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C'est pour toujours

Original title: Now and Forever
  • 1934
  • Approved
  • 1h 21m
IMDb RATING
6.5/10
1.3K
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Gary Cooper, Shirley Temple, and Carole Lombard in C'est pour toujours (1934)
CrimeDramaRomance

A swindler and his girlfriend take in his young daughter, who has been living with the family of his deceased wife.A swindler and his girlfriend take in his young daughter, who has been living with the family of his deceased wife.A swindler and his girlfriend take in his young daughter, who has been living with the family of his deceased wife.

  • Director
    • Henry Hathaway
  • Writers
    • Jack Kirkland
    • Melville Baker
    • Vincent Lawrence
  • Stars
    • Gary Cooper
    • Carole Lombard
    • Shirley Temple
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • IMDb RATING
    6.5/10
    1.3K
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    • Director
      • Henry Hathaway
    • Writers
      • Jack Kirkland
      • Melville Baker
      • Vincent Lawrence
    • Stars
      • Gary Cooper
      • Carole Lombard
      • Shirley Temple
    • 21User reviews
    • 7Critic reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • See production info at IMDbPro
    • Awards
      • 3 wins total

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    Gary Cooper
    Gary Cooper
    • Jerry Day
    Carole Lombard
    Carole Lombard
    • Toni Carstairs Day
    Shirley Temple
    Shirley Temple
    • Penelope 'Penny' Day
    Guy Standing
    Guy Standing
    • Felix Evans
    • (as Sir Guy Standing)
    Charlotte Granville
    Charlotte Granville
    • Mrs. J.H.P. Crane
    Gilbert Emery
    Gilbert Emery
    • James Higginson
    Henry Kolker
    Henry Kolker
    • Mr. Clark
    Tetsu Komai
    • Mr. Ling - Hotel Manager
    Egon Brecher
    • Doctor
    • (uncredited)
    Luke Chan
    • Assistant Hotel Manager
    • (uncredited)
    André Cheron
    • Inspector
    • (uncredited)
    Ronnie Cosby
    Ronnie Cosby
    • Guest at Penny's Party
    • (uncredited)
    Kenny Coughlin
    • Guest at Penny's Party
    • (uncredited)
    Carrie Daumery
    Carrie Daumery
    • Dowager Gambler
    • (uncredited)
    Sam Harris
    Sam Harris
    • Man at Pool
    • (uncredited)
    • …
    David Holt
    David Holt
    • Guest at Penny's Party
    • (uncredited)
    Richard Loo
    Richard Loo
    • Hotel Clerk
    • (uncredited)
    Buster Phelps
    Buster Phelps
    • Boy With Skates
    • (uncredited)
    • Director
      • Henry Hathaway
    • Writers
      • Jack Kirkland
      • Melville Baker
      • Vincent Lawrence
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    User reviews21

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    8jayraskin1

    See It for Lombard and Cooper

    Gary Cooper and Carole Lombard reminded me of the romantic thieves in "Algiers" played by Charles Boyer and Hedy LaMarr. That movie was 1938 and this one 1934, so this movie is the original. It is a pre-code movie, so don't expect the stupid moral standards that the Hays office enforced in the years after this movie. Cooper and Lombard are wonderfully charming in their first few scenes together. They become more intense later on and less fun. In fact the whole film become less fun when Shirley Temple enters. At age six, Temple wasn't yet the brilliant seasoned pro and entertainer she became the following years.

    This is Henry Hathaway's eleventh film, but eight of those were one hour Westerns with Randolph Scott, so it is only his third non-Western. His work with the actors, camera placements and story-telling techniques are excellent.

    The main problem I found was with the stings or cons that are in the film. They seem far too easy. Perhaps people were much more gullible and assumed honesty in those days, but it is hard to believe that Cooper could have pulled off his cons without the luck of having a screenwriter watching over him.

    It is not a great film, and not the best for Cooper, Lombard, Temple or Hathaway, but there is a lot of talent here and the film is enjoyable most of the time.

