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Duel de Femmes

Original title: When Ladies Meet
  • 1941
  • Approved
  • 1h 45m
IMDb RATING
6.5/10
1.5K
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Joan Crawford, Robert Taylor, and Greer Garson in Duel de Femmes (1941)
Romantic ComedyComedyDramaRomance

A successful novelist falls in love with her married publisher, to the consternation of her boyfriend, who arranges for her to meet the publisher's wife.A successful novelist falls in love with her married publisher, to the consternation of her boyfriend, who arranges for her to meet the publisher's wife.A successful novelist falls in love with her married publisher, to the consternation of her boyfriend, who arranges for her to meet the publisher's wife.

  • Director
    • Robert Z. Leonard
  • Writers
    • S.K. Lauren
    • Anita Loos
    • Rachel Crothers
  • Stars
    • Joan Crawford
    • Robert Taylor
    • Greer Garson
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  • IMDb RATING
    6.5/10
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    • Director
      • Robert Z. Leonard
    • Writers
      • S.K. Lauren
      • Anita Loos
      • Rachel Crothers
    • Stars
      • Joan Crawford
      • Robert Taylor
      • Greer Garson
    • 40User reviews
    • 7Critic reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
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    • Nominated for 1 Oscar
      • 4 wins & 1 nomination total

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    Joan Crawford
    Joan Crawford
    • Mary Howard
    Robert Taylor
    Robert Taylor
    • Jimmy Lee
    Greer Garson
    Greer Garson
    • Clare Woodruf
    Herbert Marshall
    Herbert Marshall
    • Rogers Woodruf
    Spring Byington
    Spring Byington
    • Bridget Drake
    Rafael Alcayde
    Rafael Alcayde
    • Walter Del Canto
    • (as Rafael Storm)
    Mona Barrie
    Mona Barrie
    • Mabel Guiness
    Max Willenz
    • Pierre
    Florence Shirley
    • Janet Hopper
    Leslie Francis
    • Homer Hopper
    Barbara Bedford
    Barbara Bedford
    • Anna
    • (uncredited)
    Jay Eaton
    Jay Eaton
    • Mabel's Party Guest
    • (uncredited)
    Jean Fenwick
    Jean Fenwick
    • Mabel's Party Guest
    • (uncredited)
    Mary Forbes
    Mary Forbes
    • Freddie's Mother
    • (uncredited)
    Olaf Hytten
    Olaf Hytten
    • Matthews
    • (uncredited)
    John Marlowe
    • Violinist at Bridget's Party
    • (uncredited)
    Harold Miller
    Harold Miller
    • Mabel's Party Guest
    • (uncredited)
    Harold Minjir
    Harold Minjir
    • Hotel Desk Clerk
    • (uncredited)
    • Director
      • Robert Z. Leonard
    • Writers
      • S.K. Lauren
      • Anita Loos
      • Rachel Crothers
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    User reviews40

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    7blanche-2

    dated comedy/drama from MGM

    "When Ladies Meet" stars Joan Crawford, Greer Garson, Robert Taylor, Herbert Marshall, and Spring Byington. It's a talky film obviously based on a play that starts out somewhat typically: A woman falls for a married man, but her boyfriend still loves her. The film turns to something else altogether "when ladies meet," i.e., the other woman and the wife. Greer Garson is the wife, married to Herbert Marshall, who plays Crawford's publisher, Rogers Woodruff, Crawford is Mary, the author/other woman, Taylor is the boyfriend, Jimmy, and Spring Byington is Bridget, a friend, in whose country house the big confrontations take place.

    Like Norma Shearer's vehicle, "Her Cardboard Lover," a year later, this film looks and plays like a '30s leftover. Everyone is very good, and if Robert Taylor's broader attempts at comedy are a little forced, his physical comedy is quite funny, the scene in the boat being one of the best. Unlike his 20th Century Fox counterpart, Tyrone Power, Taylor was uncomplicated and not very ambitious. Devastatingly handsome, he was content at MGM for over 20 years - his big complaint once he was out of there was that he didn't know how to make dinner reservations. MGM would force Crawford out with bombs such as "Under Suspicion" two years later, but here, she gets top billing and does a good job as a woman who still has her romantic illusions. While Crawford and Taylor have comic moments, Herbert Marshall's role has none - he's deadly serious and oh, so sincere as he breathes his love for Mary.

