[go: up one dir, main page]

    Calendario delle usciteI migliori 250 filmI film più popolariEsplora film per genereCampione d’incassiOrari e bigliettiNotizie sui filmFilm indiani in evidenza
    Cosa c’è in TV e in streamingLe migliori 250 serieLe serie più popolariEsplora serie per genereNotizie TV
    Cosa guardareTrailer più recentiOriginali IMDbPreferiti IMDbIn evidenza su IMDbGuida all'intrattenimento per la famigliaPodcast IMDb
    OscarsEmmysSan Diego Comic-ConSummer Watch GuideToronto Int'l Film FestivalSTARmeter AwardsAwards CentralFestival CentralTutti gli eventi
    Nato oggiCelebrità più popolariNotizie sulle celebrità
    Centro assistenzaZona contributoriSondaggi
Per i professionisti del settore
  • Lingua
  • Completamente supportata
  • English (United States)
    Parzialmente supportata
  • Français (Canada)
  • Français (France)
  • Deutsch (Deutschland)
  • हिंदी (भारत)
  • Italiano (Italia)
  • Português (Brasil)
  • Español (España)
  • Español (México)
Lista Video
Accedi
  • Completamente supportata
  • English (United States)
    Parzialmente supportata
  • Français (Canada)
  • Français (France)
  • Deutsch (Deutschland)
  • हिंदी (भारत)
  • Italiano (Italia)
  • Português (Brasil)
  • Español (España)
  • Español (México)
Usa l'app
  • Il Cast e la Troupe
  • Recensioni degli utenti
  • Quiz
  • Domande frequenti
IMDbPro

Vincere

  • 2009
  • T
  • 2h 8min
VALUTAZIONE IMDb
6,8/10
6046
LA TUA VALUTAZIONE
Vincere (2009)
The story of Mussolini's secret lover, Ida Dalser, and their son Albino.
Riproduci trailer1:59
2 video
30 foto
BiografiaDrammaRomanticismo

La storia dell'amante segreta di Mussolini, Ida Dalser, e del loro figlio Albino.La storia dell'amante segreta di Mussolini, Ida Dalser, e del loro figlio Albino.La storia dell'amante segreta di Mussolini, Ida Dalser, e del loro figlio Albino.

  • Regia
    • Marco Bellocchio
  • Sceneggiatura
    • Marco Bellocchio
    • Daniela Ceselli
  • Star
    • Giovanna Mezzogiorno
    • Filippo Timi
    • Fausto Russo Alesi
  • Vedi le informazioni sulla produzione su IMDbPro
  • VALUTAZIONE IMDb
    6,8/10
    6046
    LA TUA VALUTAZIONE
    • Regia
      • Marco Bellocchio
    • Sceneggiatura
      • Marco Bellocchio
      • Daniela Ceselli
    • Star
      • Giovanna Mezzogiorno
      • Filippo Timi
      • Fausto Russo Alesi
    • 36Recensioni degli utenti
    • 117Recensioni della critica
    • 85Metascore
  • Vedi le informazioni sulla produzione su IMDbPro
    • Premi
      • 47 vittorie e 40 candidature totali

    Video2

    Vincere: U.S. Trailer
    Trailer 1:59
    Vincere: U.S. Trailer
    Vincere: International Trailer
    Trailer 1:40
    Vincere: International Trailer
    Vincere: International Trailer
    Trailer 1:40
    Vincere: International Trailer

    Foto30

    Visualizza poster
    Visualizza poster
    Visualizza poster
    Visualizza poster
    Visualizza poster
    Visualizza poster
    + 24
    Visualizza poster

    Interpreti principali52

    Modifica
    Giovanna Mezzogiorno
    Giovanna Mezzogiorno
    • Ida Dalser
    Filippo Timi
    Filippo Timi
    • Benito Mussolini…
    Fausto Russo Alesi
    Fausto Russo Alesi
    • Riccardo Paicher
    Michela Cescon
    Michela Cescon
    • Rachele Mussolini
    Pier Giorgio Bellocchio
    Pier Giorgio Bellocchio
    • Pietro Fedele
    Corrado Invernizzi
    Corrado Invernizzi
    • Dottor Cappelletti
    Paolo Pierobon
    Paolo Pierobon
    • Giulio Bernardi
    Bruno Cariello
    Bruno Cariello
    • Giudice
    Francesca Picozza
    • Adelina Dalser
    Simona Nobili
    • Madre Superiora
    Vanessa Scalera
    • Suora Misericordiosa
    Giovanna Mori
    • Tedesca
    Patrizia Bettini
    • Cantante
    Silvia Ferretti
    • Scarpette rosse
    Corinne Castelli
    • Lacrime
    Giovanni Vettorazzo
    • Poliziotto di guardia
    Giorgio Santomaso
    • Secondo poliziotto di guardia
    Fabrizio Costella
    • Il piccolo Benito Albino
    • Regia
      • Marco Bellocchio
    • Sceneggiatura
      • Marco Bellocchio
      • Daniela Ceselli
    • Tutti gli interpreti e le troupe
    • Produzione, botteghino e altro su IMDbPro

