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Il sottomarino

Titolo originale: Men Without Women
  • 1930
  • Passed
  • 1h 17min
VALUTAZIONE IMDb
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LA TUA VALUTAZIONE
Frank Albertson and Kenneth MacKenna in Il sottomarino (1930)
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Aggiungi una trama nella tua linguaU.S. Navy divers race to save the crew of a foundered submarine as the sailors hopelessly prepare to die.U.S. Navy divers race to save the crew of a foundered submarine as the sailors hopelessly prepare to die.U.S. Navy divers race to save the crew of a foundered submarine as the sailors hopelessly prepare to die.

  • Regia
    • John Ford
  • Sceneggiatura
    • John Ford
    • James Kevin McGuinness
    • Dudley Nichols
  • Star
    • Kenneth MacKenna
    • Frank Albertson
    • J. Farrell MacDonald
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  • VALUTAZIONE IMDb
    6,0/10
    441
    LA TUA VALUTAZIONE
    • Regia
      • John Ford
    • Sceneggiatura
      • John Ford
      • James Kevin McGuinness
      • Dudley Nichols
    • Star
      • Kenneth MacKenna
      • Frank Albertson
      • J. Farrell MacDonald
    • 10Recensioni degli utenti
    • 9Recensioni della critica
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    Kenneth MacKenna
    Kenneth MacKenna
    • Chief Torpedoman Burke
    Frank Albertson
    Frank Albertson
    • Ens. Albert Edward Price
    J. Farrell MacDonald
    J. Farrell MacDonald
    • Costello
    • (as Farrell Macdonald)
    Warren Hymer
    Warren Hymer
    • Kaufman
    Paul Page
    Paul Page
    • Handsome
    Walter McGrail
    Walter McGrail
    • Joe Cobb
    Stuart Erwin
    Stuart Erwin
    • Jenkins - Radioman
    George LeGuere
    George LeGuere
    • Curly Pollock
    Charles K. Gerrard
    Charles K. Gerrard
    • Cmdr. Weymouth
    • (as Charles Gerrard)
    Ben Hendricks Jr.
    • Murphy
    Harry Tenbrook
    Harry Tenbrook
    • Dutch Winkler
    Warner Richmond
    Warner Richmond
    • Lt. Cmdr. Briddwell
    Frank Baker
    Frank Baker
    • Seaman
    • (non citato nei titoli originali)
    Wong Chung
    Wong Chung
    • Chinese Man in Shanghai Bar
    • (non citato nei titoli originali)
    Ivan Lebedeff
    Ivan Lebedeff
    • Man in Bar with Top Hat
    • (non citato nei titoli originali)
    Alberto Morin
    Alberto Morin
    • Postcard Seller
    • (non citato nei titoli originali)
    Frank Richardson
    Frank Richardson
    • Singing Sailor in Shanghai
    • (non citato nei titoli originali)
    Pat Somerset
    Pat Somerset
    • Lt. Digby
    • (non citato nei titoli originali)
    • Regia
      • John Ford
    • Sceneggiatura
      • John Ford
      • James Kevin McGuinness
      • Dudley Nichols
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    Recensioni degli utenti10

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    7davidmvining

    Ford sticks the Landing

    John Ford was really good with endings, I'm beginning to realize. It's been obvious that his greatest strength up to this point in his career was bringing in a bunch of different narrative pieces into a singular set piece. The overall strength of the film really depended on the quality of what came before. Oftentimes the films are simply too short for the amount that goes in, but there's a very nice balance to be found in Men Without Women. The opening is very loose, but we get a surprisingly focused situation through the final half of the film that ends really well.

    The only existing copy of Men Without Women left is an international edition. Filmed for sound in English, the copy left uses English intertitles (I believe they were recreated decades later) while the original sound is either gone completely or heavily muffled and out of synch with the picture. I was thinking of how the British film system had decided to film two copies of Alfred Hitchcock's Murder!, the German version being titled Mary (similar to the American and Spanish versions of the classic Dracula). It really seems like studios in the early talkie era really had no idea how to release films in markets with different languages. Subtitles would eventually come along, but until then, studios were going in all kinds of directions.