    Incidentally, Dorothy Dell starred with Shirley Temple in 1934 in "Little Miss Marker" and died in a car crash at the age of 19. Carole Lombard starred with Temple in this movie and died in a plane crash at the age of 34. I thought I had discovered a "Temple Curse," but when I checked all of Temple's other female co-stars, almost all lived into their 80's or 90's and died of natural causes.
    8hudecha

    Fellow non-lovers of child star movies - you might decide not to miss this one

    Let us be frank - having decided to view all available pictures with Carole Lombard, I had kept this one for the very end. Not because of Gary Cooper, though I had feared he would not be a natural match for the sharp wits of Lombard. Actually I was quite wrong about that, he is outstanding in a role of classy spendthrift swindler and irresponsible father. A few years later the role of Jerry Dean would probably have been proposed first to Cary Grant. But in 1934 Grant's impressive dispositions to play such morally dubious characters as Jerry had not yet been fully acknowledged - they would be for example in Hitchcock's Suspicion a few years later -, while on his side Cooper had not yet been typecast as the rather serious and taciturn character he mostly became in the 40s and after. The main reason for a limited eagerness to see this film, far from being a great fan of child star movies, was Shirley Temple. While the film made progress, there was relief to see that such fears had on the whole been exaggerated. This is not to say that Temple is not "extremely cute", all curls and dimples, as well as "so smart and wise for her age" - the two qualities which seem to have so enthralled the public with her in the 30s, and which can appear rather irritating to (some) modern viewers. She is both these things, a bit too cute, and too smart and wise. But one must recognize that she is not overacting it. More importantly, the film carefully avoids allowing her to steal the whole show. Cooper and Lombard do not simply become satellites around her sun - on the contrary, beyond her, theirs characters and mutual relation become more complex and contradicted than before. While not a masterpiece the film can be counted as a worthy element in both its stars' careers. It actually starts as pure screwball, very pleasantly so - but even before the appearance of Temple and the levity it brings, trouble looms and the mood starts shifting towards more serious ground. All along, dialogues between Jerry and his wife Toni are far above the lightweight stuff to be usually found in such comedies. The story earns in gravity and interest what it loses in sheer fun. The central thread is highly predictable - will the demands of fatherhood somehow oblige Jerry to give up his self-centered, pleasure-oriented life view and lifestyle ? -, and there cannot be much doubt about the final reply to that question, but both the actual ending and the way to get there are refreshingly unexpected and avoid rather skillfully the pitfalls of heavy-handed moralism - as Toni does. While Carole Lombard plays second fiddle to Cooper's first in the story, her character is fairly developed and rich, and she plays it with perfect pitch.
    6TheLittleSongbird

    Forever Shirley

    'Now and Forever' had two main things going for it. A cast including Gary Cooper (not one of my favourite actors but a likeable one), Shirley Temple (one of cinema's most legendary child actresses for good reason) and Carole Lombard (always a delight to watch and her tragic premature death is still a great loss). Henry Hathaway directing a film atypical for him at that time. Also liked the idea for the story and was intrigued by Cooper and Lombard paired together.

    There are a lot of good things about 'Now and Forever', but couldn't help feeling a bit disappointed and thinking that Cooper, Lombard, Temple and Hathaway have done better work in better films. Actually, 'Now and Forever' is a must for Temple, yet regarding Cooper and Lombard it is from personal opinion mainly to be seen if you want to see all of their films (am not saying that that is the only reason) and that is the case with Hathaway. Also if you're interested in seeing a film different from his minor westerns, when he was starting to move away from them and moving on to bigger features.

    Starting with these good things, 'Now and Forever' looks beautiful and glossy (something that can be meant in a positive and negative way, but is positive in this case). With the gorgeous fashions standing out, Lombard as always looks wonderful and the photography clearly loves her. Temple's song "The World Owes Me a Living" is very sweet and she sings and performs it remarkably expertly for a six year old.

    A warm glow can be found as well as charm, mostly provided by Temple. Laughs (early on though) and poignancy, like Temple's heart-wrenching reaction at her father's lie, are apparent. Hathaway fares quite competently, it could have had a lighter hand at times but this is not the work of an amateur. Guy Standing and Charlotte Granville come off best of the cast. The leads do very well, even if all three did better things. Cooper is charming and offbeat, even if his character is a weasel, and Lombard, though she could have had more to do in a role that is not particularly meaty, displays her usual elegance and charm with what she had. Stealing the film though is the delightfully adorable Temple who also showed a wide variety of emotions. The chemistry between the leads is nicely done, especially Cooper and Temple.

