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Un homosexuel et un prisonnier politique se trouvent ensemble dans une prison. Le gay raconte les histoires de deux faux films et de sa propre vie.Un homosexuel et un prisonnier politique se trouvent ensemble dans une prison. Le gay raconte les histoires de deux faux films et de sa propre vie.Un homosexuel et un prisonnier politique se trouvent ensemble dans une prison. Le gay raconte les histoires de deux faux films et de sa propre vie.
- Réalisation
- Scénario
- Casting principal
- Récompensé par 1 Oscar
- 14 victoires et 12 nominations au total
Míriam Pires
- Mother
- (as Miriam Pires)
Denise Dumont
- Michele
- (as Denise Dummont)
Antônio Petrin
- Clubfoot
- (as Antonio Petrin)
Luiz Guilherme
- Agent #2
- (as Luis Guilherme)
Avis à la une
I know the film has a reputation for being a great film, but frankly this was never one of my favorites. It really boils down to a two-character study that was probably ideal for the stage but doesn't transfer that well to film. The only thing that relieves the static nature of the film are the dreams and flashbacks that add some much needed color to the story.
Otherwise, it's a study of relationships--a gay man and a straight man share a prison cell in South America and the only thing that keeps the gay man in a survival mode is recalling in detail tacky movies he's seen in the past--and thus the title, KISS OF THE SPIDER WOMAN.
WILLIAM HURT does the campy role well and was rewarded with a Best Actor Oscar while RAOUL JULIA is the straight man who gradually comes to love and respect his cellmate for the human being that he is, letting go of his homophobic attitude long enough to share a tender moment with a gay man who has come to love him and who decides not to betray him, as the authorities hoped he would when they planted him in the cell.
It's a strange, quirky story, certainly not for everyone's taste and it took courage to make the film in the first place, knowing it would have limited appeal at the box-office.
I just never found it to be the exceptional film some are calling it.
Otherwise, it's a study of relationships--a gay man and a straight man share a prison cell in South America and the only thing that keeps the gay man in a survival mode is recalling in detail tacky movies he's seen in the past--and thus the title, KISS OF THE SPIDER WOMAN.
WILLIAM HURT does the campy role well and was rewarded with a Best Actor Oscar while RAOUL JULIA is the straight man who gradually comes to love and respect his cellmate for the human being that he is, letting go of his homophobic attitude long enough to share a tender moment with a gay man who has come to love him and who decides not to betray him, as the authorities hoped he would when they planted him in the cell.
It's a strange, quirky story, certainly not for everyone's taste and it took courage to make the film in the first place, knowing it would have limited appeal at the box-office.
I just never found it to be the exceptional film some are calling it.
Babenco's, Kiss of the Spider woman, is one of many forgotten master pieces. Forgotten simply because it's themes, content and style is still too obscure even by todays standards. The movie is a rich myriad of imagery, poetics and emotions which all become thicker and more complex as the movie unfolds.
On the surface, Kiss of the Spider woman, appears as a prison thriller. However what differentiates this movie from other movies of it's genre, is the emotional questions that the movies raises. The movie is a study of moral rights in the modern world. In this movie the two leads are forced to evaluate themselves and rationalise their feelings with one another, this is shown in the way the movie contrasts the politics of the free thinking individual; that being revolution, individual rights of man, people forcing change, with the prejudices of modern society, mainly the modern day fear of homosexuality.
Stylistically the movie is also outstanding, taking an unconventional narrative that mixes the 'dream' with the 'real'. The character of Valentin represents the modern day hero, with his idealism and dreams of change. Where as the character of Luis represents the failed dreams of the individual and the longing for fulfilment.
The Nazi movie that is intertwined within the story, should also merit a comment, as it is through this sub plot where the story is able to ensnare it's audience into a labyrinth like world within a fictitious/mythological past within thirties Europe. The black and white movie, within the movie, 'The kiss of the Spider woman' serves as a continuous reminder of the power of the dream world with that of our everyday reality.
The eighties was a bizarre time for art, there was the prevailing sense of change in the air. With the Cold War coming to an end, there was the popular belief of a new world emerging from the lesson learnt from two world wars. This movie, 'The Kiss of the Spider woman', serves as a cautious warning that mans is a nostalgic yet forgetful beast and that hope of change and the dream of freedom, within a society that is not yet ready to take on all of the social/political dynamics of freedom, remains nothing but a failed romance.
A worthy classic. A movie experience that anyone who loves cinema or is interested in a study of humanity should seek out..
On the surface, Kiss of the Spider woman, appears as a prison thriller. However what differentiates this movie from other movies of it's genre, is the emotional questions that the movies raises. The movie is a study of moral rights in the modern world. In this movie the two leads are forced to evaluate themselves and rationalise their feelings with one another, this is shown in the way the movie contrasts the politics of the free thinking individual; that being revolution, individual rights of man, people forcing change, with the prejudices of modern society, mainly the modern day fear of homosexuality.
