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Secrets

  • 1924
  • 1h 48m
IMDb RATING
6.3/10
276
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Norma Talmadge in Secrets (1924)
Drama

After 40 years of struggle on the Wyoming frontier, a woman reflects on her hardscrabble life with her unfaithful husband.After 40 years of struggle on the Wyoming frontier, a woman reflects on her hardscrabble life with her unfaithful husband.After 40 years of struggle on the Wyoming frontier, a woman reflects on her hardscrabble life with her unfaithful husband.

  • Director
    • Frank Borzage
  • Writers
    • Rudolph Besier
    • May Edginton
    • Frances Marion
  • Stars
    • Norma Talmadge
    • Eugene O'Brien
    • Patterson Dial
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  • IMDb RATING
    6.3/10
    276
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    • Director
      • Frank Borzage
    • Writers
      • Rudolph Besier
      • May Edginton
      • Frances Marion
    • Stars
      • Norma Talmadge
      • Eugene O'Brien
      • Patterson Dial
    • 4User reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • See production info at IMDbPro
    • Awards
      • 2 wins total

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    Norma Talmadge
    Norma Talmadge
    • Mary Carlton
    Eugene O'Brien
    Eugene O'Brien
    • John Carlton
    Patterson Dial
    • Susan
    Emily Fitzroy
    Emily Fitzroy
    • Mrs. Marlowe
    Claire McDowell
    Claire McDowell
    • Elizabeth Channing
    George Nichols
    George Nichols
    • William Marlowe
    Harvey Clark
    Harvey Clark
    • Bob
    Charles Ogle
    Charles Ogle
    • Dr. McGovern
    Donald Keith
    Donald Keith
    • John Carlton Jr. (1888)
    • (as Francis Feeney)
    Alice Day
    Alice Day
    • Blanche Carlton (1888)
    Winston Miller
    Winston Miller
    • Robert Carlton (1888)
    Mae Giraci
    Mae Giraci
    • Audrey Carlton (1888)
    • (as May Giraci)
    Gertrude Astor
    Gertrude Astor
    • Mrs. Manwaring
    Winter Hall
    Winter Hall
    • Dr. Arbuthnot
    Frank Elliott
    Frank Elliott
    • Robert Carlton (1923)
    George Cowl
    • John Carlton Jr. (1923)
    Clarissa Selwynne
    Clarissa Selwynne
    • Audrey Carlton (1923)
    Florence Wix
    Florence Wix
    • Lady Lessington
    • Director
      • Frank Borzage
    • Writers
      • Rudolph Besier
      • May Edginton
      • Frances Marion
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    6robert-temple-1

    A partially preserved Norma Talmadge silent melodrama

    This is an impressive melodrama which is now difficult to see, because the DVD is made from a very poor print, apparently the only one surviving, with about a third of its footage lost. The modern subtitles which have replaced the originals are also partially illiterate, which does not help. For instance, 'adversity' is spelled 'adversory'. Some idiots at work there! But the film is worth watching for those interested in cinema history and in Norma Talmadge as a sparkling star of the silent screen. She does very well in the lead role here, playing a character named Mary Carlton. The story begins with her as an old woman in the 1920s. Her husband is lying ill in bed, believed to be dying. As he sleeps, she goes to rest in her room and gets her diary out of a drawer, and reflects upon her dramatic and perilous life history. Suddenly we are back in 1865 in England, and she is a young girl from a wealthy family getting ready for a ball. There is an amazing scene, largely satirical, of her dressing for the ball. Anyone interested in costumes really must see this to believe it! Words fail me in attempting to describe it! Then she has a confrontation with her stern parents who have discovered that she has been writing love letters to John Carlton, an employee in her father's business, whom her father has consequently just fired. Her father says: 'No daughter of mine is going to marry such a nonentity!' So Talmadge elopes and does so, rather impractically, in her hoop skirt. She and John go off into the darkness. Then suddenly we are in the wild northwest of America in a log cabin, having lost a huge amount of footage. John has somehow antagonised some ruffians called 'Jack's gang' and they come riding through the snow to 'get' him. Talmadge's baby has been ill and the doctor has just left. A huge gunfight takes place, with John and one other man besieged in the cabin, and as Talmadge retreats to the back room to see how her baby is doing, she holds a small mirror to its mouth and sees that there is no breath, and that her baby has died. She sits there holding the dead baby in a state of shock while the gunfight is proceeding. Talmadge is very effective in her acting throughout the film, and in this scene she portrays the tragedy and pathos very well. Then a huge loss of footage occurs, but an inserted title informs us (from notes or perhaps the script) that John won the fight and defeated Jack's gang, despite being hugely outnumbered, and becomes a local hero. Then we are suddenly back in England again years later, where John's infidelity with another woman is exposed, and the woman comes to confront Talmadge and demand his freedom, saying that John and she love one another. However, Talmadge sees her off and reclaims the penitent John, who sheepishly admits that he has lost all his money 'again' (we missed the earlier occasion or occasions in the lost footage) and that they are penniless once more. Talmadge says they will fight together to survive, as they have always done. She has meanwhile met up with her parents again, and satire once again rears its head as the father says to his daughter that he had always wanted her to marry John Carlton. She looks at him with a mixture of amazement and contempt. Soon we are back with her as an old woman, as the doctor enters to speak of her husband's condition. As IMDb does not permit discussion of endings, I cannot say how it all turns out. Considering its poor state of preservation, this film now is very much a specialist's viewing experience and the general public would not wish to put up with the missing sections and the bad print. But for those of us who see beyond such things, it is worthwhile, and would have been a very impressive film at its time of release. It is also a particularly fine example of Norma Talmadge's talent as an actress.
    6robert-temple