    Anyway, the weird way this copy still exists doesn't really negatively affect the film overall too much. It's obvious that it was filmed for sound, and the worst part is when intertitles come up in conversations on film obviously directed for sound, breaking the flow of scenes in more pronounced ways than in naturally silent films.

    Anyway, it's the story of a naval crew on a submarine leaving port from China. The first fifteen minutes or so is the crew ending their shore leave. This is the sort of side-character loving stuff that Ford had become well-known for. There are sailors buying vases for their mothers back home, some looking for good times with prostitutes (this was pre-Code), and generally just getting really drunk (again, pre-Code). It's lightly amusing stuff, but it obfuscates who this story is actually about. Our first clue to who the center of this story comes as the sub leaves dock and the captain of a battleship seems to recognize one of the sailors, the chief torpedoman Burke (Kenneth MacKenna). In addition, the character of Albert Price (Frank Albertson) from Salute appears, graduated as an ensign, as the newest member of the crew, coming aboard for his first voyage with the ship.

    Something goes wrong very soon after they leave port. The engine room floods, killing everyone there and stalling the ship, keeping it from moving. There's also damage to both torpedo tubes, and the men cannot get off the ship. The bulk of the film is the crew on the submarine's bridge, left with Ensign Price as the senior officer, trying to buy time with their limited oxygen supply while the radio operator sends out S. O. S. Messages. The crew grows increasingly frantic with Burke keeping hold of the oxygen tank, trying to slowly dose out the gas to elongate the crew's ability to survive (I'm not entirely sure how doling it out in small bits would be great for survival, but sure). People go crazy, and one even needs to get shot.

    The truth of Burke's past begins to come out at the same time. It turns out that he was a British officer, a captain of a ship that got sunk on a secret mission that, the court marshal determined, was either his fault or the fault of Burke's girl back home in England. He knows that he didn't give up the information, it was probably her. However, because the crown sees him as killed in action, they laid the blame on him. He then took on a new identity of join the American navy. Concurrently, we hear about Ensign Price's girl back home, and how he wants to go back to her.

    Time goes on, and a destroyer receives their message and comes to rescue them. However, it is of course the ship captained by the man who could identify Burke's past and take him back to England. The torpedo tube gets cleared, allowing the surviving men to be released from the sub one at a time, but one man will have to stay behind to shoot the second to last man out, doomed to stay and die with the ship. Ensign Price, as the commanding officer, decides that it must be him who stays behind, however, Burke can't go up and not only face his own previous failings of not having gone down with his previous ship but also make it known that his girl back in England is a traitor. It's the kind of perfect little encapsulation of events that the movie rather adeptly builds up to. This conflict of duties in two men bound by duty is really well executed.

    The first half is loose and sometimes hard to follow. The second half is clear-eyed and comes to a great conclusion. The health of the existing print means that we'll never see it as originally released in America, but I think it's good enough on its own. It's a solid story of men in the military, a favorite subject of Ford's, and I think it ends up working quite well.
    8planktonrules

    Not exactly a sound film...more a hybrid...part silent, part talkie.

    Apparently, the full sound English language version of this movie no longer exists...but a hybrid version was just posted on The Criterion Channel..and this is the one I just saw. When I say hybrid, this is a film where music, some singing and sound effects were added...but the rest is essentially a silent film. This was the case with the supposed first full-length sound movie, "The Jazz Singer"...though it only had bits and pieces of sound within anotherwise silent film. It is odd to see a hybrid from 1930, as hybrid films mostly came out in 1927-29. By 1930 nearly all American productions had full sound. Perhaps Fox Studio held this one from release...and that would explain why Ford's first all-sound film actually came out a year before "Men Without Women".

    There is a plot about a guy assuming a new identity following an accident in the navy. Well, this really isn't very important to the film. What is important is that the submarine he is on ends up colliding with another ship and sinking...and NOT in a normal or good way! What follows is a tense, harrowing and claustophobia-inducing portion of the film....exceptionally realistic and well made. In fact, I think this hybrid film is MUCH better than his earlier all sound movie, "The Black Watch". The best parts of the film are the direction and sets...they really are top notch.