    But the show belongs to Greer Garson,. She has the best and the most sympathetic role as a woman who, despite numerous affairs, has loved and clung to her man. This and the constant talking make the movie somewhat dated - what woman would put up with such a serial philanderer after all (or, rather, admit to it) - but her character is extremely likable, her words heartfelt, her pain palpable, and she's stunning to look at as well.

    Definitely worth seeing for the wonderful stars but not up to the usual quality of films these actors did. MGM was obviously going through a transition and recycling old material when the '40s hit. I think the 1933 version of this was probably superior if only due to it being more of its time.
    7silverscreen888

    Intelligent Drama and Screwball Comedy; Memorable

    Rachel Crothers was one of the United States' best playwrights for decades. "He and She" and "When Ladies Meet" are her two best-known works. There was a good earlier version of this work; this remake has the benefit of stars of the caliber of Greer Garson as the wronged wife, Joan Crawford as the girl who wrongs her, Herbert Marshall as Garson's husband and Robert Taylor as the young man who loves Crawford. Robert Z. Leonard directed the film, with his usual skill in getting first-rate performances from his actors. The screenplay, adapted from the fine play by Anita Loos and S.K. Lauren, seldom seems as if it had been a stage work; and the scenes are opened out to include sailing and other outside scenes. The film boasts another lovely set by Cedric Gibbons, and some dense B/W style provided by the photography team. Music is by Bronislau Kaper, and in the talented cast along with the aforementioned quartet of well-cast actors the director gave us Spring Byington and several other good choices. But it is the plot in this highly-intelligent and understated contest between two women that drives every action; the theme of this important look at personal relations and the rules of commitment in partnerships is honesty--to oneself, and to one's partner. Garson thought she had a good marriage; Marshall may not have thought so, but he had no real reason to cheat, except to pretend to be Crawfor'd infallible mentor--a very unhealthy misassumption. Crawford thinks she is modern because she does not care why she is making herself momentarily happy; and Taylor loves Crawford for what she should be, not what she is. Byington, older and wiser, has taken on a 'husband' who is content to be her husband, and she has settled for his good points and agreed to put up with the rest on equal terms. The gimmick that works as a plot device here, cleverly, is that the two women in Marshall's life have never met; and when they do, Crawford still does not know who Garson is--or that she know her for what she is... In their parts, Garson is powerful, wonderfully intelligent and strong; Crawford does her best but apart from matching her charisma she cannot begin to match Garson's ethical screen presence. Robert Taylor plays his part as callow, charmingly young, and it is one of his best in energy, approach and timing. Marshall is professional in his part, but a bit old or staid to play a part that really required a Warren William or Walter Pigeon. .The lighting, the set decorations by Edwin B. Willis and the costumes are a great asset also. This is a very underrated.and intelligent look at "modern marriage", c. 1941. The upshot of the film is that Marshall realizes what he about to lose and is smart enough to try to earn Garson's love again, and that Crawford realizes what she was about to do for momentary pleasure by pretense, without even having earned it--with the possibility that Taylor may become to her what she had been fantasizing Marshall might be. This is always an interesting narrative, a very compelling mix of dramatic and character- revealing screwball satire elements. Highly recommended
    7sonyareyna11

