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Primordial

  • 2015
  • TV-MA
  • 2h 2m
IMDb RATING
4.0/10
148
YOUR RATING
Primordial (2015)
Dark ComedyComedyCrimeDramaHorrorThriller

Valerie Graves, a misanthropic, disillusioned woman in her mid-twenties, is haunted by sadistic urges that she has struggled to repress since childhood.Valerie Graves, a misanthropic, disillusioned woman in her mid-twenties, is haunted by sadistic urges that she has struggled to repress since childhood.Valerie Graves, a misanthropic, disillusioned woman in her mid-twenties, is haunted by sadistic urges that she has struggled to repress since childhood.

  • Director
    • Eric Widing
  • Writer
    • Eric Widing
  • Stars
    • Marylee Osborne
    • Erin R. Ryan
    • Christopher Rowley
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • IMDb RATING
    4.0/10
    148
    YOUR RATING
    • Director
      • Eric Widing
    • Writer
      • Eric Widing
    • Stars
      • Marylee Osborne
      • Erin R. Ryan
      • Christopher Rowley
    • 11User reviews
    • 4Critic reviews
  • See production info at IMDbPro
  • See production info at IMDbPro
    • Awards
      • 2 nominations total

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    Marylee Osborne
    • Valerie Graves
    Erin R. Ryan
    • Tina
    Christopher Rowley
    • Andy Cheney
    Adam Scott Clevenger
    • Tayshawn
    • (as Adam Clevenger)
    Josh Miller
    • Smiddy
    Titus Young Wolverton
    Titus Young Wolverton
    • Tony
    Rachel Carter
    • Jeanette
    Henrique Couto
    Henrique Couto
    • Arms Dealer
    David Denoyer
    • Hammer Smashed Victim
    Bradley Diehl
    • Stanley
    Joni Durian
    • Tiffany
    Allison Egan
    • Cassidy
    Dale Grow
    • Party Creep
    Maggie Grow
    • Colleen
    John Bradley Hambrick
    • Strangled Man in Dream
    Joe Kidd
    Joe Kidd
    • Meth Addict
    Haley Madison
    • Female Massacre Victim
    Michael William Ralston
    • Murdered Gunman
    • Director
      • Eric Widing
    • Writer
      • Eric Widing
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    User reviews11

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    9linniallenla

    Widing's Best Work!

    Like a violent descent down a spiral staircase straight to hell, with every scene you follow a young fledgling criminal as she sinks further into depressive state and slowly gives over to the darkest urges of her sadistic mind. Ending up on the wrong side of the criminals, she now finds herself hunted and her whole world crumbling around her. Eric Widing delivers an absolute punch-to-the-gut with his dramatic and grim tale of a person on the edge of sanity who may be slipping into the abyss. These actresses put on an astonishing performance that is heavy, dramatic and extremely graphic, compared to what you normally see from most of them. Experience a dark ride while watching this film, and do be careful not to let yourself give over to those sinister urges that might be hiding inside of you.
    10noblesavageami

    Dark Art-House delivery...

    Eric is one of my favorite ' dark art chaos' directors. His work reminds me of Oliver Stone's 'Natural Born Killers'..there are messages inside of messages in an art house manner. It is like being on an evil desperate trip that confounds the mind. Made to make you look beneath the surface of our madness.

    The chaos makes me want to open the directors head and fumble about to see what makes him tick. The casting is done well, and each character brings their own depth into the art itself. We've got to remember, art is subjective and delivers to each individual accordingly.

    I want to see more work from Eric Widing!
    1Mike_T-Little_Mtn_Sound_Archive

    Bad movie bolstered by reviews from folks who have reviewed ONLY this movie

    As with all my reviews, no spoilers. Only discussion on content and production.

    It is rare that I watch a movie and come away feeling like it wasn't worth the watch, no matter how small, but this is one of the few that falls in to that boat. I read reviews for movies on IMDB for everything I watch, and nearly every one has at least one "smartallic" commenting about how the acting was horrid, the movie was the worst ever made, and that they want their 90 minutes back. I detest those reviews, as they're typically written by younger watchers who want one thing, and have their expectations set prior to watching. I attempt carrying a blank slate in to a film so that there are no expectations to be shattered, achieved, or exceeded. I watch a lot of independent, low budget flicks, so it helps when there are no preconceived notions.

    That said, "Primordial/Violent Instinct" feels like a disjointed student film in its presentation and represents nothing as the nearly perfect reviews make this out. After reading each review and seeing how stellar the movie was to these folks, I was excited to watch a well made violent film. This was not the case, as it looks and feels like a homemade film.

    As the movie progresses in to the plot line illustrated in the IMDB synopsis. I actually thought it could be a decent watch, especially since it's not even 90 minutes, but was immediately turned off by the opening scenes. Once it hit the dialog it was clear that it would be a tough watch. Here's why:

    • the actors are not pros. The actors aren't even amateurs, at least based on their skill. The speaking is wooden and is delivered in monotone, with no inflection, no body language, no anything. I fully understand the direction taken here; the director hoped for an off kilter, creepy, dark movie where the characters contribute to the antithetical wickedness of the story. Sadly, the actors were so bad that this was completely missed.
    • too many "effects." Again, it is somewhat apparent what the director is going for, but the weird lighting, the digitally added screen fx (e.g. static or wavy lines) add absolutely nothing. Not only do they add nothing but they become cumbersome and annoying, especially with the terrible acting underneath. I enjoy odd fx like this when used sparingly, and for adding to a particular scene, but it's as if the director doesn't know any better, and figures "hey...the more the better."
    the music is awful. Once again, it's as if the director doesn't know any better. A film "score" should complement and add to whatever is onscreen, not detract and the music is just not good.
    • as if you didn't see this coming, the directing is high school level at best. I'll leave it at that, as it would be overly verbose to criticize everything wrong directorially.
    • the overall production is poor. I'm used to microbudget films, as not everybody who wants to make movies is funded by studios. I've seen some excellent flicks with budgets of $2500. It doesn't happen every day, but there are a fair number of decent movies made on little to no budget, so lack of money is no excuse. Ultimately it all comes down to a lack of vision and lack of execution. The editing is horrid, the special fx (if you can even call them that) are not special at all, the scenery is nothing more than your buddy's house down the street, the film looks like a home camcorder, the sound fades in and out as if it was only picked up by whatever mic was on the camcorder, and there is no evidence of any real post-production. Oh wait...they added all those visual fx and music, so there must have been some post...just nothing worth noting.


    Sadly, I really wanted to like this, as I enjoy dystopian stories with misanthropic characters. The long and the short is simple...the actual plot could make a decent film if accompanied by qualified actors and a decent director. Forget all the issues with editing, sound, post-productions...I can overlook any/all of that if the acting is convincing...something is NOT so with this one.

    There's really nothing more to add about this, and as of April 2019 this sits at an almost-6 rating. I can't imagine anyone finding enough in the flick to make the average this high. I appreciate when someone makes a film they are passionate about, even when it's not very interesting. This one, however, never even gets off the ground. Every aspect but the plot is worthless, in my opinion. Thankfully it wasn't overly long.

    If you watch the movie, give me a thumbs up if you agree or a thumbs down if you disagree. Always curious to see what people think of my opinions.
    10jedispyder

    Eric Widing introduces us to a character's horrifying downward spiral

    This is writer/director Eric Widing's second full feature film. The first, Hellhounds, was a unique film that assaulted the senses with wide use of color and sound. In Primordial, Widing still makes use of sound to assault the senses but makes beautiful use of black and white for serene nature scenes. It was unique to see some of the high paced action with heavy metal music lead into these beautiful, serene scenes shot in black and white.

    Widing does a spectacular job with the writing and directing. Widing stated a lot of his inspiration came from things that have happened to him, that he's heard has happened, or that he's dreamed. There is a particular scene that he stated in the commentary was inspired by a dream which is truly horrifying for the viewer. The writing itself is very down-to-earth and the casual conversations felt like something friends would normally have.

    The actors were phenomenal with Marylee Osborne portraying a woman, Valerie, who is already down and out of luck finally getting to act out her darkest fantasies and going on a downward spiral into deeper alcoholism. Erin Ryan portrays Tina, one of Valerie's closest friend, who is going through some trouble herself which gives Valerie something to hold onto for majority of the film. Adam Clevenger is Tayshawn, a gangster that upon first meeting appears to be a stereotype but soon shows how well developed his character is. Clevenger brilliantly describes and performs horrendous acts with no remorse.

    Widing also inserted several easter eggs for fans of the various indie films from Ohio that the fans will get excited to see.

    Overall an excellent film that is highly recommended!
    9williamholt818

    Return of Widing

    His first film was great! Now his 2nd film is taking that place. Let me start off by saying Eric is a swell guy. His previous film HellHounds was wonderful! This is a indie film like no other. a whole new level of awesome fun! I mostly deal with horror...so me watching this is a change. Marylee Osborne does WONDERFUL in any role she is in. She brings her character Valerie Graves to life in this film. we get a few other faces from other films in here as well...Haley Madison, Joni Durian, Bradley Diehl, and the kooky but cool Henrique Couto. What can I say...its films like this that need to have more attention. I loved the story from start to finish. I watched this film 4 times already... while it is a 2 hour long film and seems like the movie will go on forever I never found myself bored. I got a few chuckles out of the film and I recommend it to anyone and please check out Eric's other film Hell Hounds if you haven't seen it. 9/10

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    • Trivia
      The "fish hook scene" was inspired by a bizarre, but most likely fictitious, story that one of Eric Widing's high school friends told about an ex girlfriend's strange sexual preferences.
    • Quotes

      Party Creep: Hey baby.

    • Alternate versions
      A 79 minute producer's cut titled "Violent Instinct" was released in July 2016 for online streaming. The most drastic change between this version and the full length version is the intro, which opens with the black and white scene with the ghost in the attic and treats it as a dream, as opposed to the original version in which it was an ambiguous final scene. This version also cuts a lot of the first act, removing a few whole character's such as the landlady Nichole, the weird neighbor, the Boddicker family and a majority of the early scenes with Colleen. This version also shortens or removes many of the humorous scenes and has completely removed any mention or implications of the "fish hook" sex act.
    • Connections
      Edited from Haunted House on Sorority Row (2014)
    • Soundtracks
      Prevalent Winds
      Written and Performed by Primalfrost

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    • Release date
      • November 20, 2015 (United States)
    • Country of origin
      • United States
    • Official site
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    • Language
      • English
    • Also known as
      • Violent Instinct
    • Filming locations
      • Dayton, Ohio, USA(Valerie's House)
    • Production company
      • Eric Widing Films
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    • Budget
      • $1,000 (estimated)
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    • Runtime
      • 2h 2m(122 min)
    • Color
      • Color
    • Sound mix
      • Stereo
    • Aspect ratio
      • 16:9 HD

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