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Ironweed - La force du destin

Titre original : Ironweed
  • 1987
  • R
  • 2h 23min
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6,7/10
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Ironweed - La force du destin (1987)
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Un vagabond alcoolique passe Halloween dans sa ville natale d'Albany, New York, après y être retourné pour la première fois depuis des décennies.Un vagabond alcoolique passe Halloween dans sa ville natale d'Albany, New York, après y être retourné pour la première fois depuis des décennies.Un vagabond alcoolique passe Halloween dans sa ville natale d'Albany, New York, après y être retourné pour la première fois depuis des décennies.

  • Réalisation
    • Hector Babenco
  • Scénario
    • William Kennedy
  • Casting principal
    • Jack Nicholson
    • Meryl Streep
    • Carroll Baker
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    • Réalisation
      • Hector Babenco
    • Scénario
      • William Kennedy
    • Casting principal
      • Jack Nicholson
      • Meryl Streep
      • Carroll Baker
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    • 56Métascore
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    • Nommé pour 2 Oscars
      • 2 victoires et 4 nominations au total

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    Jack Nicholson
    Jack Nicholson
    • Francis Phelan
    Meryl Streep
    Meryl Streep
    • Helen
    Carroll Baker
    Carroll Baker
    • Annie Phelan
    Michael O'Keefe
    Michael O'Keefe
    • Billy
    Diane Venora
    Diane Venora
    • Peg
    Fred Gwynne
    Fred Gwynne
    • Oscar Reo
    Margaret Whitton
    Margaret Whitton
    • Katrina
    Tom Waits
    Tom Waits
    • Rudy
    Jake Dengel
    • Pee Wee
    Nathan Lane
    Nathan Lane
    • Harold Allen
    James Gammon
    James Gammon
    • Reverend Chester
    Will Zahrn
    Will Zahrn
    • Rowdy Dick
    Laura Esterman
    • Nora
    Joe Grifasi
    Joe Grifasi
    • Jack
    Hy Anzell
    Hy Anzell
    • Rosskam
    Bethel Leslie
    Bethel Leslie
    • Librarian
    Richard Hamilton
    Richard Hamilton
    • Donovan
    Black-Eyed Susan
    • Clara
    • Réalisation
      • Hector Babenco
    • Scénario
      • William Kennedy
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    csm23

    Not for the faint of heart

    Have you ever wondered what's it's like to be homeless? To most of us, it's as foreign an existence as the medieval world of Hugh Capet. And yet, it's a way of life that's within reach of all of us. And I'm not talking about its physical proximity, about the unfortunates we pass on the streets with their bed rolls on their backs: on the contrary, I'm referring to its spiritual, psychological proximity, to all the rest of us, who, given the right circumstances, could give up on our cheery Western materialist society and wander off into the shadows.

    Ironweed takes its viewers into that shadowy world of the rail yards, cardboard shantytowns, underpasses, and abandoned automobiles, and shows us incisive glimpses of how a person arrives there. Featuring what I think are the very best performances by Jack Nicholson and Meryl Streep, Ironweed gets us deep into the sooty, grimy, bilious skin of the two `hobos.' Like Schindler's List, Ironweed is dark poetry. When the movie is over, you're haunted for days by the imagery.

    Set in Albany during the Great Depression, Ironweed delivers not an ounce of moralizing. It's like a clinical exposition of the homeless person's entire life, both from without, and within. On the outside, of course, there's the Depression: a society doing the best it can to get by. From the `hobo's' point of view, one feels the implicit violence of a culture taught to view others as economic instruments of their own survival. The homeless, of course, are on the bottom end of the food chain. On the inside, Ironweed takes us into the intense pain of dashed hopes and expectations. From within and without, the homeless are caught in a whirling vortex that only grinds them down deeper and deeper into despair, the type that Kierkegaard's describes in `Sickness unto Death.' It's where intense poverty is not just physical, but spiritual.

    This is a terrific movie; but, it's not for the faint of heart.
    8lee_eisenberg

    The Great/Depressing Depression

    Given that we often hear a rather idealized version of the Great Depression - it seems like some people go so far as to treat it as the "good old days" - it's important to understand just what things were like back then. Hector Babenco's ultra-downer "Ironweed" does that. Jack Nicholson plays drifter Francis Phelan, who returns to his home town (where he hasn't been in years) and traipses around it, seeing the poverty prevalent throughout the Depression. He deals with his own demons and sees whether or not he can start up a new life. But he can't escape the reality of the status quo, or of his own past.