    By the way, if you do watch, keep a sharp eye out for John Wayne in a tiny role as a radio operator on the surface. Blink and you just might miss it!
    7bkoganbing

    All That Could Be Rescued

    John Ford was taking some hesitant steps in his feature films from 1928 to 1931 with the advent of the talking motion picture. In Men Without Women there are bits of dialog, a lot of sound effects, some singing, but it is still mostly a silent picture. It's also a pretty good one, despite the suggestive title. Men Without Women refers to the crew on a US submarine between the World Wars and in this case the sub is on duty in the China Seas.

    An accident at sea sends the submarine to the bottom with the only survivors the slightly more than a dozen men who are in the forward area of the ship. Command is now in the hands of the only surviving officer, Ensign Frank Albertson who just reported for duty in Shanghai on his first assignment. He's green and not really experienced for the job.

    The one who holds the crew together is Kenneth McKenna the chief torpedoman who has a past. During the first World War McKenna was a British submarine commander who in some pillow talk with his enemy agent girl friend divulged he was taking a British Field Marshal on a secret mission. The submarine sank, but he survived and he never reported back. In fact the commander of the rescue ship which is British thought he recognized McKenna. All that could be rescued are rescued, but some don't make it, a lot like the Poseidon Adventure.

    This has to be the most claustrophobic film John Ford ever did. Most of the last 60% of the movie is in that submarine forward room and Ford does a great job with his ensemble cast. I find it ironic though because Ford is identified with photographing those wide open spaces in Monument Valley for his westerns. This shows he could handle a closed in environment. Those submarines back then didn't even have the capacity to submerge as long World War II vessels did let alone modern subs.

    There are some fine scenes of the sea rescue and you can even catch a glimpse of John Wayne as the radio operator on the rescue vessel. The Duke had one fine head of hair in those salad days, but he's unmistakable.

    All in all one of the best early sound films from John Ford.
    5boblipton

    Despite Joe August's Lighting, Just Another Ford Movie To Check Off Your List

    A submarine strikes another boa and sinks too fast for its crew to escape. Can help reach them in time? And what of Chief Torpedoman Kenneth MacKenna, who is hiding a very nasty secret?

    John Ford's very early talkie survives at the Museum of Modern Art, whence copies have leaked, and they are most peculiar copies indeed; DP Joseph August's camerawork is very well preserved, full of smoke and fog, and tricks of the trade he had been plying since he was working for Thomas Ince. But the soundtrack has survived only in bits and pieces, or it was shot as a silent with a few stray lines recorded. The result is another of those incredibly talky silent movies, where every every shot, it seems is punctuated by a long title. The closest you come to well remembered actors are Stu Erwin and J. Farrell MacDonald -- John Wayne is supposed to be present briefly as a radioman, but as usual, I missed him. Still, it is a John Ford movie, which means something to completists, and August's images are beautiful. But I don't know what they would have done with women on the bottom of the ocean.
    Abe-22

    Men trapped in a submarine fight to survive

    This film is of interest since it is in a period of transition between silent and sound pictures. The version shown on AMC has limited sound dialogue as well as title cards, and a few scenes have both! You hear John Wayne's voice before you see him in a small part.

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      The only extant sound version is actually from a work print for the International version. It's held by the Museum of Modern Art.
    • Versioni alternative
      The only existing version is in the Museum of Modern Art and runs 73 minutes. The credits differ widely from those listed in the AFI Catalogue, probably because this was a working print, as explained in the trivia section.
    • Connessioni
      Features Saluto militare (1929)
    • Colonne sonore
      How Dry I Am
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      Traditional

      Background music in the Shanghai Bar

      Reprised as sailors stagger aboard ship

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    • Data di uscita
      • 9 febbraio 1930 (Stati Uniti)
    • Paese di origine
      • Stati Uniti
    • Lingua
      • Inglese
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    • Luoghi delle riprese
      • Santa Catalina Island, Channel Islands, California, Stati Uniti
    • Azienda produttrice
      • Fox Film Corporation
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