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So This Is College

  • 1929
  • Passed
  • 1h 38m
IMDb RATING
5.4/10
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So This Is College (1929)
FootballTeen ComedyTeen DramaTeen RomanceComedyDramaRomanceSport

Biff and Eddie are the best of friends. They are college seniors, roommates at the fraternity, and star teammates on the USC football team. Then a flapper named Babs enters the picture. Biff... Read allBiff and Eddie are the best of friends. They are college seniors, roommates at the fraternity, and star teammates on the USC football team. Then a flapper named Babs enters the picture. Biff considers Babs his girl, and she does like him more than Eddie, but Eddie is persistent. ... Read allBiff and Eddie are the best of friends. They are college seniors, roommates at the fraternity, and star teammates on the USC football team. Then a flapper named Babs enters the picture. Biff considers Babs his girl, and she does like him more than Eddie, but Eddie is persistent. Everywhere they go, Eddie and Biff are competing for Babs. When Eddie backs off for the sa... Read all

  • Director
    • Sam Wood
  • Writers
    • Al Boasberg
    • Delmer Daves
    • Joseph Farnham
  • Stars
    • Elliott Nugent
    • Robert Montgomery
    • Cliff Edwards
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  • IMDb RATING
    5.4/10
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    • Director
      • Sam Wood
    • Writers
      • Al Boasberg
      • Delmer Daves
      • Joseph Farnham
    • Stars
      • Elliott Nugent
      • Robert Montgomery
      • Cliff Edwards
    • 11User reviews
    • 3Critic reviews
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    Elliott Nugent
    Elliott Nugent
    • Eddie
    Robert Montgomery
    Robert Montgomery
    • Biff
    Cliff Edwards
    Cliff Edwards
    • Windy
    Sally Starr
    Sally Starr
    • Babs Baxter
    Phyllis Crane
    Phyllis Crane
    • Betty Jackson
    Dorothy Dehn
    • Jane
    Max Davidson
    Max Davidson
    • Moe
    Ann Brody
    Ann Brody
    • Momma - Moe's Wife
    Oscar Rudolph
    • Freshie
    Gene Stone
    • Stupid - Gawky Freshman
    Polly Moran
    Polly Moran
    • Polly - Fraternity Cook
    Lee Shumway
    Lee Shumway
    • Coach
    Ernie Alexander
    • Student
    • (uncredited)
    Ward Bond
    Ward Bond
    • USC Player - #30
    • (uncredited)
    Richard Carle
    Richard Carle
    • Entomology Professor
    • (uncredited)
    Ray Cooke
    Ray Cooke
    • Student
    • (uncredited)
    Delmer Daves
    Delmer Daves
    • USC Player
    • (uncredited)
    Ann Dvorak
    Ann Dvorak
    • Sorority Sister
    • (uncredited)
    • Director
      • Sam Wood
    • Writers
      • Al Boasberg
      • Delmer Daves
      • Joseph Farnham
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    4csteidler

    Badly dated but the last half hour is not bad if you make it that far

    Could anybody be as obnoxious as the frat boys in the first 20 minutes of this antique? They throw food, they argue about who gets the most girls, they make the freshmen carry their trunks up the fraternity house steps....On the screen it's less funny than that sounds.

    Elliott Nugent and Robert Montgomery play football stars entering their senior year. As soon as they are all moved in, they get right down to the intelligent dialog:

    Montgomery: The team's got a tough schedule this year.

    Nugent: Yeah, we sure have.

    Montgomery: I've decided we're gonna cut out the women until after the football season's over.

    Nugent: You – hey, are you serious?

    Soon enough, the pair cross paths with cute co-ed Sally Star, who enchants them both. Nugent's approach is pushy, Montgomery's more polite, but she shows interest in both and rather quickly the picture develops into a fairly standard two-fellows-in-love-with-the-same- girl story.

    The farce takes a more serious turn at about the one hour mark— Nugent, in particular, becomes suddenly human and much more sympathetic. The climax of the story hangs not on which of them will get the girl but a much more important question:

    With their friendship all busted up, will Nugent and Montgomery blow the big game against Stanford?

