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Ironweed - La force du destin

Titre original : Ironweed
  • 1987
  • R
  • 2h 23min
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Ironweed - La force du destin (1987)
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Un vagabond alcoolique passe Halloween dans sa ville natale d'Albany, New York, après y être retourné pour la première fois depuis des décennies.Un vagabond alcoolique passe Halloween dans sa ville natale d'Albany, New York, après y être retourné pour la première fois depuis des décennies.Un vagabond alcoolique passe Halloween dans sa ville natale d'Albany, New York, après y être retourné pour la première fois depuis des décennies.

  • Réalisation
    • Hector Babenco
  • Scénario
    • William Kennedy
  • Casting principal
    • Jack Nicholson
    • Meryl Streep
    • Carroll Baker
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  • NOTE IMDb
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    11 k
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    • Réalisation
      • Hector Babenco
    • Scénario
      • William Kennedy
    • Casting principal
      • Jack Nicholson
      • Meryl Streep
      • Carroll Baker
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    • Nommé pour 2 Oscars
      • 2 victoires et 4 nominations au total

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    Jack Nicholson
    Jack Nicholson
    • Francis Phelan
    Meryl Streep
    Meryl Streep
    • Helen
    Carroll Baker
    Carroll Baker
    • Annie Phelan
    Michael O'Keefe
    Michael O'Keefe
    • Billy
    Diane Venora
    Diane Venora
    • Peg
    Fred Gwynne
    Fred Gwynne
    • Oscar Reo
    Margaret Whitton
    Margaret Whitton
    • Katrina
    Tom Waits
    Tom Waits
    • Rudy
    Jake Dengel
    • Pee Wee
    Nathan Lane
    Nathan Lane
    • Harold Allen
    James Gammon
    James Gammon
    • Reverend Chester
    Will Zahrn
    Will Zahrn
    • Rowdy Dick
    Laura Esterman
    • Nora
    Joe Grifasi
    Joe Grifasi
    • Jack
    Hy Anzell
    Hy Anzell
    • Rosskam
    Bethel Leslie
    Bethel Leslie
    • Librarian
    Richard Hamilton
    Richard Hamilton
    • Donovan
    Black-Eyed Susan
    • Clara
    • Réalisation
      • Hector Babenco
    • Scénario
      • William Kennedy
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    10copcigar

    Ephemeral, beautiful, heartaching, and soon gone

    _Ironweed_ haunts for a long time after viewing, so be prepared. I also suggest that you be employed while you view this one.

    William Kennedy's novel was an extreme work of beauty, and as much as I enjoyed and respected the novel, I never dreamed a film version could surpass it. In some ways at least, I believe this film does. Streep is luminous, no small feat while playing a drunk (they weren't called "homeless people" back then). And although he's proved it again since, this was the first time most of us saw Nicholson act. Tom Waits is terrific and gritty, Carroll Baker comes out of semi-retirement as though this was the one role she had left in her to play, and mixes pain and determination in just the right quantities.

    Babenco clearly had a vision, and displays a maturity I hadn't expected from him. Even the score, a couple of tunes used over the opening and closing credits will make your heart ache.

    It's all pathos, and it's all good. Grab it while you can -- I had to go to Canada and get a used copy online to find it at all. It was worth it.
    5michaelRokeefe

    Depressing drama. Very good acting.

    Jack Nicholson usually relies on his quirky mannerisms and catch phrases; in this movie he shows his acting talents in a more serious manner. This movie is a brutal look at street people in the late 1930s. Meryl Streep immerses herself into her part as usual. This movie is harsh, cold and depressing. And the running time almost pushes two and a half hours long. I honestly don't know what they could have left out to make it shorter. Once is enough for this one. It will take a while for you to get your mind off of the abundance of hardship and sadness.

    Nicholson and Streep are joined with a solid, diverse cast that includes Carroll Baker, Michael O'Keefe, Tom Waits, Nathan Lane and Fred Gwynne.
    7dungeonstudio

    A Good Look At Alcoholism...

    I had seen this movie when it first came out, and just seemed hopelessly depressing. Good acting and sets, but a story with little hope for anyone. Recently I re-watched it and have an appreciation for its accurate depiction of alcoholism. I think this story could take place in any decade and have the same outcome. But the fact its in the depression era drives it all home that much harder. Francis (Nicholson) plays a down trodden bum all too familiar with the alleys and soup kitchens of 1938 Albany NY. He has a casual relationship with Helen (Streep) who seems very down on her luck too. If Francis can stay sober for a few days, the kind priest at the mission finds him odd jobs for pay. But soon as Francis works, he drinks again. Helen also is quite a drinker, and the two try to take care of each other finding places to sleep and getting food to eat. Paying attention to the dialog and flashbacks, the viewer learns Francis and Helen had fairly illustrious and gruesome pasts. Francis is prone to seeing many 'ghosts' haunt him still. In a way to confront his past, he returns to his wife and family he had abandoned after a tragedy a few decades earlier. He makes amends as best he can, but redemption seems to get more elusive for him. Not that the film takes any hard stance on alcoholism, but I'd say shows that it's truly an incurable disease that can torture a person to utter hopelessness and still continue. Past accomplishments, future dreams, true love and devotion and loss are all meaningless when there's another drink to be had. So the movie I don't think will either sober a true alcoholic up by watching it - but may help? Nor do I think it will encourage anyone to take up the profession seriously - unless they already have the infliction? But to the good christian that is naive to the vices many of us get addicted to, I think this movie realistically shows the destructive torment and survival alcohol can cause, regardless of success, tragedy, or current blight. Beautifully ugly.
    csm23