    A partially preserved Norma Talmadge silent melodrama

    This is an impressive melodrama which is now difficult to see, because the DVD is made from a very poor print, apparently the only one surviving, with about a third of its footage lost. The modern subtitles which have replaced the originals are also partially illiterate, which does not help. For instance, 'adversity' is spelled 'adversory'. Some idiots at work there! But the film is worth watching for those interested in cinema history and in Norma Talmadge as a sparkling star of the silent screen. She does very well in the lead role here, playing a character named Mary Carlton. The story begins with her as an old woman in the 1920s. Her husband is lying ill in bed, believed to be dying. As he sleeps, she goes to rest in her room and gets her diary out of a drawer, and reflects upon her dramatic and perilous life history. Suddenly we are back in 1865 in England, and she is a young girl from a wealthy family getting ready for a ball. There is an amazing scene, largely satirical, of her dressing for the ball. Anyone interested in costumes really must see this to believe it! Words fail me in attempting to describe it! Then she has a confrontation with her stern parents who have discovered that she has been writing love letters to John Carlton, an employee in her father's business, whom her father has consequently just fired. Her father says: 'No daughter of mine is going to marry such a nonentity!' So Talmadge elopes and does so, rather impractically, in her hoop skirt. She and John go off into the darkness. Then suddenly we are in the wild northwest of America in a log cabin, having lost a huge amount of footage. John has somehow antagonised some ruffians called 'Jack's gang' and they come riding through the snow to 'get' him. Talmadge's baby has been ill and the doctor has just left. A huge gunfight takes place, with John and one other man besieged in the cabin, and as Talmadge retreats to the back room to see how her baby is doing, she holds a small mirror to its mouth and sees that there is no breath, and that her baby has died. She sits there holding the dead baby in a state of shock while the gunfight is proceeding. Talmadge is very effective in her acting throughout the film, and in this scene she portrays the tragedy and pathos very well. Then a huge loss of footage occurs, but an inserted title informs us (from notes or perhaps the script) that John won the fight and defeated Jack's gang, despite being hugely outnumbered, and becomes a local hero. Then we are suddenly back in England again years later, where John's infidelity with another woman is exposed, and the woman comes to confront Talmadge and demand his freedom, saying that John and she love one another. However, Talmadge sees her off and reclaims the penitent John, who sheepishly admits that he has lost all his money 'again' (we missed the earlier occasion or occasions in the lost footage) and that they are penniless once more. Talmadge says they will fight together to survive, as they have always done. She has meanwhile met up with her parents again, and satire once again rears its head as the father says to his daughter that he had always wanted her to marry John Carlton. She looks at him with a mixture of amazement and contempt. Soon we are back with her as an old woman, as the doctor enters to speak of her husband's condition. As IMDb does not permit discussion of endings, I cannot say how it all turns out. Considering its poor state of preservation, this film now is very much a specialist's viewing experience and the general public would not wish to put up with the missing sections and the bad print. But for those of us who see beyond such things, it is worthwhile, and would have been a very impressive film at its time of release. It is also a particularly fine example of Norma Talmadge's talent as an actress.
    6boblipton

    Another Norma Talmadge Hit!

    Norma Talmadge, looking charming in little-old-lady make-up, is waiting for the doctor to tell her whether he can save Eugene O'Brien, her husband's life. Meanwhile, she thinks about their past: forty minutes of how they came to run off, despite the objections of her father -- including a charming sequence in which she is dressed in umpteen layers of clothes in the mid-Victorian style. We also see him fighting off a murderous gang while she sits crying over her dead baby, and Gertrude Astor telling Miss Talmadge he loves her now, give him his freedom, until he announces they are broke.

    The version I looked at had a quarter of its original 108 minutes lost, so there is little of the sense of build-up that original audiences saw. We do get to see Miss Talmadge in ornate costumes, which I never think really suit her; she was such an extraordinarily beautiful woman that rich clothes on her were painting the beautiful lily. What's left is the outline of a story, of the heartaches that a long and lasting love must endure. It's the sort of a movie that has always touched the sentimental audience, and was powerful enough that Mary Pickford chose to remake it as a sound film, with herself in the lead.

    With Claire McDowell, George Nichols, and the always welcome Charles Ogle.
    drednm

    A Norma Talmadge Hit

    This 1924 film exists, although about a third of it is lost. Still, the story is coherent. This was remade by Mary Pickford in 1933 and was her final film appearance. The story is basically the same but the locales are all different with Talmadge starting out in England and ending up in Scotland. Talmadge was one of the biggest stars of the silent era and is more famous now for her failure in talkies, although her NEW YORK NIGHTS is quite good.

    Talmadge marries and heads off for the "wilderness" with her husband but loses a baby during an attack. Still she survives and raises a family. This films boasts some good silent actors like Eugene O'Brien, Patterson Dial (the sister in law in TOL'ABLE David), Emily Fitzroy, George Nichols, Claire McDowell, Gertrude Astor, and Alice Day.

    In the 1920s, Talmadge rivaled Pickford, Swanson, and Gish in popularity; audiences loved to see her play patrician characters who suffered so nobly. What a shame so few of Talmadge's silent dramas have survived.

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      Debut of actress Florence Wix.
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    • Release date
      • March 24, 1924 (United States)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Languages
      • None
      • English
    • Also known as
      • Tajne
    • Filming locations
      • Wyoming, USA
    • Production company
      • Joseph M. Schenck Productions
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    • Gross US & Canada
      • $470,454
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    Tech specs

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    • Runtime
      1 hour 48 minutes
    • Color
      • Black and White
    • Sound mix
      • Silent
    • Aspect ratio
      • 1.33 : 1

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