    Technically, it's an early talkie fraught with the typical weaknesses—static camera work, dropped dialog—of that brief period during which filmmakers rushed to adopt a new and imperfect technology, making it up as they went. Dramatically, it's really pretty silly.

    Still….There is some lively football action in the closing minutes. Also, Cliff Edwards sings a couple of okay tunes.
    6gbill-74877

    An odd mix

    (3 stars)

    "Are you afraid of me?" "Yeah, I'm afraid you'll bite me." "Don't be silly, you know I'm a vegetarian."

    An odd little film, combining wacky college humor, a love triangle, musical numbers, and footage from the 1928 USC and Stanford football game at the L. A. Memorial Coliseum, then just five years old. It's too long at 98 minutes but it had its moments, and was an interesting window into the spirit of the Roaring Twenties. Released just a couple of weeks after the stock market crash, it felt a little like the end of an era.

    On the positive side, the playful banter and teasing between the college kids yields some occasional amusing moments. It was Robert Montgomery's first starring role, and Sally Starr is charismatic as the plucky young woman playing him off of his buddy (Elliott Nugent). Watch also for uncredited appearances from Joel McCrea and Ann Dvorak. The carefree dancing at a party was a lot of fun, including some wild moves from Nugent (at roughly the 32:29 point), and you get little bits like jazz inspired vocal riffs and Starr tooling around in a 1927 Chrysler Series 70 roadster. The football footage goes on a little long, but it's always interesting to see the plays being run way back when, and how primitive the equipment was (those helmets!). If you're not into football, I'm sure the last 10 minutes or so will overstay their welcome.

    The film never quite makes it because the two male leads often engage in boorish behavior, hazing the freshmen and going after the same women aggressively. It's all meant to be great fun, e.g. Oh those crazy college kids, and while they never do anything egregiously bad, they're not very likeable either. It's certainly a male point of view and the moral, essentially "bro's before ho's," wasn't all that appealing to me. Also, despite it being pre-Code, it's all very safe and rather bland, with no eyebrow-raising moments. It might be worth a look though.
    7AlsExGal

    All Talking, All Singing, All Dancing Coeds!

    Unlike many films about college, this one actually names the location - USC, although you never see anybody here crack a book. If you like the early talkies, and in particular if you like Robert Montgomery, I do recommend this one. It is typical of MGM's output in 1929 and 1930 in that if they made a movie that was the least bit comical, then it had to be at least partially musical. This one has some drama in it, but it is mainly a comedy.

    Eddie (Elliott Nugent) and Biff (Robert Montgomery) are popular senior football stars playing at USC, moving into their dorm room for the fourth and last time. They're buddies through thick and thin, but then a beautiful coed comes along that neither encourages nor discourages either of them enough to make them believe they are not in the hunt for her affections. At that point, a four-year friendship on campus and on the football field becomes strained. Will the young woman (Sally Starr) choose Eddie? Biff? none of the above? Watch and find out.

    This film is notable for being Robert Montgomery's third film role and Cliff Edwards' second. As such, at this point, Elliott Nugent is billed ahead of Montgomery, but that will soon change as Montgomery is a big hit with audiences and begins to compete with William Haines for the kind of leading man roles that normally had gone to Haines. Cliff Edwards doesn't have a huge role here, and frankly he looks way too old to be playing a college student, but he is still fun to watch as always. He is mainly comic relief and musical accompaniment in the musical numbers carrying his trademark ukulele. Also note Polly Moran as the cook at the fraternity house where Biff and Eddie live. She doesn't have many lines, but what she does have goes a long way. I also enjoyed the dance scene as some of the wilder dance numbers echo the exuberance that is the hallmark of the end of the roaring 20's.

    Leading lady Sally Starr isn't that well known today, but she was heavily promoted by MGM in the early talkie era as an answer to Clara Bow, and you can't help but see the similarities in everything from her demeanor to her voice that sounds quite a bit like Ms. Bow.

    Others have called this film creaky and static, but I really enjoyed it and thought it moved along nicely. There are no halting long-winded scenes, no gestures left over from the silent era - everyone involved seems to "get" acting in the talkie era. The only problem I could see is that occasionally the soundtrack would overpower the speech of the actors and make conversation hard to pick up, but this didn't happen very often. Just don't come to this one looking for a heavy dramatic storyline or even one that makes a lot of sense. It is pure escapism.
    drednm

    Polly Want a Cracker?

