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Né pour vaincre

Titre original : Born to Win
  • 1971
  • 16
  • 1h 28min
NOTE IMDb
5,8/10
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Karen Black and George Segal in Né pour vaincre (1971)
A smart-mouthed junkie and loser known as J.J. (George Segal) spends his days looking for just "one more fix".
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Un junkie connu sous le nom de J.J tente de remonter la pente, et cela grâce à l'aide de la femme qu'il aime.Un junkie connu sous le nom de J.J tente de remonter la pente, et cela grâce à l'aide de la femme qu'il aime.Un junkie connu sous le nom de J.J tente de remonter la pente, et cela grâce à l'aide de la femme qu'il aime.

  • Réalisation
    • Ivan Passer
  • Scénario
    • David Scott Milton
    • Ivan Passer
  • Casting principal
    • George Segal
    • Paula Prentiss
    • Karen Black
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  • NOTE IMDb
    5,8/10
    2,4 k
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    • Réalisation
      • Ivan Passer
    • Scénario
      • David Scott Milton
      • Ivan Passer
    • Casting principal
      • George Segal
      • Paula Prentiss
      • Karen Black
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    George Segal
    George Segal
    • J
    Paula Prentiss
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    • Veronica
    Karen Black
    Karen Black
    • Parm
    Jay Fletcher
    Jay Fletcher
    • Billy Dynamite
    Hector Elizondo
    Hector Elizondo
    • Vivian
    Robert De Niro
    Robert De Niro
    • Danny
    Ed Madsen
    • Detective
    Marcia Jean Kurtz
    Marcia Jean Kurtz
    • Marlene
    Irving Selbst
    • Stanley
    Tim Pelt
    • Little Davey
    José Pérez
    José Pérez
    • Junior Conception
    • (as Jose Perez)
    Sylvia Syms
    • Cashier
    • (as Sylvia Simms)
    Jack Hollander
    • Harry
    Alex Colon
    Alex Colon
    • Bus Boy
    Max Brandt
    • Store Clerk
    Burt Young
    Burt Young
    • First Hood
    Roland Kindhard
    • Second Hood
    Jean David
    • Laundry Woman
    • Réalisation
      • Ivan Passer
    • Scénario
      • David Scott Milton
      • Ivan Passer
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    7writerasfilmcritic

    An Interesting, Unpretentious Flick

    I've seen Karen Black in several roles where I didn't care for the character she portrayed. The thoroughly dependent and constantly whining waitress she played in Five Easy Pieces was a good example. You could understand why Jack Nicholson had trouble committing to a serious relationship with her. In Born to Win, however, she is easily the most likable personality in the film. How many women would start an affair with a man who was attempting to steal her car? Her beauty, her sense of humor, and her spirit shine through immediately and continue throughout. George Segal's unrepentant junkie character, who lost his wife to a sleazy, backstabbing, pimping drug dealer, somehow manages to charm us more than most of the other actors, including the police, who think nothing of planting evidence on anyone they feel like at the moment. There is something hip about this movie, not because it glorifies heroin addiction, which it certainly does not, but because it seems to show a slice of New York life in a fairly realistic manner. The death of JJ's best friend, Billy, from "a hot shot" that was meant for JJ, the armed "take offs" that the dopers pull on one another simply because they really need a fix or are having a bad day (with no offense otherwise intended), the way the corrupt cops are portrayed, the shots of the city, too often grimy yet somehow alluring -- this is interesting cinema. I think I bought this DVD for a buck and have watched it a number of times. It's a good movie.
    7MovieAddict2016

    Don't be fooled by the misleading front cover and you'll find it a rewarding experience

    I'm a huge fan of Robert De Niro. I've made an effort to hunt down all of his older films (like Greetings and the awful "Sam's Song" a.k.a. "The Swap") and have done pretty well so far - I saw "Born to Win" at a grocery store for six bucks on DVD and since I'd seen it listed on IMDb as one of his early films (and after making sure it wasn't one of the countless "other titles" for "Sam's Song") I purchased it.

    Much to my surprise (well, not really, I kinda suspected as much) the cover was totally deceiving. It features Robert De Niro's face (from another film, mind you), his hand holding a gun. It says, "ROBERT DE NIRO" and "George Segal" in smaller print underneath his name. The tagline on the DVD is something like, "A junkie goes against a cop trying to bring down Mr. Big." Now, mind you, no one in this film is named Mr. Big, and the junkie (Segal) doesn't "go against" the cop. De Niro the Cop is only in TWO scenes (count 'em, two) and has maybe a page's worth of dialogue, if that.

    The film relies on Segal and he really delivers a fine performance. The entire cast is good - Hector Elizondo and Karen Black in supporting roles, as well as a younger Burt Young (pre-"Rocky").

    This isn't a great film and it isn't superbly directed. It's a bit hard to watch at times due to a grainy transfer and bad audio. But it's reminiscent of Al Pacino's "Panic in Needle Park" so far as it presents a realistic, gritty, depressing vision of junkies operating on the streets, and how miserable your life can become by resorting to drugs (mainly heroin).

    A good, rewarding picture - but don't be fooled by the title, nor Leonard Maltin's description of it as a "very funny" comedy.
    9shepardjessica

    Classic early Passer and G. Segal!

    This TOTALLY, except for the cool critics (including Pauline Kael), was written off by a bad check, probably because it was another foreign director (like Milos Forman) cashing in on the real GOLDEN AGE of cinema (for America, for sure). That stuff doesn't matter. George Segal, one of the genius actors of the late 60's and 70's, gives an incredible performance as "J" the junkie, AFTER establishing himself as the comic everyman for five years. He's already done King Rat in 1965 and was nominated in 1966 for Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?, I won't even list this dude's accomplishments in a VERY timely era and film space and he was very good. Paula Prentiss (AS ALWAYS) is wonderful, Hector Elizondo, Karen Black and a host of New York unknown stage actors will blow you away with this film. They've changed the title. OH, I FORGOT, Robert DeNiro is GREAT in this in a small role (but a good one).

