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Shoah

  • 1985
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  • 9h 26min
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Shoah (1985)
An epic documentary on the Holocaust featuring interviews with survivors, bystanders, and perpetrators in 14 countries.
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Le documentaire épique de Claude Lanzmann raconte l'histoire de l'Holocauste à travers des interviews de témoins de l'époque - bourreaux et survivants.Le documentaire épique de Claude Lanzmann raconte l'histoire de l'Holocauste à travers des interviews de témoins de l'époque - bourreaux et survivants.Le documentaire épique de Claude Lanzmann raconte l'histoire de l'Holocauste à travers des interviews de témoins de l'époque - bourreaux et survivants.

  • Réalisation
    • Claude Lanzmann
  • Casting principal
    • Simon Srebnik
    • Michael Podchlebnik
    • Motke Zaïdl
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  • NOTE IMDb
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    11 k
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    • Réalisation
      • Claude Lanzmann
    • Casting principal
      • Simon Srebnik
      • Michael Podchlebnik
      • Motke Zaïdl
    • 68avis d'utilisateurs
    • 54avis des critiques
    • 99Métascore
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
    • Victoire aux 2 BAFTA Awards
      • 15 victoires au total

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    Shoah
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    Simon Srebnik
    Simon Srebnik
    • Self
    Michael Podchlebnik
    Michael Podchlebnik
    • Self
    • (as Michaël Podchlebnik)
    Motke Zaïdl
    • Self
    Hanna Zaïdl
    • Self
    Jan Piwonski
    • Self
    Itzhak Dugin
    • Self
    Richard Glazar
    Richard Glazar
    • Self
    • (as Richard Glazer)
    Paula Biren
    Paula Biren
    • Self
    Helena Pietyra
    Helena Pietyra
    • Self
    • (as Pana Pietyra)
    Pan Filipowicz
    Pan Filipowicz
    • Self
    Pan Falborski
    Pan Falborski
    • Self
    Abraham Bomba
    • Self
    Czeslaw Borowi
    • Self
    Henrik Gawkowski
    Henrik Gawkowski
    • Self
    Rudolf Vrba
    • Self
    Inge Deutschkron
    • Self
    Franz Suchomel
    Franz Suchomel
    • Self
    Filip Müller
    Filip Müller
    • Self
    • Réalisation
      • Claude Lanzmann
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    10I_Ailurophile

    Profound, striking; a film that genuinely demands viewership from one and all

    In discussing this film, the late great Roger Ebert wrote "It is not a documentary, not journalism, not propaganda, not political. It is an act of witness." This may truly be the best description of a project so enormous in scope, and so direly important as a testament to our world's history, especially because upon watching it's so very hard to form words of one's own. One learns about the Holocaust as part of our education in youth; here we hear the words of people who lived it, from one angle or another. And still it's so incredibly difficult, both emotionally and on a basic visual level, to imagine the absolute monstrosity of these terribly real events. The testimony is stark and heavily detailed, whether from victims and survivors, perpetrators, or those who saw from any distance what was happening, and from these many interviews emerges a portrait of unremitting, unparalleled evil. Yet the brutal truth is that all this horribleness is not, strictly speaking, "inhuman"; rather, it's part and parcel of the human experience, what we as people are capable of at our very worst. And between the monumental endeavor of filmmaker Claude Lanzmann, and the supreme intelligence of editor Ziva Postec, it becomes clear that inasmuch as there was any intent behind 'Shoah' beyond bearing witness, it was to shed light on this facet of ourselves that is so disturbing to face up to. And that only makes the project resonate even more deeply than it already would.

