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Heróis para a Eternidade

Título original: The Thin Red Line
  • 1964
  • 1 h 39 min
AVALIAÇÃO DA IMDb
6,7/10
891
SUA AVALIAÇÃO
Keir Dullea in Heróis para a Eternidade (1964)
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Adicionar um enredo no seu idiomaIn Guadalcanal during World War II, a private and his sergeant clash during the heat of battle with the Japanese.In Guadalcanal during World War II, a private and his sergeant clash during the heat of battle with the Japanese.In Guadalcanal during World War II, a private and his sergeant clash during the heat of battle with the Japanese.

  • Direção
    • Andrew Marton
  • Roteiristas
    • James Jones
    • Bernard Gordon
  • Artistas
    • Keir Dullea
    • Jack Warden
    • James Philbrook
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  • AVALIAÇÃO DA IMDb
    6,7/10
    891
    SUA AVALIAÇÃO
    • Direção
      • Andrew Marton
    • Roteiristas
      • James Jones
      • Bernard Gordon
    • Artistas
      • Keir Dullea
      • Jack Warden
      • James Philbrook
    • 31Avaliações de usuários
    • 4Avaliações da crítica
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    Keir Dullea
    Keir Dullea
    • Pvt. Doll
    Jack Warden
    Jack Warden
    • First Sgt. Welsh
    James Philbrook
    James Philbrook
    • Col. Tall
    Bob Kanter
    Bob Kanter
    • Fife
    • (as Robert Kanter)
    Ray Daley
    • Capt. Stone
    Merlyn Yordan
    • Judy
    Kieron Moore
    Kieron Moore
    • Lt. Band
    Jim Gillen
    • Capt. Gaff
    • (as James Gillen)
    Charles Stalnaker
    Steve Rowland
    Steve Rowland
    • Mazzi
    Gary Lasdun
    Eddy King
      Jeffrey O'Kelly
      Jack Gaskins
      Joe Collins
      Graham Sumner
      Thomas Freeman
      Stephen Young
      Stephen Young
      • Stack
      • (as Stephen Levy)
      • Direção
        • Andrew Marton
      • Roteiristas
        • James Jones
        • Bernard Gordon
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      Avaliações de usuários31

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      Witt-7

      Jones' ideas, kind of.

      The first interpretation of James Jones' novel is an OK movie. Nothing really stuck with me, though. It condenses about five characters each into the two lead characters in order to make a well rounded film that fairly expresses Jones' ideas on men in war. It is an interesting psychological study on men, not under stress, but facing death, either from a distance, or up close. There are some great moments in this, and the acting is superb. I did think, though, that the sexual feelings of the novel did not translate so well into the early 60's film. The battle are also utterly unconvincing. Death is still portrayed as a somewhat painless event (with the near exception of one great scene), it leans more to the earlier gung ho war movies than, say, Paths of Glory or All Quiet on the Western Front. The battle scenes are ultimately silly and cartoonish. Two men climb a cliff because the valley below is mined. One knocks over a big rock that causes a chain reaction and all the rocks fall into the valley and clear the mine field. This kind scene is not meant to be surreal, so it loses on the realism scale. This is not the way Jones wanted war depicted. The kind of silly inventiveness of the battle scenes does not exist in all out combat. But, I must say, it does succeed in some scenes, and the performances are all great. I must also say that the end is extremely powerful. It made all the cheesey set pieces and battle scenes disappear from my mind. That last shot is the tone of Jones' novels, a tone From Here to Eternity got right all the way through, and Terrence Malick's Thin Red Line also successfully portrayed (But stepped away to alow contemplation, not to experience.) That last scene makes it a good movie, but it couldn've been done better. Actually, it was done better. I still recommend it. It has its ideas in the right place, but its execution is a bit showy and not realistic enough.
      7Phoebe_Raven

      A good attempt.

      This version of James Jones' book follows the plot of the novel closely and actually received very high praise from the author himself. Jones wrote a letter to the director saying "Very rarely does an author get to write a letter to a filmmaker to say that he has captured the author's intention to the highest level possible." Jones was very pleased with the outcome of this movie, while the 1998 version heavily strays from his book. For example, Witt and Walsh in the 1998 version both quote a lot from another Jones novel, called "From Here To Eternity", and not from "A Thin Red Line". The main storyline, namely the clash between the Private and his Captain, is almost completely left out of the Malick film. In making the book into a movie, the 1964 film succeeds. Which is not to say Malick didn't create a riveting film in 1998, he just didn't really turn the book into a movie.
      6PKC

