
    Duane Eddy
    • Trooper Eddy
    Slim Pickens
    Slim Pickens
    • Trooper Erschick
    Clem Harvey
    Clem Harvey
    • Trooper Denton
    Casey Tibbs
    Casey Tibbs
    • Trooper Baker
    Irene Tedrow
    Irene Tedrow
    • Mrs. Scarborough
    Marjorie Bennett
    Marjorie Bennett
    • Mrs. Yates
    J. Edward McKinley
    J. Edward McKinley
    • Capt. Alan Scarborough
    Mark Allen
    Mark Allen
    • Cole Daugherty
    • (uncredited)
    John Ayres
    • Capt. Owen Yates
    • (uncredited)
    • Director
      • Joseph M. Newman
    • Writer
      • James Warner Bellah
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    REES-1

    READ THE BOOK

    Has anyone noticed that almost every World War II movie had a triangle of two service men competing for the affection of one girl, with the world at war playing a minor role, usually to showcase the courage and nobility of our boys at war? Hollywood trotted out this formula once again for this movie, ruining an otherwise fine tale of soldiers on a far frontier battling a clever and determined enemy in a nasty little war, with no quarter asked or given. In the 60's there was no way a book was going to be brought faithfully to the screen. It had to be dumbed down, it had to devote an inordinate amount of time on the love interest, it had to be the equivilant of a "G" rating. A Thunder of Drums was an ass-kicking book, which failed as a film because although it managed to depart from romantic notions of war, still was unable to conceive of a story lacking romance. Even relatively recently, The Last of the Mohicans managed to have our frontiersman hero and a British officer competing for the affections of a girl. I am not saying there is no place for romance, but I am suggesting that some films would be better off without it, like A Thunder of Drums.
    6bkoganbing

    A hard frontier school

    It's usually a bad sign for a western when a title is given that has nothing to do with the story. There's no thunder and no Indian war drums. But A Thunder Of Drums is a nice combination of soap opera and horse opera.

    Richard Boone is one bitter commander of a forgotten frontier outpost in post Civil War Texas and has George Hamilton a new young lieutenant from the east assigned when he wanted someone with a little frontier experience. But there seems to be more than that in his hostility toward Hamilton.

    As for Hamilton he doesn't help his own cause by immediately taking up with Luana Patten who is the fiancé of James Douglas another lieutenant on the post. Hamilton has history with Patten and he's looking to write a few new chapters.

    But in the last 45 minutes of the film it's all cavalry business as Boone seeks to destroy a band of hostiles in the area and try to make sure the right tribe is blamed for some recent raids. It's a bitter school for his young officers Hamilton, Douglas and Richard Chamberlain.

    A Thunder Of Drums is based on a story from western writer James Warner Bellah who was the source of the famous John Ford classic cavalry western Fort Apache. Some similarities in some of the characters are present here. They're not romanticized though in the way John Ford would do.

    Such people as Arthur O'Connell as the first sergeant and troopers Slim Pickens and Charles Bronson have some small parts. Bronson who does not last long as Hamilton's orderly tries to tempt him in small ways. Definitely he's not a John Ford type character.

    A Thunder Of Drums is a gritty western with good performances from the ensemble cast.
    7mossgrymk

    a thunder of drums

    This puppy's been savaged on Rotten Tomatoes (25%) and has not fared especially well with my IMDB colleagues (5.9 rating) but I wish to somewhat rise to its semi defense here. The conflicts between officers and enlisted men and the even greater struggles between officers and officers on an isolated, lonely cavalry outpost (were there any other kind in westerns?) are well delineated by scenarist James Warner Bellah. This is not surprising since Bellah wrote the stories upon which John Ford based the two best of his cavalry trilogy. Alas, when Bellah is called upon to depict a love story or a credible female character his dialogue becomes stiff and awkward. And actors like Luana Patten and George Hamilton are not exactly the ideal candidates to unstiffen or de awkwardize them. Nor is director Joseph Newman able, like Ford did with Maureen O'Hara and John Wayne, to infuse their scenes with the realism he gives the action or male conflict scenes. B minus.

    PS...Best performances are given by Charles Bronson as a libidinous corporal (you forget how good this guy was before he became a star) and Arthur O'Connell as a hard bitten, veteran sergeant.
    7hitchcockthelegend

    It's not my advice, Mr, it's the rule of the game...

    ..Bachelors make the best soldiers, all they have to lose is their loneliness.

    A Thunder of Drums is directed by Joseph Newman and written by James Warner Bellah. It stars Richard Boone, George Hamilton, Luana Pattern, Arthur O'Connell, Charles Bronson, Richard Chamberlain, Duane Eddy and Slim Pickens. Out of MGM it's filmed on location at Old Tuscon & Sabino Canyon in Arizona, and also at Vasquez Rocks, California. It's filmed in CinemaScope and Metrocolor, with cinematography by William W. Spencer and music scored by Harry Sukman.

    "There are three things a man can do to relieve the boredom of these lonely one troop posts: He can drink himself into a straight-jacket: He can get his throat cut chasing squaws: Or he can dedicate himself to the bleak monastic life of a soldier and become a great officer."