    Not for the faint of heart

    Have you ever wondered what's it's like to be homeless? To most of us, it's as foreign an existence as the medieval world of Hugh Capet. And yet, it's a way of life that's within reach of all of us. And I'm not talking about its physical proximity, about the unfortunates we pass on the streets with their bed rolls on their backs: on the contrary, I'm referring to its spiritual, psychological proximity, to all the rest of us, who, given the right circumstances, could give up on our cheery Western materialist society and wander off into the shadows.

    Ironweed takes its viewers into that shadowy world of the rail yards, cardboard shantytowns, underpasses, and abandoned automobiles, and shows us incisive glimpses of how a person arrives there. Featuring what I think are the very best performances by Jack Nicholson and Meryl Streep, Ironweed gets us deep into the sooty, grimy, bilious skin of the two `hobos.' Like Schindler's List, Ironweed is dark poetry. When the movie is over, you're haunted for days by the imagery.

    Set in Albany during the Great Depression, Ironweed delivers not an ounce of moralizing. It's like a clinical exposition of the homeless person's entire life, both from without, and within. On the outside, of course, there's the Depression: a society doing the best it can to get by. From the `hobo's' point of view, one feels the implicit violence of a culture taught to view others as economic instruments of their own survival. The homeless, of course, are on the bottom end of the food chain. On the inside, Ironweed takes us into the intense pain of dashed hopes and expectations. From within and without, the homeless are caught in a whirling vortex that only grinds them down deeper and deeper into despair, the type that Kierkegaard's describes in `Sickness unto Death.' It's where intense poverty is not just physical, but spiritual.

    This is a terrific movie; but, it's not for the faint of heart.
    10kinolieber

    Streep's Greatest Performance

    There are many reasons why this film is a masterpiece, but the most significant element is surely Streep's portrayal of a homeless alcoholic in 1930's Albany. Her appearance, about half an hour into the film, is quite frankly, astonishing. She walks into a soup kitchen and sits down next to Nicholson and your jaw drops at the transformation. Beyond the technical virtuosity, you marvel at the choices that Streep makes that express the character so movingly, from the vocal production which is almost like a groan of pain, to the body language including her constantly averted glance and shuffling walk which express the woman's lost self esteem, to her bursts of rage when we see the glimmer of the spirit she once posessed. There's a scene in a bar in which she sings for the patrons that you will never forget.

    Every other element of the film succeeds: the other performances (Nicholson, Tom Waits and Carol Baker stand out), the production design recreating a vanished era flawlessly without resorting to the phony perfection of say a Merchant Ivory film, the sound design which is surprisingly complex for such an intimate film, the screenplay, the cinematography, the direction. How is it that Hector Babenco has only made two films since this one?

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    • Anecdotes
      Argentinean director Hector Babenco said of this picture: "It is a movie that tries to embrace the territories of love, and it's also about the courage and beauty of people we don't usually think of as having deep and complex emotions."
    • Gaffes
      As the trolley being driven by the scab played by Nathan Lane approaches the union protesters, there are no trolley tracks between the mob and the trolley. In the next shot, they suddenly appear in the dirt under young Francis' feet.
    • Citations

      Rudy: Doc says I got cancer. First thing I ever got.

    • Connexions
      Featured in Siskel & Ebert & the Movies: Wall Street/Throw Momma from the Train/Broadcast News/Empire of the Sun (1987)
    • Bandes originales
      Whe You Were Sweet Sixteen
      Words and Music by James Thornton

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    • How long is Ironweed?Alimenté par Alexa

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    • Date de sortie
      • 7 septembre 1988 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Ironweed
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Albany, New York, États-Unis
    • Sociétés de production
      • Home Box Office (HBO)
      • Keith Barish Productions
      • TAFT Entertainment Pictures
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    • Budget
      • 27 000 000 $US (estimé)
    • Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 7 393 346 $US
    • Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 36 973 $US
      • 20 déc. 1987
    • Montant brut mondial
      • 7 393 346 $US
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    • Durée
      • 2h 23min(143 min)
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    • Mixage
      • Dolby Stereo
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.85 : 1

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