      A solid effort

      A solid effort hampered by the the filmmaking conventions of that time. Some of the acting is amateurish, and the dialogue stilted. But it does confront the serious moral issues of war, unlike most war movies of that era. The theme is essentially the same as the current version -- that is, how does man endure in war? It presents several models for survival. Many of the scenes are exactly the same as in the 1998 version, though it includes others that are not found in Malick. This attempt focuses more on the relationship between Welsh (Jack Warden) and Doll (Keir Dullea). The music is awful, like something out of a cheesy 50s horror flick. Also, it's amazing how much Guadalcanal resembles the high desert of Southern California. But this is well worth a rent if one has the proper expectations...
      7ma-cortes

      Intense and bloody fight for Guadalcanal but shot in Spanish outdoors

      First adaptation of the James Jones novel about the battle for Guadalcanal on the famous Pacific toll in which a typical crew of Marines fighting the ¨Yellow Menace¨ and it results to be one of the best American films about the Pacific conflict during WWII . Soldier Doll (Keir Dullea)separated from his recent spouse (Yordan) after only few days of marriage, spontaneously decides that he'll no longer obey the orders of his First Sergeant , following his own will instead . What follows are a series of bloody attacks, on the river , lake , mountains in which the rifle company fighting Japanese who hold killers gun-machines . As battle experience hardens soldiers and Colonel (James Philbrook) orders captain Stone (Daley) leading to the taking of the Elephant hill in the battle of Guadalcanal . Sgt. Welsh, (Jack Warden) Doll's superior immediate grows the mutual hatred but at the ending the two contenders change to affinity , and getting reciprocal respect .

      Based on James Jones 's first hand account of the notorious battle is well adapted to screen by Bernard Gordon . This dark story produced by prestigious Philip Yordan is immensely exciting , firmly characterized on its two main roles and in places very moving too . Visually stunning and focused on the battle of wits of a Private and a Sergeant and on men's determination to survive his tour of duty . The film brings home the true horror of battle and the meaninglessness of it all and effectively portrays the deshumanizing effects of war . The troublesome relationship between Keir Dullea and Jack Warden makes the biggest impression and delivers the interesting main plot . Combat images are naturally , well filmed and effective , getting spectacular scenes. Atmospheric cinematography in black and white by the Spanish Manuel Berenguer . The motion picture is professionally directed by Andrew Marton.

      Another tale based on the 1962 novel by James Jones was directed by Terence Malick with star-laden cast as Jim Cazievel as Private protagonist , Sean Penn as the Sergeant , and many others as George Clooney, Nick Nolte and Woody Harrelson . Furthermore , another important film about Guadalcanal battle turns out to be ¨Guadalcanal diary¨ by Lewis Seiler with Anthony Quinn, Preston Foster, Lloyd Nolan and Richard Conte .
      Daniel-27

      Not at All What James Jones was writing about

      The last line in the novel reads as follows:"One day one of their number would write a book about it all, but none of them would believe it, because none of them would remember it that way."

      Jones was saying that their is a tendency to (for lack of a better term) gloss over what happened in war, and the way people write about war, and the way people film war, is not at all how veterans remember it.

      This film is not really at all what Jones was writing about. The film fails to find any horror in the war-- it fails to show the war as written by James Jones.

      It is rather interesting to watch, because it shares many scenes with the Terrence Malick film (which is the far superior work), and it is fun to compare the scenes.

      That said, the two actors who play Col. Tall and Stone (Stein in the book, Staros in the Malick film) are both laugh out loud bad, and seem to be completely ignorant of how to effectively portray their characters (Nolte and Koteas, on the other hand, aren't).

      But to give the film some credit, it features a great performance by Kier Dullea or 2001: A Space Oddyssey fame, and an interesting one from Jack Warden as Welsh.

      I think that the film tries to show the horror, but the production code, the script, or director didn't want to or couldn't figure out how to. I appreciated this film more for what it tried to say than what it actually said or HOW it said it. I would marginally reccommend it, mainly to those unfamiliar with the superior Malick film.

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        The film's title comes from James Jones's novel and, in turn, from an old saying. In the movie, Captain Stone, played by Ray Daley, says, "I remember an old Midwest saying, 'There's only a thin red line between the sane and the mad.' "

        The original 'Thin Red Line' refers to the routing of a Russian cavalry charge by the Sutherland Highlanders 93rd (Highland) Regiment during the Battle of Balaklava on 25 October 1854, during the Crimean War.
      • Erros de gravação
        For some reason the Japanese soldiers are at times are armed with German Schmeisser SMG's.
      • Conexões
        Featured in The 80th Annual Academy Awards (2008)

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        • 2 de maio de 1964 (Estados Unidos da América)
      • País de origem
        • Estados Unidos da América
      • Idiomas
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        • Security Pictures
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