    Recensioni degli utenti36

    6,86K
    1
    2
    3
    4
    5
    6
    7
    8
    9
    10

    Recensioni in evidenza

    5oOgiandujaOo_and_Eddy_Merckx

    Initial energy dissipates into aimlessness

    My brother was in attendance for this one, and we were pretty much in unison in opinion. The first act of Vincere ("Win!") is quite extraordinary. In fact we both had the spine chills for the credits which featured a display of enormous mounted ship cannons.

    It's a film about the relationship between Benito Mussolini and Ida Dalser. The first act, where they are actually together, is extraordinary. Mussolini is a power hungry madman, incapable of a non-hyperbolic thought, he quotes Napoleon at will and ravishes Ida in the moonlight of their cavernous apartment. He's the ultimate political opportunist, and Ida falls in love with his pure thuggery, despite his obviously third-rate intellect. I then had a problem for the remainder of the film, because I was expected to sympathise with Ida, whom Mussolini pushes away, even though she is a brute-loving nincompoop.

    Despite Giovanna Mezzogiorno's excellent acting as Ida Dalser, it's like Bellochio isn't sure where to take the story, as if life doesn't really fit into his narrative structure. I remembered reading Robert Graves' book Count Belisarius as a teen, which starts off as a stonking good read about the adventures of a general in the Byzantine Empire, but then becomes far to encumbered with an adherence to history, that almost makes the latter part of the experience like reading a textbook, a real chore.

    As another reviewer has pointed out, the actor in the movie who plays Mussolini, Filippo Timi, is far more interesting and nuanced than the actual historical figure, and it's simply ridiculous when we see newsreel footage and have to see Mussolini the real man, followed by Timi in the next scene. I have to hand it to Italians that they certainly have a talent for electing verminous cretins to high office that has lasted to this very day. You see the newsreel footage and it's impossible not to titter.

    The film in retrospect is simply a misadventure in my opinion.
    8Eternality

    A decent entry into Palme d'Or selection, but it is by no means stunning.

    In competition for 2009's Palme d'Or, Vincere is a new film by Marco Bellocchio. It is set in the early 20th century in Italy, during a dangerous time of oppression and political revolution, which cumulated in the evil that was Fascism. The story is not about the horrors of Fascism per se or how it rose to become an ideology matched in its ghastliness only by Nazism, but of its dictator Benito Mussolini and his private life.

    Vincere tells the true story of Mussolini (Filippo Timi) and Ida Dalser (Giovana Mezzogiorno), his secret lover whom he had a passionate but somewhat sordid affair with. In the film, Dalser gives birth to a son who is taken away from her. She is also sent to a mental institution for claiming that she is the "rightful wife" of Mussolini; the latter is married and denies the affair with Dalser.

    Much of Vincere revolves around Dalser, whom is portrayed as a sympathetic figure, a person who loved and trusted Mussolini with all her heart, but ended up suffering the ignominy of being a "prisoner of a vile dictator". Mezzogiorno's performance is noteworthy. She switches effortlessly from a seductive woman who oozes sexual allure (she appears completely nude in a number of shots) to a frustrated person devoid of the freedom to pursue personal justice.

    Timi also plays Mussolini with a fierce affection. But he fizzles out in the second half of the picture after Bellocchio rightly gives more screen time to Mezzogiorno. Even though the core of Vincere rests upon the relationship (or lack of) between Mussolini and Dalser, the political themes of the film remain in the consciousness of the viewer throughout.

    Bellocchio inserts old black-and-white footages of history into the film, drawing our attention to the fervent and violent political and nationalistic attitudes of that era. The shouts of "Italia! Italia!" and the real Mussolini giving a powerful speech about war are, at the very least, disquieting. Matched with a loud, rousing score with lots of brass and choir, the film is quite strong in creating a mood of paranoia.

