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Dois jovens delinquentes estão se distanciando, pois um está crescendo e o outro está permanecendo jovem e imprudente.Dois jovens delinquentes estão se distanciando, pois um está crescendo e o outro está permanecendo jovem e imprudente.Dois jovens delinquentes estão se distanciando, pois um está crescendo e o outro está permanecendo jovem e imprudente.
- Direção
- Roteiristas
- Artistas
Francis X. McCarthy
- Mr. Carlson
- (as Frank McCarthy)
Ramon Estevez
- Mike Chambers
- (as Ramon Sheen)
Robert Swan
- Smitty
- (as Bob Swan)
Paul M. Lane
- Paul
- (as Paul Lane)
- Direção
- Roteiristas
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- Produção, bilheteria e muito mais no IMDbPro
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Only thing wrong with this movie-- the decision to "update" the story to make it contemporary. Some novels lend themselves to that kind of reinterpretation easily, but S.E. Hinton's early works aren't among them. The book, set in the late 60s, was essentially a follow-up to "The Outsiders," picking up a few months after its TV Series left off. The character of Ponyboy was taken out of this film for obvious reasons (why would he still be 16 in 1985?), but other Outsiders (most notably Tim Shepard) remained intact without aging a day-- effectively destroying any continuity it might have had with the film it was undoubtedly cashing in on. As result of this questionable rewrite, the novel's focus on the greaser/soc conflict dying off is completely absent, as are other time period-specific subplots. Perhaps the filmmakers wanted this to stand on its own from Coppola's then-recent "Outsiders" adaptation, but this likely hurt "That Was Then...This Is Now" in more ways than it helped it.
I always loved S.E. Hinton's novels as a kid: The Outsiders, Rumble Fish (which in my opinion, is the greatest film adaptation in the series despite everyone's fascination with The Outsiders), Tex, and That Was Then This is Now.
'That Was Then, This is Now' was the last film adaptation (although the TV series for 'The Outsiders' follows five years later after the release of this movie). I would've attribute the mediocrity of the movie, or at least the inability to really put forth all that the novel did, was because it was not directed by Francis Ford Coppola (who directs 'The Outsiders,' and does a fabulous job with 'Rumble Fish'), except 'Tex,' which was a pretty good movie, was likewise not directed by Coppola.
I think it is in part the chemistry among the characters. The whole mood looks like something out of a music video, with Craig Scheffer coming off more like a guy who broke off a long relationship with a girlfriend rather than dealing with a rambunctious brother (in addition to other things). Plus, as another viewer already mentioned, they shifted the focus on characters so that superstar Emilio Esteves becomes the center of attention. Most of S.E. Hinton's novel always portrayed a struggle from the brother who is looking out at things that, by his perception, have become (or always were) seriously out of control. (See 'Tex' and 'Rumble Fish'). And yes, they unfortunately acquiesced to the Hollywood happy ending, and in the sappiest way, despite all of the problems that the characters endure.
Unlike previous adaptations of Hinton's novels, even those not directed by Coppola, they really fail to portray the struggles that the characters realize in the book. And, lack of developing the story on this point really makes you only half appreciate the characters and their conflicts (and in this case, not even their resolution).
'That Was Then, This is Now' was the last film adaptation (although the TV series for 'The Outsiders' follows five years later after the release of this movie). I would've attribute the mediocrity of the movie, or at least the inability to really put forth all that the novel did, was because it was not directed by Francis Ford Coppola (who directs 'The Outsiders,' and does a fabulous job with 'Rumble Fish'), except 'Tex,' which was a pretty good movie, was likewise not directed by Coppola.
I think it is in part the chemistry among the characters. The whole mood looks like something out of a music video, with Craig Scheffer coming off more like a guy who broke off a long relationship with a girlfriend rather than dealing with a rambunctious brother (in addition to other things). Plus, as another viewer already mentioned, they shifted the focus on characters so that superstar Emilio Esteves becomes the center of attention. Most of S.E. Hinton's novel always portrayed a struggle from the brother who is looking out at things that, by his perception, have become (or always were) seriously out of control. (See 'Tex' and 'Rumble Fish'). And yes, they unfortunately acquiesced to the Hollywood happy ending, and in the sappiest way, despite all of the problems that the characters endure.
Unlike previous adaptations of Hinton's novels, even those not directed by Coppola, they really fail to portray the struggles that the characters realize in the book. And, lack of developing the story on this point really makes you only half appreciate the characters and their conflicts (and in this case, not even their resolution).
My grade 10 ESL students read the book and then watched this film version. They were not impressed at all and everyone agreed that it is not a good portrayal of the book. Some essential scenes are missing such as Mike Chamber's story which helps the reader really understand the motivation behind Bryon's change of heart. It would really have not been that difficult to just follow what was written in the book. Someone needs to be blamed for this poor excuse of a film!
The desperate male students in the class were hoping that the Angela character would have been as hot as she is described in the book!
Read the book instead.
The desperate male students in the class were hoping that the Angela character would have been as hot as she is described in the book!
Read the book instead.
I was born in 1970. While many movies such as Pretty In Pink, etc. were bigger hits, these movies along with a couple of others were incredibly important in what it means to be a friend, what it meant to grow up, and what it meant to grow up in the 80's. It wasn't a "great" movie, but it was a great movie for me and is a great movie about growing up, deciding what is important, forming morals. Will be on my buy list when I get a little money.
I read the book for this movie and it was really good and very emotional to read as the characters change. The movie how ever is so ridiculous it's funny. For some reason it was changed to the 80's instead of the 60's which completely ruined the movie for me also making the sheppards immortal by doing this. Also since in the 80's it got rid of the hippies and changed it to punks but it is hard to take people that are supposed to be mean seriously when they're wearing a mesh tank top and eyeliner. And the way it's shot is just ridiculous and very over dramatic (classic 80's) but a great movie for a great laugh if I'm being honest.
Você sabia?
- CuriosidadesEmilio Estevez's original script followed the book's ending more closely. Paramount Pictures executives forced Estevez to re-write the ending to be more "optimistic" and "realistic".
- Erros de gravaçãoIn just about every scene where a bus is involved, it's bus #461.
- Citações
Mark Jennings: Let's move out... Teabag!
- ConexõesFeatured in Randy Wayne & Carroll Sue Hill: That Was Then, This Is Now (1985)
- Trilhas sonorasBorn Alone
Written by Scott Lipsker & Mike Kapitan
Performed by Kipp Lennon
Produced by Scott Lipsker & Mike Kapitan
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- That Was Then... This Is Now
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Bilheteria
- Faturamento bruto nos EUA e Canadá
- US$ 8.630.068
- Fim de semana de estreia nos EUA e Canadá
- US$ 2.502.780
- 10 de nov. de 1985
- Faturamento bruto mundial
- US$ 8.630.068
- Tempo de duração
- 1 h 42 min(102 min)
- Cor
- Mixagem de som
- Proporção
- 1.85 : 1
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