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Duel de Femmes

Original title: When Ladies Meet
  • 1941
  • Approved
  • 1h 45m
IMDb RATING
6.5/10
1.5K
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Joan Crawford, Robert Taylor, and Greer Garson in Duel de Femmes (1941)
Romantic ComedyComedyDramaRomance

A successful novelist falls in love with her married publisher, to the consternation of her boyfriend, who arranges for her to meet the publisher's wife.A successful novelist falls in love with her married publisher, to the consternation of her boyfriend, who arranges for her to meet the publisher's wife.A successful novelist falls in love with her married publisher, to the consternation of her boyfriend, who arranges for her to meet the publisher's wife.

  • Director
    • Robert Z. Leonard
  • Writers
    • S.K. Lauren
    • Anita Loos
    • Rachel Crothers
  • Stars
    • Joan Crawford
    • Robert Taylor
    • Greer Garson
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • IMDb RATING
    6.5/10
    1.5K
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    • Director
      • Robert Z. Leonard
    • Writers
      • S.K. Lauren
      • Anita Loos
      • Rachel Crothers
    • Stars
      • Joan Crawford
      • Robert Taylor
      • Greer Garson
    • 40User reviews
    • 7Critic reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • See production info at IMDbPro
    • Nominated for 1 Oscar
      • 4 wins & 1 nomination total

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    Joan Crawford
    Joan Crawford
    • Mary Howard
    Robert Taylor
    Robert Taylor
    • Jimmy Lee
    Greer Garson
    Greer Garson
    • Clare Woodruf
    Herbert Marshall
    Herbert Marshall
    • Rogers Woodruf
    Spring Byington
    Spring Byington
    • Bridget Drake
    Rafael Alcayde
    Rafael Alcayde
    • Walter Del Canto
    • (as Rafael Storm)
    Mona Barrie
    Mona Barrie
    • Mabel Guiness
    Max Willenz
    • Pierre
    Florence Shirley
    • Janet Hopper
    Leslie Francis
    • Homer Hopper
    Barbara Bedford
    Barbara Bedford
    • Anna
    • (uncredited)
    Jay Eaton
    Jay Eaton
    • Mabel's Party Guest
    • (uncredited)
    Jean Fenwick
    Jean Fenwick
    • Mabel's Party Guest
    • (uncredited)
    Mary Forbes
    Mary Forbes
    • Freddie's Mother
    • (uncredited)
    Olaf Hytten
    Olaf Hytten
    • Matthews
    • (uncredited)
    John Marlowe
    • Violinist at Bridget's Party
    • (uncredited)
    Harold Miller
    Harold Miller
    • Mabel's Party Guest
    • (uncredited)
    Harold Minjir
    Harold Minjir
    • Hotel Desk Clerk
    • (uncredited)
    • Director
      • Robert Z. Leonard
    • Writers
      • S.K. Lauren
      • Anita Loos
      • Rachel Crothers
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    User reviews40

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    6doc_brown

    The Greer Garson show

    Simple story, but some of the acting is marvelous, especially Greer Garson, who literally steals the movie. It was almost embarrassing to watch Joan Crawford try to act next to her. The difference of talent between the two women is unmistakable---Garson is leagues ahead.

    Robert Taylor was also excellent, playing the mischievous suitor, comically bent on winning Joan Crawford's Mary Howard. I had previously only seen him melodrama, so watching him play a comedic role was very refreshing.

    The story is a bit slow, but it picks up when Crawford and Garson meet towards the end of the picture. The dialog there is smart and thought provoking, and the talent of Garson really shines through.

    Not a great movie, but worth a rental to catch some good acting from two of the studio era's greatest stars.
    misctidsandbits

    A lot to enjoy

    Hey, I like both versions of this film. Not into parsing them either. The assembled talent, story, parts, clothes, set. This is the kind of movie I like to watch multiple times. First, watch the movie through. Then, maybe follow separate characters through. There's a lot going on simultaneously. Then, watch the clothes. Then, check out the house, furniture, etc. There was so much style put into these. All of these elements are what made these 30's and 40's films so special. I don't understand why all the comparisons and nitpicking.

    In both versions, the lady of the country house is something of a wonder - Spring Byington here. I like the Jimmy part a lot, and thought both actors did him well. He's the kind of guy who makes a wonderful friend, though he could get on your nerves at times. He's a young man who will settle down and make a good husband, reliable and good company along the way. Woodruff was an older man who hadn't settled down, self-centered, made a bad husband and rather a dullard actually.

    I think the sorting out between the women worked for both of them. The wife shook off the dead weight or drew her line anyway; the "girl friend" woke up from her naive daydream. We hope the husband woke up as well. Looks like Jimmy has a chance to come out on top as well!

    What's there to be so cynical about?
    7cdale-41392

    Entertaining Dingbattery

    We meet the very successful novelist Mary Howard (Joan Crawford) at a party for the launch of her new book. The party is hosted by her good friend, the much older, wealthy dingbat "Bridgie" Drake in her lovely apartment in New York City. Mary's long-time boyfriend is there too. Jimmy Lee (Robert Taylor) is a journalist and he proposes to Mary there at the party but she blows him off. It becomes clear that her romantic interests have shifted to her publisher, the much older, much less fun (and less attractive) Rogers Woodruf (Herbert Marshall).

