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The Todd Killings

  • 1971
  • R
  • 1h 33min
NOTE IMDb
6,0/10
462
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The Todd Killings (1971)
CriminalitéDrameThrillerCrime véritable

Ajouter une intrigue dans votre langueAn overgrown adolescent lives off his mother and leads small-town California teens astray.An overgrown adolescent lives off his mother and leads small-town California teens astray.An overgrown adolescent lives off his mother and leads small-town California teens astray.

  • Réalisation
    • Barry Shear
  • Scénario
    • Dennis Murphy
    • Joel Oliansky
    • Mann Rubin
  • Casting principal
    • Robert F. Lyons
    • Richard Thomas
    • Belinda Montgomery
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • NOTE IMDb
    6,0/10
    462
    MA NOTE
    • Réalisation
      • Barry Shear
    • Scénario
      • Dennis Murphy
      • Joel Oliansky
      • Mann Rubin
    • Casting principal
      • Robert F. Lyons
      • Richard Thomas
      • Belinda Montgomery
    • 17avis d'utilisateurs
    • 11avis des critiques
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
  • Voir les informations de production sur IMDbPro
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    Rôles principaux39

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    Robert F. Lyons
    Robert F. Lyons
    • Skipper
    Richard Thomas
    Richard Thomas
    • Billy Roy
    Belinda Montgomery
    Belinda Montgomery
    • Roberta
    Sherry E. DeBoer
    Sherry E. DeBoer
    • Amata
    • (as Sherry Miles)
    Joyce Ames
    • Haddie
    Holly Near
    • Norma
    James Broderick
    James Broderick
    • Sam Goodman
    Gloria Grahame
    Gloria Grahame
    • Mrs. Roy
    Fay Spain
    Fay Spain
    • Mrs. Mack
    Edward Asner
    Edward Asner
    • Fred Reardon
    Michael Conrad
    Michael Conrad
    • Detective Shaw
    Frank Webb
    Frank Webb
    William Lucking
    William Lucking
    • Detective
    Sandy Brown Wyeth
    Sandy Brown Wyeth
    Sherry Lynn Diamant
    Georgene Barnes
    Tannis G. Montgomery
    Tannis G. Montgomery
    • Jackie
    • (as Tanis Montgomery)
    Robert Williamson
    • Réalisation
      • Barry Shear
    • Scénario
      • Dennis Murphy
      • Joel Oliansky
      • Mann Rubin
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    lazarillo

    Interesting Time Capsule from the Early '70's

    This is an interesting little time capsule from the early 1970's. I watched it because the video box claimed it was similar to River's Edge (1987), one of my favorite movies. It turned out to be the fictionalized story of a real-life serial killer nicknamed the "Pied Piper of Tucson" who partially inspired the famous Joyce Carol Oates short story "Where Are You Going? Where Have You Been?" (which in turn inspired the movie Smooth Talk with Laura Dern and Treat Williams). While it is a long way from being a classic, it does capture the restlessness and malaise of the period, and like River's Edge is a pretty honest, if extreme, story of wayward youth. As other reviews have noted, the movie contains some surprising nude scenes, especially considering the female lead looks to be pretty underage. (I wouldn't be surprised if these scenes were trimmed when the movie went to video since times are a little less permissive than they used to be). The characters are pretty good, although the Skipper Todd character doesn't really seem to be too much of a genius when he dumb says things like, "But wasn't Herman Melville a fag?", and Robert Lyon doesn't really have the charisma to play a young Charlie Manson type. Still it's nice to see a movie that despite its extreme subject matter honestly portrays the period, and it wasn't all that idealized peace and love crap some aging Baby Boomers would have you believe.
    icyfloes.iceway

    Belinda J.Montgomery not nude as she should be.

    In the theatrical release of this film Belinda J.Montgomery did full frontal nudity but it is missing from the video version. Don't watch it if you wanted to see it for that reason. Also Richard Thomas(John-Boy of the Waltons) did a full frontal nude scene that is still in the video version but toned down from the theatrical version.
    10sleazerama

    Brilliant...

    Based loosely on real life killer, Charles Schmidt (sp?), the Pied Piper of Tucson, 'The Todd Killings' is a marvelous, underrated gem.

    There is much to love about this movie. The cast are terrific. Most notable are the lead performances; Robert F. Lyons is truly outstanding, infusing his character with a giddy mix of indifference and charm. He manages to seduce the girls, impress the guys and squirm his way through a police interrogation with absolute ease.

    Praise must go to the gorgeous Belinda Montgomery (Doogie Howser's mom). She looks thoroughly enticing and gives a soft, natural performance that looks like it was bathed in 70's sunshine.