    I finally watched SO THIS IS COLLEGE, a 1929 MGM college film with music. I bought it from Warners a while back, but Robert Montgomery is not a fave so I shelved it.

    Right off the bat, I was surprised to see Elliott Nugent billed over Montgomery and at 33, a pretty old college senior (Montgomery was 25). Nugent acted in 17 or so films and some TV but is better known as a writer/director. He was son of actor J.C. Nugent. This might be Montgomery's first starring role.

    Anyway. In another of those "2 pals who fall for the same girl" plots, Nugent and Montgomery are college football heroes and roomies. They both fall for Babs (Sally Starr, her talkie debut), have lots of parties (it is college after all), and are endlessly singing, listening to, or dancing to "I Don't Want Your Kisses if I Can't Have Your Love." Starr falls for Nugent which sends Montgomery into a petulant sulk. Can the 2 pals make up in time for the "big game"? Real footage of a USC/Stanford game is used along with lots of location shooting on USC campus.

    On hand in support are Cliff Edwards (another mid-30s college senior) who sings a snappy "Sophomore Prom," Lee Shumway as the coach, Polly Moran as the cook, and Phyllis Crane as Betty. Among the bit players are Joel McCrea, Ward Bond, Ann Dvorak, Ray Cooke, Richard Carle, Delmer Daves, and of course Grady Sutton.

    There's a bizarre subplot about a dry cleaner, his wife, and a pair of pants. Max Davidson and Ann Brody are the couple.

    Funniest bit has Polly Moran running back to the kitchen after the "boys" sitting at a U-shaped table pelt her with saltines while they scream, "Polly want a cracker?'
    4richardrandbman

    An Historical Artifact from MGM

    This film is one of a genre very popular in late-20's and early 30's;in which college boys agonize over "loving" the same girl. Usually a girl they've just met. Our movie explores this issue in a rather uninspired manner . A dedicated "cinemaphile" has to endure lots of abject silliness in order to stay with it. Of main interest is that Robert Montgomery makes his initial "talkie" appearance here;and later-to-be successful playwright Elliot Nugent is also on display as actor only. And for just a few moments toward the end of the film one can view a very charismatic Joel Mccrea in the stands of the football stadium with the lead actress.He even has a few lines to say.Incidentally, following the storyline is a tad difficult. Continuity is apparently of little importance to the film makers, thus scenes and characters pop up seemingly out of nowhere. The actors constantly say and do the same things over and over in different ways scene after scene. And it would be absolutely fascinating to know how the lead female was selected .The poor actress is given the thankless role of 'femme fatale ' despite the physical appearance of a chubby 15 year old. From an historical viewpoint if you care about movies you almost have to watch it, but be prepared for a "bumpy night"

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    • Trivia
      Portions of the film were shot on location on the campus of the University of Southern California. Features actual footage of the November 3, 1928 USC-Stanford game played at the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum. USC won 10-0 and was named national champions that year. Newsreel footage from the 1928 USC-Stanford football game was intercut into the fictionalized game near the end of the film.
    • Goofs
      (at around 1h 10 mins) A clock tower is shown as Eddie and Babs are getting in late. The clock tower shown is Big Ben in London. Evidently the filmmakers could not or did not get a shot of the clock tower on Mudd Hall at USC.
    • Quotes

      Eddie: No, don't yell "hay" at that horse!

    • Alternate versions
      MGM also issued this film in a silent version, with Joe Farnham supplying the titles. Film length is 1860 m.
    • Soundtracks
      Cardinal and Gold
      (uncredited)

      Written by Al Wesson

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    • Release date
      • November 8, 1929 (United States)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Language
      • English
    • Also known as
      • College Days
    • Filming locations
      • Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum - 3911 S. Figueroa Street, Exposition Park, Los Angeles, California, USA
    • Production company
      • Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM)
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    • Runtime
      1 hour 38 minutes
    • Color
      • Black and White
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.20 : 1

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