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Men Must Fight

  • 1933
  • Passed
  • 1h 12m
IMDb RATING
6.2/10
418
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Phillips Holmes, Lewis Stone, and Diana Wynyard in Men Must Fight (1933)
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WWI nurse Laura falls for pilot Geoffrey, who dies in her hospital. Pregnant, she marries Ed Seward. In 1940, their son Robert meets Peggy. When peace fails with Eurasia, Robert refuses to f... Read allWWI nurse Laura falls for pilot Geoffrey, who dies in her hospital. Pregnant, she marries Ed Seward. In 1940, their son Robert meets Peggy. When peace fails with Eurasia, Robert refuses to fight, losing Peggy and dividing his family.WWI nurse Laura falls for pilot Geoffrey, who dies in her hospital. Pregnant, she marries Ed Seward. In 1940, their son Robert meets Peggy. When peace fails with Eurasia, Robert refuses to fight, losing Peggy and dividing his family.

  • Director
    • Edgar Selwyn
  • Writers
    • C. Gardner Sullivan
    • S.K. Lauren
    • Reginald Lawrence
  • Stars
    • Diana Wynyard
    • Lewis Stone
    • Phillips Holmes
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  • IMDb RATING
    6.2/10
    418
    YOUR RATING
    • Director
      • Edgar Selwyn
    • Writers
      • C. Gardner Sullivan
      • S.K. Lauren
      • Reginald Lawrence
    • Stars
      • Diana Wynyard
      • Lewis Stone
      • Phillips Holmes
    • 24User reviews
    • 10Critic reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
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    • Awards
      • 3 wins total

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    Diana Wynyard
    Diana Wynyard
    • Laura Seward
    Lewis Stone
    Lewis Stone
    • Edward Seward
    Phillips Holmes
    Phillips Holmes
    • Bob Seward
    May Robson
    May Robson
    • Maman Seward
    Ruth Selwyn
    Ruth Selwyn
    • Peggy Chase
    Robert Young
    Robert Young
    • Geoffrey Aiken
    Robert Greig
    Robert Greig
    • Albert
    Hedda Hopper
    Hedda Hopper
    • Mrs. Chase
    Don Dillaway
    Don Dillaway
    • Steve Chase
    • (as Donald Dilloway)
    Mary Carlisle
    Mary Carlisle
    • Evelyn
    Luis Alberni
    Luis Alberni
    • Soto
    Mary Gordon
    Mary Gordon
    • Pacifist Audience Member
    • (uncredited)
    Sherry Hall
    • Protesting Audience Member
    • (uncredited)
    Arthur Housman
    Arthur Housman
    • Drunk on Ship
    • (uncredited)
    Anderson Lawler
    Anderson Lawler
    • Mr. Siebert - Reporter
    • (uncredited)
    George Magrill
    George Magrill
    • Stretcher Bearer
    • (uncredited)
    Bert Moorhouse
    Bert Moorhouse
    • Pacificist Audience Member
    • (uncredited)
    Lee Phelps
    • Secret Service Escort
    • (uncredited)
    • Director
      • Edgar Selwyn
    • Writers
      • C. Gardner Sullivan
      • S.K. Lauren
      • Reginald Lawrence
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    ChungMo

    Ambivalent Melodrama about War and Human Behavior

    A strange combination of political foresight, a moral philosophy debate and unchecked patriotic jingoism. This isn't a great dramatic film for a lot of reasons but is a great thought provoker. This film should be viewed in high schools and colleges precisely because it takes both side of the issue so strongly. For example, while the script blames the mother for making her son into a pacifist and goes about celebrating the men who go to a certain death defending their country, it lets the pacifist grandmother have the final word in the movie.

    The foresight about Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan's war plans is very chilling. It's also interesting that this was around the start of the US pacifist movement that some say was partially financed by Nazi Germany to keep the US out of their way.

    While the film is done in that creaky early thirties acting style, the script gives the characters quite a bit of nuance. By the end you can't tell what side the filmmakers were on. Almost all of the intelligent quotes come out of the pacifists but the US is attacked and thousands die because of them. The anti-pacifists frequently come off as very violent and crude. Triumphant military music plays when the troops march out and fly off.