    There's just one problem ... he's married to Claire (Greer Garson).

    Mary's follow-up project is a book called "Gods of Destiny." It's about a woman who falls in love with a married man; and Mary is struggling with the ending. She's desperately trying to make "The Other Woman" into some noble heroine, and she can't get it quite right. Bridgie invites her up to her country estate for the weekend to work on the ending and Mary gets her to invite Rogers as well.

    Jimmy gets wind of this; and arranges a way to "drop in" on Bridgie with Claire that weekend after he's found a sneaky way to get Rogers out of the house for a bit.

    So, what happens when the ladies meet?

    Well, the moment Mary sees Claire across the room she spits her gum out, shakes her shoes off, and hands her earrings to Bridgie - "Hold my gold!" She snatches Claire by the hair and dogwalks her out to the patio where she holds a bottle of champagne by the neck and breaks it over Claire's head, but before she can do any damage to her face Claire pulls a switchblade out of her sock and .....

    Wait a minute. No. That's not quite right. Hold on.

    It's actually quite civilized. They talk about the situation and about the concept of Love and blah blah blah, and I'm sure you can guess how it all plays out.

    Joan is alright here, and Greer is wonderful, but I found the dingbat Bridgie (Spring Byington) and her younger witless and gay gold-digging boyfriend the most entertaining.

    Sure, I'd recommend it!
    7blanche-2

    dated comedy/drama from MGM

    "When Ladies Meet" stars Joan Crawford, Greer Garson, Robert Taylor, Herbert Marshall, and Spring Byington.

    It's a talky film obviously based on a play that starts out somewhat typically: A woman falls for a married man, but her boyfriend still loves her. The film turns to something else altogether "when ladies meet," i.e., the other woman and the wife.

    Greer Garson is the wife, married to Herbert Marshall, who plays Crawford's publisher, Rogers Woodruff, Crawford is Mary, the author/other woman, Taylor is the boyfriend, Jimmy, and Spring Byington is Bridget, a friend, in whose country house the big confrontations take place.

    Like Norma Shearer's vehicle, "Her Cardboard Lover," a year later, this film looks and plays like a '30s leftover. Everyone is very good, and if Robert Taylor's broader attempts at comedy are a little forced, his physical comedy is quite funny, the scene in the boat being one of the best.

    Unlike his 20th Century Fox counterpart, Tyrone Power, Taylor was uncomplicated and not very ambitious. Devastatingly handsome, he was content at MGM for over 20 years - his big complaint once he was out of there was that he didn't know how to make dinner reservations.

    MGM would force Crawford out with bombs such as "Under Suspicion" two years later, but here, she gets top billing and does a good job as a woman who still has her romantic illusions.

    While Crawford and Taylor have comic moments, Herbert Marshall's role has none - he's deadly serious and oh, so sincere as he breathes his love for Mary.

    But the show belongs to Greer Garson,. She has the best and the most sympathetic role as a woman who, despite numerous affairs, has loved and clung to her man.

    This and the constant talking make the movie somewhat dated - what woman would put up with such a serial philanderer after all (or, rather, admit to it) - but her character is extremely likable, her words heartfelt, her pain palpable, and she's stunning to look at as well.

    Definitely worth seeing for the wonderful stars but not up to the usual quality of films these actors did.

    MGM was obviously going through a transition and recycling old material when the '40s hit. I think the 1933 version of this was probably superior if only due to it being more of its time.
    6Keedee

    No Ladies I Know Behave This Way....

    ...but perhaps I don't know a lot of true ladies. I'm more shocked that Joan Crawford got top billing in this delightful little farce. Greer Garson stole the show and Robert Taylor's role was dashing and quite likeable. Spring Byington played the perfect hostess for the weekend "Dish of the Dames". The truly unbelievable thing was the casting of Herbert Marshall as Rogers Woodruff. Hard to imagine one woman, let alone two having such rapturous feelings for that character. Perhaps there's the reality in this story. After all, these things are rarely understood. I found, in this case, "When Ladies Meet", to be quite entertaining and being a die-hard Greer Garson fan, I highly recommend it!!

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    • Trivia
      Remake of the 1933 MGM film Mais une femme troubla la fête (1933) starring Robert Montgomery, Ann Harding and Myrna Loy.
    • Quotes

      Bridget Drake: Well, for goodness sake, what's the matter with you people? Don't you know what beds are for? Or do you? Or is that the wrong thing to say?

    • Connections
      Featured in Joan Crawford: The Ultimate Movie Star (2002)
    • Soundtracks
      I Love but Thee (Jeg elsker Dig!)
      (uncredited)

      Music by Edvard Grieg

      Lyrics by Hans Christian Andersen

      English Lyricst unknown

      Played on piano by Joan Crawford

      Reprised on piano by Greer Garson and sung by her and Joan Crawford

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    • Release date
      • August 29, 1941 (United States)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Languages
      • English
      • French
    • Also known as
      • De mujer a mujer
    • Filming locations
      • Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios - 10202 W. Washington Blvd., Culver City, California, USA(Studio)
    • Production company
      • Loew's
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    • Budget
      • $640,000 (estimated)
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    • Runtime
      1 hour 45 minutes
    • Color
      • Black and White
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.37 : 1

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