    Exemplified in the words of SS war criminal Franz Suchomel, among others, the picture illuminates the cold calculation, and the bent toward utmost efficiency, of the industrialized mass murder that the Holocaust represented - both in the deadly methods employed, and the deceptions woven to manipulate victims into a state of relative cooperation. In this regard, the scenes that Suchomel recalls right as the second half of the picture begins are particularly grotesque, but one way or another it's evident that the same mind for innovation that has driven human civilization for millennia was actively engaged in the horrors of Nazi Germany. Then there are the beliefs, attitudes, superstitions, biases, and otherwise cruelties that are endemic to human psychology and sociology, nastiness that every person is susceptible to whether we recognize it or not and which we all must strive against. We see this to some extent in the testimony of some bystanders, whose words might reflect a casual, condescending, or maybe unwitting or misdirected tinge of prejudice, and more so in the thoroughly researched representations of historian Raul Hilberg. Hilberg especially draws connections between the tribalism that hearkens back even to the texts of Bronze Age religions, and further, approving of or inciting violence against entire groups of people - tribalism that was refined, twisted, and disguised over centuries to limit, oppress, exclude, and expel select demographics as those in power decreed, and which Nazi Germany simply took to its logical conclusion. Indeed, the exact same language and tactics are still used, today, by the wealthy, powerful, and ignorant against communities whose only offense is being different; anyone who fails to see the comparison is either lying or complicit.

    And through the remarks of victims and survivors - not least those like Abraham Bomba, Richard Glazar, and Filip Müller, who were forced to play their own part in the operation of the camps while awaiting death themselves - we are exposed to the pure beating heart of humanity, the instinctual drive to survive, understand, and overcome. At no point is watching 'Shoah' "easy" but the survivors' recollections arguably reverberate most tremendously of all, for their acts of remembering are closest to our experience as viewers: how does one even begin to truly absorb the impossible gravity, the sheer immensity, of everything that is being related? One can plainly see the pain on the subjects' faces as they try to grapple with their memories, revisiting events that were themselves staggering beyond what words can readily portend; so far removed from World War II one struggles to envision the abject reality of which the interviewees speak, which leads to a continuous cycle of sympathizing with the speakers and then struggling even more. This vortex of emotions, too, is just as much a part of the human condition as the repugnant acts of which we are capable, and the beliefs and attitudes we all must actively fight against in society and in ourselves. And the fact that Lanzmann's magnum opus brings all this to the surface of its own accord, without the smallest measure of dramatization or embellishment? Well, suffice to say that even only a short period into these nine and one-half hours the opinion is firmly cemented that this is without question one of the best films ever made, and one of the most significant.

    Why, setting all this aside, the fundamental construction of 'Shoah' is so impressive that a lengthy book or "making-of" documentary would also be interesting as a dissection of everything that Lanzmann and his collaborators were doing here. The production history is well established: many countries, hundreds of hours interview footage, many years of capturing footage and even more of editing. Once more, Lanzmann deserves utmost commendations for the boundless effort - his vision, the time and resources spent, what had to be exhausting both physically and emotionally in traveling to all these locations and hearing so much gut-wrenching testimony. But it bears repeating that editor Postec quite earned her own star with her contributions here, for the scope and breadth of the picture is hard to even comprehend for the layman, yet she shaped the whole into something that strikes hard, covers a dazzling amount of proverbial territory, and looms large in cinema and in global culture generally as a peerless achievement and a landmark historical record. Moreover, Lanzmann very smartly arranged for contemporary footage of the roads, railways, and sites where the awful events of the Holocaust transpired, frankly a stroke of brilliance. In so doing he at once gives us sights that in and of themselves are hauntingly beautiful from an aesthetic standpoint, while also accentuating the extreme magnitude of the Nazis' activities in terms both geographical and structural; of the stunning depravity of the Nazis' crimes; of the complicity of companies, organizations, and governments in enabling these crimes, or at least in failing to oppose them; and more. Just as much to the point, the cinematographers who served on 'Shoah' - Dominique Chapuis, Jimmy Glasberg, Phil Gries, and William Lubtchansky - are to be congratulated for the keen eyes that have so shrewdly delivered such visions to us, be they sweeping landscapes or thoughtful close-ups, for at every turn their work only ever heightens the impact that the movie has.