    This film should be seen with the more entertaining but similar "Things To Come"

    Some technical notes: the sound is very bad at points during the last ten minutes on the TCM print which I assume came from the MGM vault. The destruction of the Empire State Building, which is very disturbing to look at these days, was ridiculous. It would have taken much more then the one dinky bomb that came off the enemy bi-plane.
    7alanjj

    weirdly engrossing: pacifism and patriotism in the 1930s

    The future (1940) as seen from the vantage point of 1933. A movie about preparedness for war, the main characters are woman who became a pacifist after her beau died in WWI; her husband, the Secretary of State, a pacifist who turns hawk when war is imminent; her son, also a pacifist, who disappoints his stepfather by refusing to use his knowledge of chemistry to create better poison gases ("the weapon of the future"); the boy's fiance, who refuses to continue the engagement because the boy won't join in the war effort; a dotty pacifist grandma; and Hedda Hopper as the girl's hawkish mom.

    With a bizarre cast of characters like this, you can just imagine the plot. It takes the destruction of the Brooklyn Bridge and the Empire State Building, plus the revelation that his real father was a war hero, plus the abandonment by his stepfather, to make the pacifist son realize that he must fight, and likely die (as the enemy, Eurasia, has already invaded New York and seems to be equipped with deadly poison gas).

    This is a gem, and thank god we have oddball cable stations that show such stuff in the middle of the night. It is a movie about patriotism that exalts ambivalence, which is the strongest feeling that most of us possess. Although ultimately the movie comes down on the side of the fighters ("Men Must Fight"), the notion that it would be better for all nations (led by the world's mothers) to refuse to go to war is a major theme of the movie. It is mildly based on Lysistrata.

    The sci-fi elements stand out as particularly amusing from the vantage point of 2003: both television and picture phones are the norm, but nothing else (and especially the grand old prop planes) is the least bit modern. The prediction that whoever controls poison gas controls the world is in line with the misguided Sadaam-aphobia of our own decade.

    For any number of reasons, this flick is well worth watching.
    10Ron Oliver

    Provocative Polemic

    While MEN MUST FIGHT wars, it is the women who wait and strive for peace.

    This is a fascinating film, all but forgotten now, which both pleads for peace yet urges action against violent aggressor nations. By supplying strong characters to voice both sides, sometimes changing their minds mid-film, MEN MUST FIGHT tries to please everyone without alienating anyone. Politics aside, it is possible to enjoy the film strictly on the basis of its good acting and compelling production values.

    Beginning during World War One, the movie quickly jumps to 1940, where it tries to predict not only the fashions but also the geopolitics seven years hence from its production. Although the future enemy is called ‘Eurasia,' careful observation during the Coliseum anti-war rally clearly shows the Nazi swastika and the Imperial Japanese Rising Sun flag among the montage of dangers, eight years before America's entry into the still-distant World War Two, proving the prescience of the film's creators.

    Distinguished English actress Diana Wynyard is a standout as the woman who has seen too much of war's death and tries valiantly to convince others to renounce all warfare. She is well matched by Lewis Stone as her pacifist husband who must rethink his beliefs after high governmental office forces him to confront real dangers. These two excellent performers ably show the full force their decisions have on their most intimate relationships.

    Phillips Holmes gives a compelling performance as Wynyard's conflicted son--caught between pacifism & patriotism, he shows the stress going through the mind of any young man facing a really difficult decision. Ironically, considering the film's conclusion, this fine young actor would be killed in a midair collision in Ontario in August of 1942, preparing to fight the Nazis as a member of the Canadian Air Force

    Elderly May Robson makes one of her typically energetic film appearances as Lewis' sharp-tongued mother. Pretty Ruth Selwyn does well with her undemanding role as Holmes' patriotic fiancée; stately Hedda Hopper plays her strong-minded mother. Robert Young makes the most of his very brief role as the flier who is the great love of Wynyard's life. Rotund Robert Greig steals a few scenes as Robson's spirited butler.

    Movie mavens will recognize Arthur Housman as a shipboard inebriate and Mary Gordon as a spectator during the Coliseum rally, both uncredited.