    Nobody cares about junkies ...and why should they? This film isn't about street fixers; it's about New York City in that time period. It's just a wonderful film. It has everything the other COOL films of the 70's had, except marketing - and it blows away Panic in Needle Park with Pacino and Kitty Wynn (a good film), but the message wasn't LEFT or RIGHT enough, even to the people who appreciated that great era of AMERICAN films and this one (like many) was directed by a FOREIGNER (a great director). I'm just babbling here now; Find this film; I found it on Video and I hope to God it's on DVD by now. It's a smooth trail of NYC hopeful desperation at the bottom of that barrel, but you won't regret the trip. An 8 out of 10. Best performance = George Segal. Find it, if you're interested in great movies of that era that didn't make a million bucks!
    nunculus

    The seventies' bleakest--and one of the best

    One of the great joys of being a movie addict is loving unreasonably. There's probably no rational way to convey my adoration for this 1971 Ivan Passer movie, which was made for nothing back in the day when movies like this actually could get made and released--today, it'd be shot on digital video in someone's basement and never see the light of day. George Segal gives one of the performances of his career as J, a hairdresser turned heroin addict who vamps his way through the day with a torrent of improvised Lenny Bruce hipsterisms. Karen Black is the "straight," broken girl who falls in love with him for no good reason except that he's broken too--I can't think of a more haunting moment in a movie romance than the one where she drops him off in midtown Manhattan to score dope and implores, "J--remember to come back home." The movie fleetly conveys the romance, the soft-edgedness and wombiness of heroin--and then in short order takes you all the way down to the bitterest consequences. And it reminds you of the beauties of hard-knuckle, dirty-formica naturalism--pleasures unavailable to more stylized or more conceptual pictures. Has there ever been an actress as free as Karen Black? The way she lifts up ten fingers, over and over again, to count off the number of men she's slept with; or the strange little hair-bite she does when she oaths her love to Segal on the beach--everything is as fresh and unaffected and right as if it were playing out in your living room right this minute. The locations, the smoky, salty, funereal-blues soundtrack--Ivan Passer can't put a foot wrong in this movie. Why is this guy not being given all the work in the world? And why is this movie not acclaimed a masterpiece in a world where rusty chestnuts by Rafelson and Bogdanovich are still held in high esteem?
    kubrickfan-1

    better than you might think

    Poor JJ, every time he scores some junk or pulls a job he gets screwed over. It's not easy being a junkie, but it CAN be funny!! This movie is listed as a drama but it flows like a well made comedy. If you can overlook the so-so editing, lighting, and cinematography you will be able to relax and enjoy an extremely well acted film. The dialogue is superb. George Segal is in top form as JJ, a Heroin addict on the streets of NYC in 1971. Robert De Niro has a supporting role as an undercover vice cop. I haven't looked it up yet but I assume that this is one of De Niro's first films as his name doesn't appear in the credits until about the halfway point. De Niro does the best he can with the small role he's given but keep in mind that this isn't a De Niro film. The real joy in this movie is George Segal's performance as JJ. He plays an excellent dope-fiend. Both JJ and Billy Dynamite (Jay Fletcher) are in love with the needle. Billy Dynamite put it best: "It's like we have a purpose in life. Every morning we wake up and know EXACTLY what we're gonna do... hustle up another bag!!!... "I wouldn't trade this life for nothing man... Nothing!!" It's almost as if he genuinely loves being an an addict. JJ (Segal) has been up to no good and is afraid someone might try to pass him a hotshot. A "hotshot" is a shot of heroin that the dealer has cut with strychnine or battery acid. The sole purpose of giving someone a hotshot is kill them, and JJ has a couple of dealers that would like to see him dead. Does JJ get the hotshot... or not??? I won't tell. Check it out and see for yourself!

    ******** (8 out of 10 stars)

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    • Anecdotes
      Some of the characters in the film were played by actual New York City junkies at the time, people who Writer and Director Ivan Passer encountered while researching the film.
    • Citations

      [first lines]

      J: They same I'm a charmer... that I charm the people I hustle. Well, that comes after dealing with women, after hairdressing. I love to dress hair! But being that I know what to do, being that I'm hip enough to know, I do it! That's love and peace. Love and peace. You just gotta keep sending it out. Love. That love and peace.

      [smiles]

      J: I'm not J for nothing, you know?

    • Versions alternatives
      The budget video releases of this film feature an edited-for-TV print that cuts out the following scenes: Segal and Prentiss putting tourniquets on in a back room of the nightclub in preparation for taking heroin, an exchange involving Karen Black's character's breast size (and a retort involving Segal's breast size), an extension of the scene featuring Segal in the pink robe giving the "up-yours" sign to the girl on the balcony, dialogue when Black and Segal are making love, and assorted others. The 2005 German MGM DVD features the uncut version of the film.
    • Connexions
      Features Applause (1973)
    • Bandes originales
      Ooh Poo Pah Doo
      Written by Jessie Hill (uncredited)

      Performed by Ike Turner and Tina Turner

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    • How long is Born to Win?Alimenté par Alexa

    Détails

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    • Date de sortie
      • 22 mars 1972 (France)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Born to Win
    • Lieux de tournage
      • New York, États-Unis
    • Sociétés de production
      • Theater Guild
      • Segal-Tokofsky Productions
      • Scraping Bottom Company
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    • Durée
      • 1h 28min(88 min)
    • Couleur
      • Color
    • Mixage
      • Mono
    • Rapport de forme
      • 1.85 : 1

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