    Vincere somewhat ends too quickly. Even for a film that is slightly longer than two hours, it seems like more exposition is warranted and would have been greeted more positively than not. Thus, the film feels incomplete but it is still a well-made film with its cinematography, in particular, an aspect to appreciate.

    It may seem ironic but in Vincere's most emotional sequence, Bellocchio uses clips from Chaplin's The Kid (1921). In The Kid, Chaplin's character is devastated when his young son is taken away from him by the state. Dalser, who watches the film in an open-air screening, draws strength from it in the hope that she will one day see her son again.

    Bellocchio's Vincere is a decent entry into the Palme d'Or selection, but it is by no means a stunning piece of cinema. The private story of Mussolini (or rather Dalser's) is compelling enough to last the two hours, though it would have been better received with a more complete approach.

    SCORE: 7.5/10 (www.filmnomenon.blogspot.com) All rights reserved!
    8Chris Knipp

    Mussolini's fascism as seen by a wronged woman

    Six years after his intimate reimagining of the Aldo Moro kidnapping that rocked Italy in the Seventies in 'Buongiorno, notte,' Bellocchio has made another haunting and even more sweeping and iconic historical film. 'Vincere' is about Benito Mussolini's secret first wife and son, who were hidden away and both died in insane asylums. 'Vincere' depicts a strange, distorted period in Italian history, and skillfully melds stock footage with recreations, black and white with color (rich in reds, alternating with ashen grays), public tumult with private torment. Visually lush and full of chiaroscuro, 'Vincere is also a showcase for the talents of Giovanna Mezzogiorno as Ida Dalzer, the woman who met Benito Mussolini when he was the editor of Avanti, an ardent Socialist with strong populist, anti-monarchical, anti-clerical views, who dramatically dares God, if He exists, to strike him down.

    Opening sequences alternate between 1907 when Ida first meets Mussolini (Filippo Timi) in Trent, and 1914 in Milan. She is a respectable middle-class woman with a beauty salon. On the eve of WWI, he shifts from pacifist liberal to pro-war rightist. Deathly afraid of ending in mediocrity, he is ravenous for power. Ida intensely supports him whatever his direction, and sells all her possessions, including jewels, furniture, and her business, to support his newspaper. This leads to the founding of the paper "Il Popolo d'Italia," which becomes a fascist rallying-point. The film makes clear that she is madly in love but never mad. It also makes clear that though he declares his love of her and fathers a son named Benito, born just before he goes off to the front, whom he acknowledges, and they evidently marry, he keeps a certain distance.

    In WWI Mussolini is wounded in the army and is pleased to be congratulated by the king. When Ida finds him he is being tended in hospital by a new lover, a woman named Rachele (Michela Cescon). This is the last time Ida sees him in person.

    As Mussolini rises to power and becomes the dictator known as "Il Duce," linking himself with the ancient Roman emperors and dreaming of world domination, Ida is more and more kept away from him, and appears as a figure on the outskirts of power, at the center only of sporadic and operatic encounters during which she pleads for recognition and attention, only to be swept aside. She has a marriage certificate but it becomes lost. All her papers are taken. Mussolini remains with Rachele, is married to her, and fathers children by her. He conceals that he was married to Ida.

    Ida, who calls herself Ida Mussolini and her son Benito or Benitino Albino Mussolini, is a woman obsessed, whom others urge to move on, but will not give up her pursuit of her idol and the man she believes to be the love of her life. For a while she is put under a kind of house arrest with her sister, then confined in one insane asylum and then another, while her son is taken away and sent to boarding school. She writes letters of protest to everyone, including the king and the pope; this of course only makes her seem crazy, but in a hearing it's evident that she is tragically obsessed, but lucid, and in fact she is never declared insane. A psychiatrist (Corrado Invernizzi) vows to help her, but she is taken elsewhere before he can do so.

    The film is rife with operatic passages featuring bright lights, dark shadows, violent storms and heavy rainfall, and yet retains its own kind of lucidity; it's clear that the country and not Ida is mad, and Il Duce is the head madman. The most haunting scene shows an actual speech by Mussolini at the height of his power in which the gestures and facial contortions are not only ugly and strange but unmistakably those of a dangerous madman. Cut to the now grown son of Ida, doing an imitation of Mussolini's speechifying and himself appearing genuinely deranged. Records show both mother and son received treatments that were akin to torture, and Ida was incarcerated for eleven years. The son died at the age of 26; Ida Dalser died at 57, 30 years after she first met Mussolini Italy's eventual fascist dictator.