Stylistically the movie is also outstanding, taking an unconventional narrative that mixes the 'dream' with the 'real'. The character of Valentin represents the modern day hero, with his idealism and dreams of change. Where as the character of Luis represents the failed dreams of the individual and the longing for fulfilment.
The Nazi movie that is intertwined within the story, should also merit a comment, as it is through this sub plot where the story is able to ensnare it's audience into a labyrinth like world within a fictitious/mythological past within thirties Europe. The black and white movie, within the movie, 'The kiss of the Spider woman' serves as a continuous reminder of the power of the dream world with that of our everyday reality.
The eighties was a bizarre time for art, there was the prevailing sense of change in the air. With the Cold War coming to an end, there was the popular belief of a new world emerging from the lesson learnt from two world wars. This movie, 'The Kiss of the Spider woman', serves as a cautious warning that mans is a nostalgic yet forgetful beast and that hope of change and the dream of freedom, within a society that is not yet ready to take on all of the social/political dynamics of freedom, remains nothing but a failed romance.
A worthy classic. A movie experience that anyone who loves cinema or is interested in a study of humanity should seek out..
This film, about two thoroughly different souls turning into each other, is one of the all-time greats. The writing is crisp, the acting is phenomenal, and the story is exquisite. I have read the book in both Spanish and English, seen the musical four times, read the script of the play, and watched this movie over and over again... I recommend it to anyone who wants a true powerhouse drama, not a schmaltzy tearjerker.
"Kiss of the Spider Woman" is a fine portrayal of how two completely different men can come to understand one another and how unselfish love can transcend sexual preference. The story slowly reveals itself as the movie progresses, and in the end,the film is about much more than is first apparent. I admired the gutsy performances by Hurt and Julia, and the direction by Brazilian Hector Babenco, who uses long, involved shots, instead of cutting away quickly (which, unfortunately, is used so often). The film hasn't remained very well known since it was released in 1985, but it is definitely worth seeing if you can find it. 8/10
Reading the other reviews, I see that homophobes have been duly warned about this movie, so I won't say anything about the relationship between the two men beyond that it is complex and beautiful.
What interests me more for the purposes of this little blurb is that no one has commented on how the "film within a film" (much like the "play within a play" in Hamlet) reflects the actual events unfolding in the prison cell. Molina (William Hurt) is ostensibly retelling his favorite film to entertain Valentin (Raul Julia) and make the time pass more quickly, but he himself admits that he "embroiders" the story to make it more real. So who is to say if this film exists except in Molina's mind, and if it does, what really transpired in the film? The story about the French woman who is in love with a German officer during World War II, and must decide whether or not to betray him, is an obvious parallel to Molina's decision to betray Valentin or not. Even Molina says that he most identifies with Leni La Maison (Sonia Braga) in this film of his, and it's not just because he is a drag queen. It's because he has to choose between the man he loves and "patriotism" (in his case, represented by the police/government as well as his ailing mother).
This storytelling tactic works brilliantly, in my opinion. Kiss of the Spider Woman is indeed original, quirky, and a must-see.
What interests me more for the purposes of this little blurb is that no one has commented on how the "film within a film" (much like the "play within a play" in Hamlet) reflects the actual events unfolding in the prison cell. Molina (William Hurt) is ostensibly retelling his favorite film to entertain Valentin (Raul Julia) and make the time pass more quickly, but he himself admits that he "embroiders" the story to make it more real. So who is to say if this film exists except in Molina's mind, and if it does, what really transpired in the film? The story about the French woman who is in love with a German officer during World War II, and must decide whether or not to betray him, is an obvious parallel to Molina's decision to betray Valentin or not. Even Molina says that he most identifies with Leni La Maison (Sonia Braga) in this film of his, and it's not just because he is a drag queen. It's because he has to choose between the man he loves and "patriotism" (in his case, represented by the police/government as well as his ailing mother).
This storytelling tactic works brilliantly, in my opinion. Kiss of the Spider Woman is indeed original, quirky, and a must-see.
Le saviez-vous
- AnecdotesReportedly, William Hurt and Raul Julia worked for nothing but the payment for their air tickets and hotel bills in Brazil, where the film was shot.
- Citations
Luis Molina: The nicest thing about feeling happy is that you think you'll never be unhappy again.
- ConnexionsFeatured in The 58th Annual Academy Awards (1986)
- Bandes originalesJe me moque de l'amour
Lyrics by Manuel Puig, David Weisman
Music by John Neschling (uncredited)
Sung by Sonia Braga (uncredited)
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Détails
- Date de sortie
- Pays d’origine
- Langues
- Aussi connu sous le nom de
- El beso de la mujer araña
- Lieux de tournage
- Minhocão, Via Elevada Presidente João Goulart, São Paulo, Brésil(Molina's apartment is located near the elevated highway)
- Sociétés de production
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Box-office
- Montant brut aux États-Unis et au Canada
- 17 005 229 $US
- Week-end de sortie aux États-Unis et au Canada
- 55 962 $US
- 28 juil. 1985
- Montant brut mondial
- 17 009 654 $US
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