    The film's pre-Code status is well demonstrated by its gentle mocking of patriotism and the way in which the opening scenes frankly present Wynyard & Young as unmarried lovers.
    6bkoganbing

    National Honor Requires

    Men Must Fight is an interesting if somewhat dated look at the future of the world as seen from 1933. At that time the thought of another total war like World War I turned out to be was abhorrent in the eyes of civilization. In fact World War I was simply called the Great War when referred to, that we'd have another was unthinkable.

    Diana Wynyard plays a nurse on the front lines in the Great War who's in love with flier Robert Young. When Young's killed, he's left something permanent for Wynyard to remember him by. But good and stout friend Lewis Stone will marry her and raise the kid as their own.

    Flash forward 20 years and the future in 1940 has folks using television and cellphones where one can talk and text. Lewis Stone is the US Secretary of State and curiously enough his character name is William Seward like another of our greatest Secretarys of State. Diana Wynyard is a pacifist activist and the two seem to work in tandem.

    The film is purposely vague, not telling us exactly who the US rivals are out there. It's an amorphous amalgamation of countries called, Eurasia. Our ambassador to there is assassinated and this means war because national honor requires it. Interestingly enough a few of our ambassadors in the past centuries were assassinated and the USA did not go to war for national honor in real life.

    This causes a conflict in Wynyard's grown son played by Phillips Holmes. Stone falls in line with the war declaration, Wynyard still works for peace, Holmes doesn't know what to do though he leans in Wynyard's direction. Holmes also is in conflict with his fiancé Ruth Selwyn who says America must fight.

    At that time the ultimate weapon was poison gas and the fear was that the chemists on both sides would make even more lethal varieties. And air raids. New York in fact is bombed by air.

    Men Must Fight is old fashioned and melodramatic. At the same time it's a sincere plea for international understanding and peace. My guess is that Louis B. Mayer buried this one deep in MGM's vaults when World War II came around. We're fortunate to have TCM show it, especially since leading lady Diana Wynyard made so very few films.
    GManfred

    Morality Play

    Old-fashioned movie of the kind no longer made. It is filmed like a stage play, which it was before brought to the screen by MGM. It is Pre-code, but there is nothing salacious or untoward in the screenplay which would raise objections. It is about a woman who raises her son to be a pacifist after her lover (his father) is killed in WW I. She marries a man who knows her secret, and who becomes adjutant to the Sec'y. of State. As the picture draws on the situation comes to a head with an agreeable resolution.

    The characters are hyperbolic and this story would never go over with contemporary audiences as illustrated here, especially the story's preachy message. It is saved by skillful acting performances and by the introduction of some glimpses into the future; the film uses a primitive form of TV, but it is used only in telephone conversations. Additionally, the writer has correctly foretold the coming of WWII almost to the year. An interesting and absorbing movie to watch and reflect on how far motion pictures have come in 85 years.

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    • Trivia
      Although produced in 1933, the bulk of the film takes place in 1940; events depicting the start of World War II are, of course, fictional and strictly futuristic, but nonetheless on target as far as the date is concerned.
    • Goofs
      During the air raid, the Empire State Building is shown to be destroyed. Later when Bob's flight group flies off by the New York skyline, the Empire State Building is seen.
    • Quotes

      Edward Seward: Hello son.

      Bob Seward: Dad!

      Edward Seward: Well, remember me?

      Bob Seward: [Bob hugs Edward, his father. Then, steps back] Well, they'll think we are a couple of Frenchmen.

    • Soundtracks
      Anchors Aweigh
      (1906) (uncredited)

      Written by Charles A. Zimmerman, Alfred Hart Miles and R. Lovell

      Played during the naval scenes

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    • Release date
      • February 17, 1933 (United States)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Language
      • English
    • Also known as
      • What Woman Give
    • Filming locations
      • Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer Studios - 10202 W. Washington Blvd., Culver City, California, USA
    • Production company
      • Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer (MGM)
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    • Budget
      • $240,000 (estimated)
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    • Runtime
      1 hour 12 minutes
    • Color
      • Black and White
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.37 : 1

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