    Taken together with the mindfulness and discretion Lanzmann demonstrates as an interviewer - listening carefully, gently nudging as necessary, letting gaps of silence resound with the distraught emotions they carry with them - the end result is profound, and exceptional. It's worth revisiting Roger Ebert's assessment: that 'Shoah' "is not a documentary, not journalism, not propaganda, not political. It is an act of witness." That's all it should have been, and that's all it needs to be to be hugely affecting, and to be the marvelous feature that it is. That 'Shoah' does, in its own time and in its own way, speak to issues of conscience, intervention, complicity, survival, justice, geopolitics, industry, humanity, culture, history, religion, psychology, sociology, and more - past, present, and future - only affirms the unequivocal, far-reaching substance, consequence, relevance, and otherwise materiality that the movie represents. That one can draw a line between notions brought up here, precipitating the Holocaust, to subsequent events in recent history, and indeed in 2023, only emphasizes with sad urgency the dangerous position our world is in. It's not enough to say that Lanzmann's film is valuable, or educational. It's a must-see, for every single person. It's vital; a priority. It's altogether quintessential, for every reason. Yes, its runtime is prohibitive; no, it's not easy to watch. That doesn't change the fact that everyone needs to see it, both for its excellence purely from a standpoint of film-making, and far more so for the critical concerns it addresses, and the weight it bears. Seek it out, and make the time for it; 'Shoah' demands the viewership of one and all.
    8kurosawakira

    A Record of Pain

    One reason why I'm drawn into cinema is that at its best it brings together all of art, transcends the boundaries, and without which I would be somehow clueless, somewhat not completely myself. Almost always I describe these films as important, subjectively speaking, and most of the time the mark they imprint upon me is a thirst for more, all this in the most positive sense one may imagine.

    And then there's "Shoah" (1985). It's unbearably long, gruesomely shocking and depressing, and with certainty a film I don't wish to see again and see as a kind of anti-film. Yet that's precisely why it's remarkable, and why it is important. It's transcendental in a way that I've rarely witnessed: it disregards time and its own format, and simply exists. It doesn't care that it stops and meditates. To "linger" is a wrong choice of words, since it means staying in one place "longer than necessary, typically because of a reluctance to leave". The point is not to linger, but to endure. The point of the film is to exist as it is, as a witness. Thus one of its weaknesses, if one uses such comparative and charged term, becomes its essential characteristic: the film is all about not being a film, it's not about finding a quick way around a point to another. It's a record of pain, and it's not meant to be an easy-going experience.

    "Shoah", then, is like a film that refuses to be a film. It was Ebert who called it "an act of witness". I agree. It is a witness to people reminiscing about something so horrible of which it's quite impossible to reminisce at all. But they do it, and their pain has been transferred to Lanzmann's poem. This poem doesn't try to make the incomprehensible comprehensible, but rather make that, which is incomprehensible to them, the survivors, equally incomprehensible to us. As such, "Shoah" is a monument, a collection of recollections that wrenches at the heart.

    I suppose my reaction was the most natural there is after being exposed to what the Holocaust was: emptiness that is like a fleeing dream trying to catch its tail, unsuccessfully groping at the ever-distant memory. The feeling is that there was no way out, and there still isn't. That we can learn from the horrors of the past, but really don't. And at what cost? The survivors' testimonies, of their own survival and of the lives of those who didn't, is, in the end, the story that deserves to be told, again and again.

    I saw "For All Mankind" (1989) shortly after this. I'd say these two films form a very perceptive cross-section of what we humans are like. The awe I felt during "Mankind" only intensified the opposite kind of awe, of dread, I felt during "Shoah": can this be the same humankind that is capable of both kinds of deeds, and almost contemporarily? No matter how far into space we launch ourselves, we carry within us both the darkness and the light, the hopelessness and hope. In the words of W. B. Yeats, "things fall apart; the centre cannot hold."
    9tjantus

    Be prepared for a long haul

    It's nine and a half hours of travelogue footage and interviews with terribly ordinary middle-aged and senior citizens about events that happened a half-century ago.

    Except that the sites visited are the scenes of the systematic mass murder of roughly 11 million men, women and children, including some 6 million Jews, and the ordinary grandparents are the survivors and perpetrators of some of the most horrendous atrocities that mankind has committed upon each other.

    It is a terribly draining movie, hypnotic and disorienting, both in it's length and in the blandness, the matter-of-fact descriptions of things that would make a normal person scream in horror. And that is what is so amazingly important and meaningful about this film; that these were ordinary, average people. These were, and are, normal folks like you and me, and anybody, regardless of background, moral upbringing, and standards of decency can be caught up in circumstances beyond their power or experience, and can do the most depraved or heroic things imaginable. It is shocking, insightful, and a very,very important film that forces us to confront our own humanity and decide what that, in fact means.