    Since the film's protagonist is on the periphery, it makes sense that eventually we know Mussolini only through the newsreels she occasionally sees, which are brilliantly integrated into the film; it's hard to convey how striking and integral these images are. There are also haunting still portraits of Ida, showing her at progressive stages of suffering. The film's sense of pictorialism is augmented by a sense of the visual language of the period, heightened by a scene in which Mussolini is introduced to the Italian Futurists and their paintings, and excellent use is made of Futurist and Fascist graphic design and fonts. The sound track is powerful but muted.

    The film in fact is most satisfying visually, and despite Giovanna Mezzogiorno's dedication to her performance as the independent yet long-suffering woman, there is a lack of three-dimensionality in the characterizations: the figures are monumental but not quite human. The focus becomes a bit distant even on Ida as her torments increase, and there is nothing about the private life of Il Duce. Finally there is not the intimacy Bellocchio achieved in 'Good Morning, Night,' except in the first intimate scenes between the young (still hairy) Benito and Ida. Nonetheless, the effect of the whole film is both sick-making and scary.

    Though Bellocchio's style here is operatic, it's a swift-moving, elegant, contemporary kind of opera, and it works.

    An IFC film, 'Vincere' was nominated for the Golden Palm at Cannes and was also shown at Telluride, and Toronto. I saw it at a preview screening of the New York Film Festival.
    7Bunuel1976

    VINCERE (Marco Bellocchio, 2009) ***

    Bellocchio's latest is yet another look at a controversial Italian political figure, Benito Mussolini; however, it deals with a phase of his life which was kept 'in the shadows' for a great many years – the dictator's first marriage, which even yielded him a son! As was the case with GOOD MORNING, NIGHT (2003) – in which the film-maker had treated the abduction and execution of ex-Prime Minister Aldo Moro – the politician emerges not to be the central figure after all (remaining, similarly, little more than a cipher); here, in fact, the protagonist is Mussolini's secreted – or, more precisely, rejected – wife, who even winds up in a mental institution (a fate which also befalls their offspring, where both would die eventually)! The meticulous period reconstruction (and emphatic score) was to be expected, yet the human drama – and, by extension, the fine leading performances of Giovanna Mezzogiorno and Fabrizio Timi – is ultimately what renders the movie compelling; interestingly, while Mussolini as an older man is shown only via authentic newsreel footage, Timi plays both father and son as a young adult! Needless to say, the director distances himself from the Fascist fervor which had gripped his nation in those pivotal war years – choosing to depict Mussolini as godless (the film begins with him defying the Almighty to strike him down) and inhuman (both in the treatment of his first family and in his animalistic sexual prowess: the latter scenes, of which there a few, would otherwise have no discernible point) and even goes so far as to ridicule him by having son repeatedly caricature father's famously arrogant mannerisms while speechifying (with this in mind, the title – which translates to "Winning" – is clearly ironic, since what it presents is anything but the correct fighting spirit)!
    9druid333-2

    Transformation,From Another Perspective

    In the past sixty,plus years since Italian dictator,Benito Mussolini was deposed from power,he has only been painted as the brutal,power mad despot,generally depicted in films. What is little known is that he originally started out in the Italian Socialist Party,who was duped to join the Fascist movement,after World War 1. What is also less known was he was married to another woman (Ida Dalser). 'Vincere' (basically Italian for victory,or 'Win' as the film's title translates to in the English subtitled edition,here)is the sad tale of Dalser,when she fell head over heels for the young Benito Mussolini,when he was a young,head strong man in love with Marxist theory (he is shown early on dismissing the existence of God to an outraged crowd). As the years move on,the young Benito marries Ida,has one son with her,becomes seduced by the warped ideas of nationalism,which bloomed into all out Fascism. From here on, the focus is on Ida,who starts to see her Benito less & less,until she pretty much is rendered invisible to Benito (their marriage is regarded non existent,much to the chagrin of Ida),until Ida is eventually kept imprisoned in a mental hospital for life. Marco Bellochio ('Henry IV',the remake of 'Devil In The Flesh')writes & directs this chilling portrayal of a woman driven mad by circumstances beyond her control. Giovanna Messogiorno plays Ida Dalser,with passion & panache. Felppo Timi wears two hats as the young Benito Mussolini (early on,replaced by vintage black & white film clips of the actual Benito Mussolini in later years),as well as Benito Albino,his son with Ida,as a young man (who would eventually end up in the same sad ending as his mother). The rest of the cast is rounded out with the likes of Corrado Invernizzi,Fausto Russo Alesi,and others. the film also acts as a back drop for Italian social history,from 1907,until 1945,with some nice use of visual metaphors (religious images are abundant,here,as the Catholic church was an ardent supporter of the Fascist movement in the early 20th century). Another nice notch for Bellochio. Spoken in Italian with English subtitles. Not rated by the MPAA,this film contains strong language,full frontal nudity (both female & male),some strong sexual content,and disturbing images not for young eyes