    Love Story of art imitating Life

    Joan Crawford plays Mary Howard, a novelist in love with her publisher who can't seem to finish her latest manuscript about a woman in love with a married man. In a case of art imitating life, Mary much like her literary heroine believes Rogers Woodruff will leave his wife and forge a future together with her. To make things complicated, Mary is relentlessly pursued by handsome Jimmy played by charming Robert Taylor. Although she likes Jimmy, Mary turns down his marriage proposals saying she prefers to remain friends. Instead, Mary arranges a getaway weekend at the home of ditsy friend Bridgi (wonderfully acted by Spring Byington) so she can see Rogers. The plot thickens when Jimmy accidentally runs into Woodruff's wife (played by Greer Garson) and invites her on an outing where they "get lost" and find themselves at Bridgi's cottage. The story is an interesting one as Jimmy fails to tell anyone about Claire's true identify. Claire Woodruff is also in the dark about the woman, Jimmy is trying to make jealous. Throw in a thunderstorm and Jimmy's plan that inevitably sends Woodruff away on a wild goose chase so that the two women can meet, makes this film worth seeing. Both Joan and Greer Garson turn in solid performances. The acting is a bit stylized, characteristic of the 1940s but both women are appealing in their roles. Spring Byington almost steals the show with her funny character portrayal of Bridgi. The dialogue is crisp and Bridgi provides comic relief and helps the story flow. Stranded at the cottage, Mary and Claire strike a friendship and genuinely like each other. It doesn't take Mary long to know that Claire is married and confesses Jimmy is only trying to make her jealous."When ladies meet" has powerful scenes and the viewer is in on the secret of their connection as it cleverly unfolds to the two women. The dialogue is honest and the reveal ultimately helps Mary's writer's block to help her finish her novel. I highly recommend "When Ladies Meet."
    6Keedee

    No Ladies I Know Behave This Way....

    ...but perhaps I don't know a lot of true ladies. I'm more shocked that Joan Crawford got top billing in this delightful little farce. Greer Garson stole the show and Robert Taylor's role was dashing and quite likeable. Spring Byington played the perfect hostess for the weekend "Dish of the Dames". The truly unbelievable thing was the casting of Herbert Marshall as Rogers Woodruff. Hard to imagine one woman, let alone two having such rapturous feelings for that character. Perhaps there's the reality in this story. After all, these things are rarely understood. I found, in this case, "When Ladies Meet", to be quite entertaining and being a die-hard Greer Garson fan, I highly recommend it!!
    7ecapital46

    Surprising Upgrade

    Very seldom is the remake of a film better than the original, but this film is pleasantly one of the few exceptions. First of all, it is unknown to this reviewer why this film was remade so soon. Generally, film remakes are done after a generation of time has passed (20 years), but this film was remade just 8 years after the original in 1933. In addition, the original film cast was led by a cadre of Hall of Fame performers in their own right - Myrna Loy, Alice Brady, Frank Morgan, Ann Harding, and Robert Montgomery. You'd figure with a cast this good, how is any remake going to improve on those performances? Logical question. Yet, remarkably the five leads in this remake, pound for pound, improve on each of the original performances.

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    • Trivia
      Cedric Gibbons was nominated for the Art Direction Academy Award for this picture. He had also been nominated in the same category for Mais une femme troubla la fête (1933).
    • Quotes

      Bridget Drake: Well, for goodness sake, what's the matter with you people? Don't you know what beds are for? Or do you? Or is that the wrong thing to say?

    • Connections
      Featured in Joan Crawford: The Ultimate Movie Star (2002)
    • Soundtracks
      I Love but Thee (Jeg elsker Dig!)
      (uncredited)

      Music by Edvard Grieg

      Lyrics by Hans Christian Andersen

      English Lyricst unknown

      Played on piano by Joan Crawford

      Reprised on piano by Greer Garson and sung by her and Joan Crawford

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    • Release date
      • August 29, 1941 (United States)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Languages
      • English
      • French
    • Also known as
      • De mujer a mujer
    • Filming locations
      • Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios - 10202 W. Washington Blvd., Culver City, California, USA(Studio)
    • Production company
      • Loew's
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    • Budget
      • $640,000 (estimated)
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    • Runtime
      1 hour 45 minutes
    • Color
      • Black and White
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.37 : 1

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