    But it's nine and a half hours long. Be prepared to be drained and leave with your head buzzing.
    9kekca

    My rating: 9

    With commenting this film we are going out of the movie industry to get into history and the world that it shaped. This rating concerns the importance of the theme of the movie and the effort and the enormous importance of the established work.

    The film draws us into the deepest, dark and dirty human intentions that led to and are even devoid of any humane sense. It is shown the downfall of modern humanity, which mimics the barbaric world of the past. The long centuries of experience appear to be insufficient to call for peace and universal existence. On the contrary, it seems that the negative trends will not disappear very soon.

    Although it is not shown any atrocity, the stories of witnesses of the war are enough to push our imagination to unthinkable mental pictures. It remains impossible to think and honestly to sympathize to storytellers due to lack of language in which we could understand what they experienced. We can only be able to pity them when they do not find the strength to continue their stories and to bow to their power to tell everyone about the downfall of much part of mankind.

    Extremely long and difficult story that requires serious approach and interest in the topic. Valuable result.

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    10TakeTwoReviews

    Quite simply a must watch!

    I'm going to attempt a short review of a very long film. The question to many potential viewers may well be, is this worth nearly ten hours of my time? The simple answer is a resounding yes from me. Through an extensive series of candid interviews, intercut with suitably bleak footage shot in the present day 70s, Lanzmann documents in great detail the atrocities of the Holocaust, or Shoah. It's mostly slow and sombre, with a sense that Lanzmann leaves nothing out. All the uncomfortable pauses. Moments of dark reflection as horrors are recounted, from those that facilitated, those that witnessed it happening and those who miraculously survived. It's all disarmingly honest. Both from those speaking, Lanzmann's delicate probing questions and from those behind the camera, who manage to tease answers out of each subject without it feeling forced. Well aside from the Nazi beauracrat operating the train schedule who insists he had no idea about the 'final solution' until the war was nearly over. Or the Nazi death camp SS Commander, Oberhauser, now hiding as a barman in a Munich restaurant, who refuses to engage. Despite knowing many of the details of the Nazis systematic murder machine, to see it and hear it talked about from eyewitnesses is chilling. There's things that your mind just can't comprehend and certainly many horrors that I'd never thought to picture. It demands though that you think. There's no archive, no emaciated bodies, no swastikas. Just stark recounts of hell on earth from those that endured, escaped... or inflicted. The latter of which often with a pleaded suggestion that they didn't know what was happening. Lanzmann often passive in the interviews, clearly astonished at the reluctance to admit any kind of fault, rightly speaks out. "You were part of the vast German power structure". Interviewees are trapped by the camera, there is nowhere to hide. This is a harrowing period of Jewish history, of all our history, but as to the question posed at the start... please watch this.

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    • Anecdotes
      An estimated 350 hours of footage were shot. The editing process took 5 years.
    • Gaffes
      Simon Srebnik and Michael Podchlebnik were not the only Jewish survivors of the Chelmno Extermination Camp. Today, at least 9 are known by name, but not all survived WWII and/or gave testimonies. Claude Lanzmann probably didn't know then.
    • Citations

      Franz Suchomel: If you lie enough, you believe your own lies.

    • Connexions
      Edited into We Shall Not Die Now (2019)
    • Bandes originales
      Mandolinen um Mitternacht
      Performed by Peter Alexander (uncredited)

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    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • novembre 1985 (États-Unis)
    • Pays d’origine
      • France
    • Langues
      • Allemand
      • Hébreu
      • Polonais
      • Yiddish
      • Français
      • Anglais
      • Grec
      • Italien
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Шоа
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Auschwitz-Birkenau Concentration Camp, Oswiecim, Malopolskie, Pologne
    • Sociétés de production
      • Les Films Aleph
      • Historia
      • Ministère de la Culture de la Republique Française
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    • Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 20 175 $US
    • Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
      • 2 874 $US
      • 12 déc. 2010
    • Montant brut mondial
      • 20 175 $US
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      9 heures 26 minutes
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    • Rapport de forme
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