    Altri elementi simili

    Sicilia!
    6,7
    Sicilia!
    Buongiorno, notte
    7,1
    Buongiorno, notte
    L'angelo bianco
    6,5
    L'angelo bianco
    Marx può aspettare
    7,2
    Marx può aspettare
    I pugni in tasca
    7,6
    I pugni in tasca
    L'ora di religione (Il sorriso di mia madre)
    7,0
    L'ora di religione (Il sorriso di mia madre)
    Riso amaro
    7,6
    Riso amaro
    Bella addormentata
    6,3
    Bella addormentata
    Fai bei sogni
    6,5
    Fai bei sogni
    Il divo
    7,2
    Il divo
    Guardie e ladri
    7,7
    Guardie e ladri
    Professione: reporter
    7,4
    Professione: reporter

    Trama

    Modifica

    Lo sapevi?

    Modifica
    • Quiz
      Most Italians had no idea that Mussolini had a first wife and child until a documentary broke the story on TV in 2005.
    • Blooper
      The woman who is two beds down from Ida on her right says that the nurse's threat to tie her down is pointless because she already is that way. However, she was one of the woman standing around Ida's bed only minutes earlier.
    • Citazioni

      Benito Mussolini: With the guts of the last pope, we'll strangle the last king!

    • Connessioni
      Features Christus (1916)
    • Colonne sonore
      Inno di Garibaldi (Va' fuori d'Italia, va' fuori stranier)
      (uncredited)

      Performed by Pier Giorgio Bellocchio and Filippo Timi

    I più visti

    Accedi per valutare e creare un elenco di titoli salvati per ottenere consigli personalizzati
    Accedi

    Domande frequenti20

    • How long is Vincere?Powered by Alexa

    Dettagli

    Modifica
    • Data di uscita
      • 20 maggio 2009 (Italia)
    • Paesi di origine
      • Italia
      • Francia
    • Siti ufficiali
      • Official site (Japan)
      • Official site (United States)
    • Lingue
      • Italiano
      • Tedesco
    • Celebre anche come
      • Vèncer
    • Luoghi delle riprese
      • Trento, Trentino, Italia
    • Aziende produttrici
      • Offside
      • Rai Cinema
      • Celluloid Dreams
    • Vedi altri crediti dell’azienda su IMDbPro

    Botteghino

    Modifica
    • Budget
      • 13.000.000 USD (previsto)
    • Lordo Stati Uniti e Canada
      • 619.162 USD
    • Fine settimana di apertura Stati Uniti e Canada
      • 18.096 USD
      • 21 mar 2010
    • Lordo in tutto il mondo
      • 5.701.481 USD
    Vedi le informazioni dettagliate del botteghino su IMDbPro

    Specifiche tecniche

    Modifica
    • Tempo di esecuzione
      • 2h 8min(128 min)
    • Colore
      • Color
    • Mix di suoni
      • Dolby Digital
    • Proporzioni
      • 1.85 : 1

    Contribuisci a questa pagina

    Suggerisci una modifica o aggiungi i contenuti mancanti
    • Ottieni maggiori informazioni sulla partecipazione
    Modifica pagina

    Altre pagine da esplorare

    Visti di recente

    Abilita i cookie del browser per utilizzare questa funzione. Maggiori informazioni.
    Scarica l'app IMDb
    Accedi per avere maggiore accessoAccedi per avere maggiore accesso
    Segui IMDb sui social
    Scarica l'app IMDb
    Per Android e iOS
    Scarica l'app IMDb
    • Aiuto
    • Indice del sito
    • IMDbPro
    • Box Office Mojo
    • Prendi in licenza i dati di IMDb
    • Sala stampa
    • Pubblicità
    • Lavoro
    • Condizioni d'uso
    • Informativa sulla privacy
    • Your Ads Privacy Choices
    IMDb, una società Amazon

    © 1990-2025 by IMDb.com, Inc.