    However, the sentimentality can go overboard and the script can be a little too talk-heavy and is uneven in quality (amiable at some points, plodding in others in the more serious moments).

    The story can lose focus and doesn't always find the right tone, with some suspension of disbelief needed from the credulity straining. Do agree too that the ending juxtaposed too much dramatically and tonally with the rest of the film.

    On the whole, pleasant but flawed. 6/10
    6bkoganbing

    Shirley Away From Fox

    The only Shirley Temple appeared away from Fox studios was in this loan out film to Paramount co-starring Gary Cooper and Carole Lombard. After Fox became 20th Century Fox, Darryl F. Zanuck would not lend out his biggest star and America's biggest star during those years. Now and Forever was made slightly before Temple's peak years, but she was rising fast.

    Another viewer said he could not understand why Cooper and Lombard would want to be associated with this film. Very simply it was going to make money and they would also gain exposure. The challenge was holding their own against the adorable little moppet.

    Cooper is a confidence man who apparently isn't as good as he thinks he is. He swindles Guy Standing, but later finds out he's actually been the one taken. Of course by that time he's reunited with his little daughter and she introduced to his new wife Carole Lombard.

    Cooper just is an instinctive grifter though, content to lead life one step ahead of the law. It's not however a life that he can have a little daughter along with for the ride.

    The ending here is a little darker than most Shirley Temple movies are and that makes it somewhat unique. Lombard is good, but she's somewhat subdued in this film. Best in the film besides Shirley is Guy Standing.

    Not one of Cooper's best or Lombard's best, but Shirley Temple fans of every generation will probably like it, but find the film a bit strange.
    6SimonJack

    Life on the lamb or honor bright?

    As other reviewers to date note, "Now and Forever" is an unusual Shirley Temple movie, with a quite different ending. But for who Temple was as a child star of the day, such an ending would not be uncommon or bad for people in similar situations. The bottom line being the welfare and future of the child. The film is definitely drama with some music, where most of Shirley's childhood films are comedies with music, and usually some drama.

    Gary Cooper and Carole Lombard do quite well in this film against Temple's Penelope Day. Cooper's Jerry Day, struggles with conscience because of his daughter, while he continues to thrive on scams that make enough to carry him from one to the next. The film is based on a story, "Honor Bright," by Jack Kirkland. That is a phrase picked up and used by various authors in the 19th century, that had come to mean to tell the truth, or Scout's honor.

    Here are some favorite lines from this film.

    Toni Carstairs Day, "Well, what happens now?" Jerry Day, "What do you mean, dear - what happens now?" Toni, "I mean, what happens now?" Jerry, "Oh, you mean, what happens?" Toni, "Yes. What happens?" Jerry, "Why, nothing. I, I mean..." Toni, "You mean, nothing." Jerry, "No, I don't mean that at all."

    Jerry Day, "Lookie here, Toni. I know what's eating you. You think I haven't any business with that kind. Well, you're wrong. Dead wrong."

    Jerry Day, "You are a rat, Uncle Felix." Felix Evans, "Yes, I know."

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    • Trivia
      Shirley Temple memorized every line of dialogue in this movie, and whenever Gary Cooper forgot or fumbled his lines, Temple prompted him, much to Cooper's annoyance.
    • Goofs
      When Penny asks Jerry for his name, she mouths his answer at the same time he says it. Shirley Temple probably did this to stay synchronized for her next line.
    • Quotes

      Jerry Day: Toni, don't get one thing wrong. I still love you.

      Toni Carstairs Day: You don't need to say anything because there isn't anything left to say. If you'd even told me - but lying. You've lost your size, Jerry, and I could never chase trains with a little man.

      Jerry Day: Toni, I do love you.

      Toni Carstairs Day: That's very sweet, but I'm afraid we've missed the train.

    • Connections
      Featured in The Love Goddesses (1965)
    • Soundtracks
      The World Owes Me a Living
      (uncredited)

      Music by Leigh Harline

      Lyrics by Larry Morey

      Sung by Shirley Temple

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    • Release date
      • August 31, 1934 (United States)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Language
      • English
    • Also known as
      • Now and Forever
    • Filming locations
      • Big Bear Lake, Big Bear Valley, San Bernardino National Forest, California, USA
    • Production company
      • Paramount Pictures
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    • Runtime
      • 1h 21m(81 min)
    • Color
      • Black and White
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.37 : 1

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