    Adding to the pleasure is the location shooting, making full use of what appears to be a small, sleepy Northern California town. One notable highlight being Skipper and Billy at a Jack in the Box restaurant - complete with an old-school JB clown logo and the menu displaying stupidly low prices (35 cents for a hamburger).

    But this is no mere exploitation flick. The filmmakers have taken care with every detail and it shows. The relationship between Skipper and his Mom is perfectly addressed while she nobly attempts to defend him in the face of an angry mother accusing Skipper of hiding information on her daughter's whereabouts. Their two worlds are miles apart.

    There is much to go on about here, but in the end, I simply can't recommend this film highly enough. This is the real deal.
    8boblipton

    Breakdown

    Robert F. Lyons is a young man living in a suburban town in California. He leads an aimles life, supported by his mother, Barbara Bel Geddes. He's very popular with the boys and girls his own age, a leader, dominating the boys, sleeping with all the girls. Everyone calls him "Skipper." But girls have been disappearing, because he's been killing them.

    It's based on the case of Charles Schmid of Tucson, and it's a depressing film, full of anomie and anxiety over the Viet Nam War, with the older woman listening to lectures about MOBY DICK. There's an air of the breakdown of society. It's a thoroughly unpleasant movie, which looks deliberate to me Lyons is excellent as the distant and sociopathic lead. With With Richard Thomas, Holly Near, James Broderick, Fay Spain, Gloria Grahame, and Edward Asner.
    4moonspinner55

    Jaded modern teenagers and their killer mentor

    Fictionalized portrait of real-life sociopath and killer Charles Schmid from Arizona (called Skipper Todd here, nicknamed "The Pied Piper of Tucson"), a 23-year-old dropout from reality who easily enchanted all the bored, feckless teenagers hanging out at the local high school and community swimming pool. Robert F. Lyons is quite persuasive as Todd, a seductive charmer who lives off his mother (Barbara Bel Geddes), who enables his freeloader lifestyle. Todd enjoys playing big brother and lover to the misfit kids in his stifling suburb (it feeds his ego) and, after killing a girl because he "had nothing else to do," he has no trouble getting a few of the teens to help cover up his crime. Richard Thomas is somewhat miscast as a hitchhiker Lyons takes under his wing (Thomas is intrinsically too bright to play this antisocial rube), but the supporting cast is excellent, particularly Bel Geddes, Gloria Grahame as Thomas' mother, Belinda Montgomery, Edward Asner, James Broderick, Holly Near and Michael Conrad. It's a technically assured picture, but one which is ultimately uneasy as a dramatic entertainment. Was it intended as a warning film? Rather, it's an exercise in glamorously dangerous narcissism: the disaffected youth too cool for society. ** from ****

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    • Anecdotes
      Inspired by real-life 1965 murders orchestrated by Charles Howard Schmid, Jr. (1942-1975), the so-called "Pied Piper of Tucson," a charismatic young Southern Arizona homicidal maniac whose crimes (involving teen followers and victims) roughly paralleled those later perpetrated by teen guru/killer Charles Manson. Schmid was convicted of two counts of first degree murder and one count of second degree murder. On 20 March 1975 he was stabbed 47 times by two fellow inmates at the Arizona State Prison and died of his injuries on 30 March 1975.
    • Gaffes
      As with most film depictions of murder by manual strangulation, it takes a lot longer to accomplish than is shown in this picture.
    • Citations

      Police Officer: Do you have relations with men?

      Skipper: I try not to. But sometimes there's a guy who's really sweet... it's so easy. We're both men... we both know where it's at. Personally, you're not giving anything away.

      Police Officer: What's your feeling's towards girls?

      Skipper: I can sleep with them once because it degrades them. It makes them dirty. The worst thing about it is... you meet a chick who isn't... bad. You can't screw her because you don't want to make her "dirty".

    • Crédits fous
      [prologue] The story you are about to see is a fictionalized dramatization of actual case histories. The names and certain characterizations and incidents have been changed to protect the innocent...and, in some cases, to protect the guilty.
    • Connexions
      References Le Petit César (1931)

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    • Date de sortie
      • novembre 1971 (Royaume-Uni)
    • Pays d’origine
      • États-Unis
    • Langue
      • Anglais
    • Aussi connu sous le nom de
      • Skipper
    • Lieux de tournage
      • Samuel Goldwyn Studios - 7200 Santa Monica Boulevard, West Hollywood, Californie, États-Unis(Studio)
    • Société de production
      • National General Production Inc.
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      • 1h 33min(93 min)
    • Rapport de forme
      • 2.35 : 1

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