    Watching this movie, you may feel like you've just been drug through a gutter. But one must wonder how much better things are nowadays. For how terrible the Depression was, it helped our country understand not only abject poverty, but what caused the Depression. In this era of air-heads slacking off and using as many resources as possible, I wonder whether or not we might be headed towards a new kind of Depression. If so, then the movie warned us.

    Anyway, I recommend this movie, but understand that it's a total downer. Also starring Meryl Streep, Carroll Baker, Michael O'Keefe, Diane Venora, Fred Gwynne, Tom Waits and Nathan Lane.
    TxMike

    Great chance to see Nicholson and Streep in less glamorous roles.

    I found this movie on DVD at my public library, I watched it at home.

    The Great Depression in the USA lasted from 1929 to 1939. This movie is set in 1938 Albany, New York, near the end of the Depression but with most communities in a depressed economic state.

    Jack Nicholson is Francis Phelan, a drifter who has been away from home for some years. He returns right at Halloween, he meekly looks up his wife and two young adult children, but he calmly states that he doesn't plan to stay.

    His friend with benefits for some years is Meryl Streep as Helen, former singer and entertainer who now was a shell of her former self.

    In a non-glamorous role Carroll Baker is Francis' faithful wife Annie Phelan, she is surprised when he shows up but treats him with compassion.

    This is just a slice of life story, bums and drifters doing what they can to sometimes find a little work, maybe get a sandwich here or visit the soup kitchen there, find an abandoned car to sleep in for the night without freezing.

    I didn't find the story itself very enjoyable, it is a tragic story, but I found it worthwhile for Nicholson and Streep.
    9uhmartinez-phd

    Grim And Wonderful

    Cold, desolate in the surface and an uncomfortable warmth in the inside. Meryl Streep leads in a way that is difficult to explain. She provides a truly magic movie moment when she sings "He's My Pal" for her supper. For a moment we live her fantasy. Her moment is our moment, that's why as the song and the fantasy ends something inside me cracked. I felt tears running down my face and, I swear, I wasn't ready for that. The humanity of Meryl Streep, the actress, filters through the devastating circumstances of her character. Circumstances that, by the time we meet her, are already a way of life. At the beginning of the film, when somebody asks her how is she, her reply is "Delightful". Trying to adjust to this character I listen to her stained, tired voice, trying to be heard and I did, heard her. I love Meryl Streep.
    9dbdumonteil

    They're my pals.

    Never the timing for a movie had been so disastrous.Released in those "glorious " eighties when the success stories and the triumphalist heroes were the golden rule,"Ironweed" stood no chance at all.Two tramps did not fit well in the movie landscape of those "feel good" times.And two tramps played by two megastars ,it was unforgivable!

    The cast is stellar,but it's Meryl Streep whom I will remember FOREVER.When she sings her little tune "he's me pal" she's so heart-wrenching that she will move you to tears."At least ,I didn't betray anybody" she said.Although it was a colossal flop,Streep would only approach such an emotion afterwards.(notably in "the bridges of Madison County")Nicholson was equally courageous to play such a demeaning part,and he gets strong support from Carroll Baker who proves here she can age gracefully and from Tom Waits ,ideally cast as a barfly.

    "Ironweed" is very hard to see nowadays.One of these days ,it will be given the place it deserves.

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    • Anecdotes
      Argentinean director Hector Babenco said of this picture: "It is a movie that tries to embrace the territories of love, and it's also about the courage and beauty of people we don't usually think of as having deep and complex emotions."
    • Gaffes
      As the trolley being driven by the scab played by Nathan Lane approaches the union protesters, there are no trolley tracks between the mob and the trolley. In the next shot, they suddenly appear in the dirt under young Francis' feet.
    • Citations

      Rudy: Doc says I got cancer. First thing I ever got.

    • Connexions
      Featured in Siskel & Ebert & the Movies: Wall Street/Throw Momma from the Train/Broadcast News/Empire of the Sun (1987)
    • Bandes originales
      Whe You Were Sweet Sixteen
      Words and Music by James Thornton

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    • How long is Ironweed?Alimenté par Alexa

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    • Date de sortie
      • 7 septembre 1988 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Ironweed
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Albany, New York, États-Unis
    • Sociétés de production
      • Home Box Office (HBO)
      • Keith Barish Productions
      • TAFT Entertainment Pictures
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    • Budget
      • 27 000 000 $US (estimé)
    • Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 7 393 346 $US
    • Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 36 973 $US
      • 20 déc. 1987
    • Montant brut mondial
      • 7 393 346 $US
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    • Durée
      • 2h 23min(143 min)
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    • Mixage
      • Dolby Stereo
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.85 : 1

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