    It's proved to be a divisive film amongst Western aficionados, and it's not hard to understand why. The film begins with a pre credit sequence of suggested savagery, a real attention grabber, then the credits role and the colour and vistas open up the story. From here we are placed into the lonely and fretful life at a cavalry fort in the Southwest. The company consists of tough grizzled Captain Maddocks (Boone) who carries around a burden from his past, his ire further inflamed by the arrival of greenhorn Lt. Curtis McQuade (Hamilton). He needs experienced men, not fresh faced kids, and McQuade isn't helping himself by being involved in a love triangle with Lt. Thomas Gresham's (James Douglas) lady, Tracey Hamilton (Patten). This coupled with the threat imposed by the Indians puts strain on all involved at Fort Canby. And there's the crux of the matter, the film is more interested with character dynamics than breaking out into an action packed B ranked Western.

    Newcomers to the film should prepare for a talky picture, but it is a very good talky picture. Sure there's action, including a well staged battle in the final quarter (check out those Apache suddenly appearing from the rocks like ghosts!), but this is a film that is being propelled by dialogue, well written dialogue. There is no point in saying that it's well cast because it isn't, Boone is immense and intense and gets the best dialogue of all, but Hamilton is miscast and Patten totally unconvincing. Pickens is hardly in it and Bronson has a character that could be any number of things; someone who it's hard to know if we should dislike or cheer on. While Chamberlain and Eddy are in it to look nice and play the banjo respectively. Yet with the photography suitably keeping the landscape arid and harsh, and the mood around the base one of impending death or boredom (even the levity of a drunken sequence only enforces what little joy is around), the film has much going for it by way of psychology.

    It's no "She Wore A Yellow Ribbon" of course, and its problems are evident, but it does have merits, and if for nothing else it deserves a look for Boone's excellent performance. 7/10
    8snicewanger

    An inexperienced young calvary officer learns about fighting Indians in the Southwest from his veteran commanding officer.

    A young lieutenant in the United States Calvary named Curtis McQuade is assigned to an out of the way Army post on the Southwestern frontier The post is understaffed and commanded by a career captain named Maddocks whose standing orders are to keep the peace with the limited resources that he has at his disposal. McQuade is also the son of an important army general in Washington and there is a suspicion among his fellow officers that he has gotten both his rank and his posting due to his fathers connections. In addition,McQuade discovers that a former lover of his is living on the post and is engaged to the lieutenant who second in command. It turns out that McQuade's father had commanded the post when McQuade was a boy and the Top Sargent of the troupe is a veteran named Karl Rodermill who had served under McQuade's father and remembers McQuade as a boy. Even before McQuades arrive , a war party of hostile braves has been causing havoc in the district. But are they Comanche or Apache? Captain Maddocks has to try to stamp out the threat of the hostile warriors while teaching McQuade how to be a soldier and a man.McQuade learns that Captain Maddocks has a secret in his past which involves McQuades father

    This is a taut,fast moving story that benefits from a tight script and sound direction. George Hamilton portrays McQuade and at this point in his career, he was still trying to develop as an actor. The movie belongs to Richard Boone, however. He is is ideally cast as Captain Stephen Maddocks and brings a gruff, world weary dignity to the role and he is the main reason to watch the film. Arthur O'Connell is very good as the crusty Sgt. Rodermill who see's his principle duty as trying to keep his men as safe as possible and has little patience with McQuades constant griping. Charles Bronson has a key role and Richard Chamberlain, Slim Pickens, and James Douglas are also in the cast. Luana Patten is unfortunately forgettable in the female lead and her portrayal lacks conviction.Singer Duane Eddy has a role but the less said about him the better.

    The script attempts to convey the boredom and lack of social stimulation at the desolate army post which leads to gossip, drinking, and personality conflict that can be deadly if they affect an officers judgment in the field.There are a few too many coincidences in the plot which weaken the story.

    A Thunder of Drums is a tight, well drawn out western action thriller that will hold your interest. Richard Boone's superb performance alone makes it worth a watch.

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      A Thunder of Drums is notable for the involvement of James Warner Bellah, a controversial author who made a name for himself by writing a series of pulp magazine stories about the U.S. Cavalry. Famed director John Ford took early notice of Bellah, adapting many of his cavalry stories printed in The Saturday Evening Post for his informal "Cavalry Trilogy": Le Massacre de Fort-Apache (1948), La charge héroïque (1949), Rio Grande (1950), and later Le Sergent noir (1960). Bellah, an unrepentant misanthrope once described by his own son as "a fascist, a racist, and a world-class bigot," saw Native Americans as the "red beast in the night." In most of his films adapted from Bellah stories, Ford countered this contemptuous viewpoint by granting Indians a sense of dignity and humanity. In Fort Apache, for example, the Indians are not the villainous, mysterious "Other," but the victims of government-sanctioned scoundrels. Despite their racial disagreements, Ford and Bellah agreed on one thing: the valor and pride of the military. The cavalry was basically honorable and uncomplicated by psychological neuroses or social bugaboos.
    • Goofs
      When there is a party for the engagement there are a number of senior officers in attendance but the fort has only the Captain and the three young lieutenants so where did all these older and over dressed officers come from?
    • Quotes

      Captain Stephen Maddocks: [Addressing 1LT McQuade] I am a long way from a Bible Thumper, but one thing I do believe, the sum total of man's experience with morality is the Ten Commandments. If we do not try to live by them, we throw away the God given chance for decency.

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    • Release date
      • May 15, 1963 (France)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Language
      • English
    • Also known as
      • El tronar de los tambores
    • Filming locations
      • Old Tucson - 201 S. Kinney Road, Tucson, Arizona, USA
    • Production company
      • Robert J. Enders Productions
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    • Runtime
      • 1h 37m(97 min)
    • Aspect ratio
      • 2.35 : 1

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