La suite de la vie de Joe qui est gérée par son activté sexuelle lui plonge dans les aspects les plus sombres de son âge adulte, ses obsessions et ce qui l'a amenée à être confiée à Seligman... Tout lireLa suite de la vie de Joe qui est gérée par son activté sexuelle lui plonge dans les aspects les plus sombres de son âge adulte, ses obsessions et ce qui l'a amenée à être confiée à Seligman.La suite de la vie de Joe qui est gérée par son activté sexuelle lui plonge dans les aspects les plus sombres de son âge adulte, ses obsessions et ce qui l'a amenée à être confiée à Seligman.
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- Récompenses
- 14 victoires et 31 nominations au total
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The attributes that the general population will view as 'pornography' is the actual gritty realism of the Joe's life - nymphomania. If one has any sympathy for a type of disease or an insatiable need (an addiction), they will come to understand that this movie seems to explore addiction from the perspective of each character. The addictions that shape life as well as the absence of these needs entirely as one character seems to demonstrate - the question that remains in the end is that how far can one woman allowed to take her needs in a male dominated society?
Each character has their own value in the nymphomaniac's life and changes and shapes her personality to what it becomes in the end. I urge you all before writing distasteful reviews that fuel only some type of parental guidance (this is not a movie for kids obviously) or claiming that this film is porn, to actually take the time to see a deeper meaning within the characters and their dialogue even though it is overshadowed with quite a bit of sex...
I think Trier tries to tackle this ambivalent complexities we have about sex, also the fact that we humans function sexually in very different ways, in this very long two part film. Personally, I think he did a good job. I do understand if many hate it though and I wouldn't blame them.
And I would like to add, if you enjoy this movie. I would recommend the directors cut version.
There are still some oddly gripping moments here, but they're more disturbing than ever. Jamie Bell is a real surprise, playing a completely different character to that than you'd expect and doing very well with it too. I'm surprised that I found Charlotte Gainsbourg less sympathetic than the actress playing the younger version of her character. By the time Willem Dafoe enters the frame, the movie seems to have lost its way and become a bizarre, slow-paced thriller instead. And don't get me started on the Mia Goth stuff.
As before, this is a beautifully shot movie with a lot of fragility and artiness contained within its shots. But Lars von Trier can only keep the audience's interest for so long, and by now his tale is beginning to drag, leaving a film that is only so-so rather than profound. And that 'twist' ending is ludicrous more than anything else.
What's missing most is the interaction between the two lead characters: sex addict Joe and her asexual rescuer Seligman. In the first part, their conversation was like ping pong: they exchanged stories and experiences - hers of a sexual nature, his about all kinds of things. The links and similarities between their seemingly different lives made the film so original and attractive.
In the second part however, it's mostly Joe who tells the stories. Seligman is reduced to a minor part, that of the patient listener. Only at a few occasions he really contributes something to the conversation, but after one of his stories, Joe remarks: 'I think this is one of your weakest digressions'. After that, he lets her do the talking.
Even more than in the first part, Von Trier explores all kinds of (sexual) taboos. There's paedophilia (on which Joe has rather original but very wise views), interracial sex, sado-masochism, and all kinds of humiliation. In between, Von Trier also gives us his unorthodox thoughts on motherhood and feminism.
At several occasions, it's clear how we hear Von Trier speak through the words of his protagonist. There's a nice exchange of arguments about political correctness between Joe and Seligman. He thinks the word Negro shouldn't be used, out of respect for a part of society. She thinks that not allowing the use of certain words, is equal to forbidding certain thoughts. Political correctness is hypocrisy, she thinks. Coming from a man like Von Trier, who has committed his life to the combat against political correctness, this is a clear statement. The same goes for the scene where Joe, after having decided to attend a self help group for sex addicts, accuses the group leader of being a member of some sort of obscenity police. This is a clear message to all narrow-minded people who described 'Nymphomaniac' as porn, before having seen one second of it.
Because Von Trier so clearly has no respect for what society considers decent or proper, I was amazed by Seligmans feminist speech at the end of the film. He comforts Joe by pointing out that her behaviour as a nymphomaniac would probably be applauded if she had been a man. That a woman cannot dedicate her life to limitless sex, is proof of society's double standards. Of course this is true, but it sounds strange after so much scenes in which women are being degraded.
After having seen Nymphomaniac part 1 and part 2, I am really curious about the director's cut. Is it just more explicit sex? I hope not, because showing genitals is clearly not what makes this film great. It's everything else that should make you want to go and see it.
Then Joe is sent to therapy by her gynecologist but she does not admit that she is addicted in sex. Meanwhile Seligman tells to Joe that he is virgin and helps her to understand her actions. Joe believes that Seligman is her friend, but is he?
"Nymphomaniac: Vol. II" is a darker sequel of the volume 1. Joe now is in an adult and her sexual experiences are more perverted and without humor. The conclusion is unexpected and without redemption. My vote is seven.
Title (Brazil): "Ninfomaníaca: Volume 2" ("Nymphomaniac: Volume 2")
Le saviez-vous
- AnecdotesCharlotte Gainsbourg stated in an interview with the Washington Post that Lars von Trier personally asked her to record a version of the song "Hey Joe" for the end credits after he was unable to secure the rights to Jimi Hendrix's version, something she immediately accepted.
- GaffesIn the director's cut, during the opening of the chapter The Mirror, after Seligman explains that the top of the diamond is called a mirror in some languages and Joe mentions he has a mirror on the wall, you can clearly see the camera and crew members reflected in it. You even see the camera move as it pans right.
- Citations
Joe: Nobody knew his secret. Most probably not even himself. He sat there with his shame. I suppose I sucked him off, is a kind of apology.
Seligman: That's unbelievable!
Joe: Listen to me. This is a man who had succeeded in repressing his own desire, who had never before given into it right up until I forced it out. He had lived a life full of denial and had never hurt a soul. I think that's laudable.
Seligman: No matter how much I try, I can't find anything laudable in pedophilia.
Joe: That's because you think about the, perhaps 5% who actually hurt children. The remaining 95% never live out their fantasies. Think about their suffering. Sexuality is the strongest force in human beings. To be born with a forbidden sexuality must be agonizing. The pedophile who manages to get through life with the shame of his desire, while never acting on it, deserves a bloody medal.
- Crédits fousNear the very end of the credits there is this disclaimer: "None of the professional actors had penetrative sexual intercourse and all such scenes were performed by body doubles."
- Versions alternativesThe director's cut adds roughly 57 minutes of footage, expanding some of the subplots.
- ConnexionsFeatured in Film '72: Épisode datant du 19 février 2014 (2014)
- Bandes originalesThe Little Organ Book: Ich ruf zu Dir, Herr Jesu Christ
Performed by Mads Hock
Written by Johann Sebastian Bach
Arranged by Kristian Eidnes Andersen (as Kristian Selin Eidnes Andersen)
© Zentropa Music
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Détails
- Date de sortie
- Pays d’origine
- Sites officiels
- Langue
- Aussi connu sous le nom de
- Ninfomanía (vol. 2)
- Sociétés de production
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Box-office
- Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
- 327 167 $US
- Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
- 74 978 $US
- 6 avr. 2014
- Montant brut mondial
- 4 934 965 $US
- Durée2 heures 4 minutes
- Couleur
- Rapport de forme
- 2.35 : 1